[Pharmboy]

Hey...we're all cousins.

[Pharmboy]

I don't think ACORN did this census ping...

[Adder]

like disease or climate change induced by ....

the invention of fire, of course.

[ASA Vet]

Thanks for a very rare science thread.
It'll get moved to general chat to die shortly.

[blueplum]

wow! that’s not a lot of people!

[dog breath]

If you look at early human tools our more distant ancestors had very little with which to survive with, so their numbers should of been low. It is hard to hunt and fend off predators with a sharp hand held rock. The bottleneck in human ancestry seems to indicate that we almost became extinct at one time.

[Psalm 73]

"...the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes..."
They just state that so matter-of-factly one could easily confuse that theory for proven scientific fact.

"...modern humans numbered as few as 10,000 at some time in the last 100,000 years. The critically low number suggested that some catastrophe, like ...climate change.... had brought humans close to the brink of extinction.
Hmmm, standard Global Warming alarmist boiler-plate - don't journalists think for themselves anymore?

[Condor51]

..... the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes had not yet produced any big payoff.

Ah! A Financial Report on the NY Times.
How nice of them to make it public.

[buffyt]

Hi, cuz!

And this shows me that 130 years of keeping records of earth temperatures does not make a complete record. Would have to go back millions of years, with minute detail.

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

ping

[Diamond]

"...the strategy of investing in larger brains than those of their fellow apes had not yet produced any big payoff...."

"The strategy"? "Investing"?

Well, which is it? Is variation directed or is it undirected, or is the above just another 'unfortunate' and inconsistent lapse into teleological double-talk? Call me a monkey's uncle, but If new variation arising from recombination and mutation is accidental and adaptively random in direction then I should like to know exactly what the genetic mechanism is that has the foresight to strategically direct mutations to invest in novel adaptive requirements.

Cordially,

[martin_fierro]

They put the number at 18,500 people, but this refers only to breeding individuals, the “effective” population.

"Ineffective Population" PING

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[aruanan]

Geneticists have long known that the ancestors of modern humans numbered as few as 10,000 at some time in the last 100,000 years.

Well, they had to have numbered a lot lower than that at some point.

[thefactor]

It makes sense that the advent of farming led to a population boom.

More free time, the ability to stay in one place, the ability to live through an injury that might have otherwise doomed you had you needed to migrate, etc...

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Pharmboy!

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[RegulatorCountry]

They put the number at 18,500 people, but this refers only to breeding individuals, the “effective” population

Shockingly heteronormative.