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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; presently no screen name

Yah I blame presently no screen name lol

~We are trying to find the best name for him...your input?


1,181 posted on 03/18/2010 6:49:51 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: JustPiper

Paulie....I like it!


1,182 posted on 03/18/2010 6:52:52 PM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Come on now Stephen, we HAVE to believe in the POWER of the people, this thing may pass but it could be tied up forever in lawsuits from the States, etc.

GB stressed today we have

FAITH

HOPE

CHARITY


1,183 posted on 03/18/2010 6:55:56 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

This is the very issue they were going over at FNC, we need to investigate all the “Buyoffs” involved, please post any you find here?


1,184 posted on 03/18/2010 6:57:06 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: JustPiper; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I can’t even come up with a name for myself! JustPiper - you found him, so you name him w/1CM’s approval. He makes me smile and so needed now.


1,185 posted on 03/18/2010 7:04:15 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JustPiper

Gunna have to think about that one...;0)


1,186 posted on 03/18/2010 7:04:37 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: JustPiper

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2474120/posts

(NRO: Tweet) Betsey Markey to change from “No” to “Yes.”


1,187 posted on 03/18/2010 7:06:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: stephenjohnbanker

1,188 posted on 03/18/2010 7:21:33 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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ACTION ALERT!!!

AMERICANS ARE MOBILIZING FAST & FURIOUS

Broad TEA Party Coalition Aligns To “Kill The Bill”

WASHINGTON, DC (March 18, 2010) -

With the critical nature of a looming Congressional decision, a broad coalition of Tea Party organizations and leadership is launching the final push before a possible vote by the House. These events are being coordinated across the US and are aimed at communicating the frustration
of the people while demanding the termination of this health bill legislation.
While the DNC and the administration continue to obfuscate and confuse,this coalition is focused on getting activists involved prior to Pelosi’s maneuvering.

The following actions are planned for the next 72 hours:

* Calling campaigns to the House by constituents to vote no on the bill

* “Talk to Washington” healthcare town halls in MS, PA & other states

* Code Red rally in Washington, DC at 12 noon on Saturday at Upper Senate Park

* Nationwide “Virtual Vigil” on BlogTalk radio sponsored by DoctorsandPatients.org

* Candlelight vigil around the Capitol on Saturday night

* Prayer Vigils and Prayer Meetings

Featured speakers at the Washington, D.C. Rally on Saturday will include:

Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann (MN)
Congressman Tom Price (GA)
Congressman Joe Wilson (SC)
Congressman Phil Gingrey (GA)
Actor & Conservative Jon Voight

Dr. Milton Wolf, Barack Obama’s second
cousin who opposes Obamacare

Colin Hanna, Let Freedom Ring

Jim Martin, 60 Plus

Phil Kerpen, Americans for Prosperity

Tim Phillips, Americans for Prosperity

Andrew Langer, Institute for Liberty

Kathryn Serkes, Doctor Patient Medical Association

Mark Skoda, Memphis Tea Party

Amy Kremer, Tea Party Express

Jennifer Hulsey, American Grassroots Coalition

FreedomWorks Representative

Ben Cunningham, Founder of the
Tennessee Tax Revolt

Darla Dawald, Grassfire Nation / Resistnet.com

Listen to the Grassfire Resistnet Update with Steve Elliott and Darla Dawald at http://www.resistnet.com front page top!

To organize or share rides and find buses please go here
and post your groups info:
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/transportation-to-washington

To see the coalition groups go here and see more info as it’s available:
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/saturday-dc-protest

Freedom is never free! Stand with Me and Make our
Voices Heard! KILL the BILL!!

Darla Dawald, ResistNet National Director

P.S. I will be at arriving in DC Fri. 600pm-Monday at 1200pm.


1,189 posted on 03/18/2010 8:37:02 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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1,190 posted on 03/18/2010 8:40:36 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All
DEALS ON THE HC BILL

Coburn: GOP on High Alert for Sweetheart Deals in Health Bill---Republicans have a message for Democrats considering switching to "yes" on health care reform: We'll be watching you

Obama has asked Reid to strike provisions requested by senators from at least five other states
(Snippets)
“Legislators need pork to make things happen,” Julian Zelizer, a Princeton University professor of history and public affairs, wrote in POLITICO Wednesday. “It is unrealistic to expect that legislative leaders won’t use one of the few tools at their disposal to get things done.”
$1.1 billion in extra Medicaid funding to Massachusetts and Vermont
John Kerry (D-Mass.) said he, too, was working with the president “to make sure Massachusetts’s past investment to expand health coverage to low-income individuals is recognized in health reform.”
$100 million hospital grant program requested by Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), who has acknowledged that the University of Connecticut would qualify for the money.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) on behalf of residents of Libby, Mont.

President Obama's pitch: Fate of presidency on the line

President Obama wants side deals out of bill

Reid to cut special deals from health bill

Sen. Ben Nelson's hardly the only lawmaker extracting sweetheart deals out of the health care reform bill.
"Votes have been bought," Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., said
-- Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., won between $100 million and $300 million in additional federal aid for her state's Medicaid population. The deal, secured before she cast her critical vote in favor of bringing the health bill to the floor, was immediately dubbed the "Louisiana Purchase," though the actual Louisiana Purchase was considerably cheaper.
-- Vermont and Massachusetts got $1.2 billion in Medicaid money -- a change that was described as a correction to the current system which exempts those two states because they have robust health care systems. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders also boasted Saturday that he requested and won an investment worth between $10 and $14 billion for community health centers.
-- Western states secured higher federal reimbursement rates for doctors and hospitals that serve Medicare patients. The provision covers the low-population "frontier" states and applies to Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah and Wyoming -- the latter two states are both represented by two Republicans, but ended up as beneficiaries anyway since they qualify. The legislative language defines frontier states as states where at least 50 percent of the counties have fewer than six people per square mile. Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, defended the "special deal," telling "Fox News Sunday" that those five states were getting an increase in reimbursements because they get the lowest amount in the country. "That doesn't offend me at all," he said. "It's in fact, fair."
-- Florida, New York and Pennsylvania -- where five of six senators are Democrats -- will have their seniors' Medicare Advantage benefits protected, even as the program sees massive cuts elsewhere.
-- Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., reportedly secured expanded Medicare coverage for victims of asbestos exposure in a mine in Libby, Mont.
-- Connecticut is receiving $100 million for a "health care facility" affiliated with an academic health center at a university that contains the state's only "public academic medical and dental school."
-- Nebraska's Nelson won permanent federal aid for his state's expanded Medicaid population, a benefit worth up to $100 million over 10 years. Other states get the federal aid for three years, but Nebraska's benefit is indefinite. His state also got an exemption for nonprofit insurance companies from a health insurance company tax. Many believe this was targeted at Mutual of Omaha, but senior Democratic aides would not confirm that.
Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman didn't extract any payoffs for Connecticut. Rather, he succeeded in stripping the government-run insurance plan from the Senate health bill, along with a proposed expansion of Medicare that he recently said he opposes.

The Price Is Right? Payoffs for Senators Typical in Health Care Bill

No special Nevada deal for Reid in health bill

Healthcare bill is 'Louisiana Sellout Search

Cornhusker deal in healthcare bill Search

Bill Nelson’s agreement to shield 800,000 Florida seniors from Medicare Advantage cuts (Search)

1,191 posted on 03/18/2010 10:27:20 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: azishot

Yay! After Paul Ryan -g-


1,192 posted on 03/18/2010 10:30:46 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: azishot

Paulie the Mascot for the States that say Say "No" To Health Care Reform


1,193 posted on 03/18/2010 10:33:19 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Looks like a 5-8 million person march on D.C. by people armed with sleeping bags, water and food are going to be necessary to save our country.

Care to join us? ;-)

1,194 posted on 03/18/2010 10:35:46 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We have to pass the bill first so you can find out what's in it." - Nancy Pelosi, March 2010)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; presently no screen name

He has been named Paulie for Ryan -g- unless you come up with stupendous, then I have to consult my pardner & we will have to file name change with the BO court :)


1,195 posted on 03/18/2010 10:37:17 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: presently no screen name

last I heard was 3 changed to YES, one to No?


1,196 posted on 03/18/2010 10:38:15 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: nutmeg

It’s gonna be huge, been posting all night here all the joiners I’m getting via email


1,197 posted on 03/18/2010 10:40:25 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: JustPiper

Paulie is the PERFECT name! I hope he brings us some good luck.

I so wish I was able to get to D.C. for the protest this weekend. Family obligations prevent that from happening. If we still lived in Virginia I would most definitely be there. My spirit will be with those who can go!

This madness has GOT TO END!!


1,198 posted on 03/18/2010 10:40:29 PM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: JustPiper

No name change - don’t want “our Paulie” anywhere near that con man! Paulie it is! I like it. Now does Paulie have a BC? ;) Place of birth: FreeRepublic - how cool is that!


1,199 posted on 03/18/2010 10:45:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JustPiper

I can’t say enough what a “Paulie Job” you are doing on this thread! You are an amazing Freeper. I vote you #1!


1,200 posted on 03/18/2010 10:52:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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