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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

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REPEAL THE EFFING BILL!!!
NOW!!!

2,601 posted on 03/23/2010 8:28:03 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: All

The bastards are all lining up to smile pretty for the cameras. I can’t stand it!


2,602 posted on 03/23/2010 8:29:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
THANKS TONS FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN SUCH REGARDS.

GOD'S BEST TO YOU AND YOURS.

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May God have mercy on all who Love Him in looming traumas.

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1996 - May 11 Journalist Joan Veon interviews David C. Korten, author of When Corporations Rule the World (1995) and former Ford Foundation project specialist in Manila. In this interview, Korten claims that: "the World Trade Organization is creating a world government in which one organization which is totally unelected, wholly secretive....with the power to virtually override any local or national laws if those in any way inconvenience global corporations....It was a terrible shock (to those of us who supported Bill Clinton) when Clinton came in and GATT and NAFTA became the centerpieces of his policy....And in a sense, there was almost a seamless transition from President Bush to President Clinton in that regard....Our democracy has been rendered meaningless by big money. The truth is there are politicians (who) are owned lock, stock and barrel by the big money interests....Our elections create, to some extent, a facade of choice."

Below from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81

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2,603 posted on 03/23/2010 8:30:04 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: newfreep

Obamacare To Be Enforced By Armed Thugs
Ron Paul: “If it was a good program and everybody liked it, you wouldn’t need 16,500 thugs coming with their guns and putting you in jail if you didn’t follow all the rules”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamacare-to-be-enforced-by-armed-thugs.html

STEALING THE NEXT ELECTION
From amnesty to universal registration,
Obama’s strategy for maintaining power

With tens of millions of Americas furious at Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi for unconstitutionally forcing socialized medicine down their throats, and with congressional Democrats in danger of massive electoral losses this November, one giant question looms large for Team Obama: How to stay in power despite plummeting voter support?

http://superstore.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=108&ref1=email&ref2=0323WB


2,604 posted on 03/23/2010 8:36:36 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: bitt

welcome my friend


2,605 posted on 03/23/2010 8:37:46 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I got the list of 34 Dems vote against, which is what I wanted

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/88211-house-roll-call-on-healthcare-bill-34-dems-vote-against


2,606 posted on 03/23/2010 8:42:01 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

May he Bless you too Arthur, this has all caught up to me


2,607 posted on 03/23/2010 8:42:37 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine

Ayn Rand says it better than anyone

http://fawstin.blogspot.com/

Pat Toomey Responds to Healthcare Vote

http://midnightbluesays.com/2010/03/pat-toomey-responds-to-healthcare-vote.html


2,608 posted on 03/23/2010 8:45:28 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine

I figured it was LaRaza all along


2,609 posted on 03/23/2010 8:48:28 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine

to move forward in a comprehensive way = socialist takeover


2,610 posted on 03/23/2010 8:49:44 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the heads up, was going to watch


2,611 posted on 03/23/2010 8:50:35 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March

~ping


2,612 posted on 03/23/2010 8:51:28 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

“comprehensive”

Any bill with this word in it is a fraud.


2,613 posted on 03/23/2010 8:59:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper

If EVER a bunch of criminals’ faces should be on a wanted poster...


2,614 posted on 03/23/2010 9:03:55 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine; azishot; blackie; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; GlennBeck08; ...
BEWARE of Acorn offshoots
ACCE
NY Communities for change
New England united for justice

Come NOVEMBER

Ronald Regan on Self Government

I've got the power(remix)

Video:Glenn Beck: We’re gonna do some old fashioned ass kicking come November

Health Care Reform has Passed. Now let’s FIGHT!

VITAL PELOSI LOSES IN NOVEMBER--PUT THE WORD OUT!!!

In an exclusive interview, the candidate in Florida's 22nd Congressional District tells PJM that "you cannot repeal the health care bill as long as Nancy Pelosi is in charge of Congress."

A New Fight: Lt. Col. Allen West Pursues a House Seat

Health care aftermath: Nathan Deal resigns, forces gather for counteroffensive

Florida Senate: Rubio 45%, Meek 25%, Crist 22%

Health Care: The Next Move Is Yours, Republicans – Don’t Blow It

2,615 posted on 03/23/2010 9:04:13 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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March 21, 2010 Dependence Day

Happy Dependence Day! [Mark Steyn]

Why Did You Vote for Socialism?

The "change we can believe in" from President Obama and the Democrats has resulted in a health care bill that is virtually unbelievable. Welcome to the divided states of America.

The Biggest Abuse of Power and Arrogance Washington Has Ever Seen

For the Left, Politics is War

How to find out who voted for the health care bill

Still Got That Old-Time “Separate But Equal” Spirit Segregation, ethnic cleansing, and double standards

CRACKING ACORN

High-rolling fundraiser Hassan Nemazee personally spoke to Vice President Joe Biden about an ambassadorship, The Daily Beast has learned. Then the FBI busted him for running a Ponzi scheme. Lloyd Grove on the man behind the fraud.

The Dems' Corrupt Money Man

2,616 posted on 03/23/2010 9:12:53 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: STARWISE; thouworm; All


Today Collectivized Health Care – Tomorrow Amnesty For Illegal Aliens – What Will That Bring Next November?

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner drew sharp criticism from Democrats and Republicans alike Wednesday for his role in the $180-billion-plus taxpayer bailout of insurance giant American International Group, with some challenging his claim that he played no role in withholding information about AIG deals with business partners

Geithner Denies Role in AIG Bailout Secrecy

Roe v. Pelosi

The vote 219 to 212 to bring the free market society of America under socialist rule revealed much about the downfall of the American dream: that the Democratic Party should be renamed the Socialist Democratic Party

Stalinism from America’s Hat: Ann Coulter Threatened with Arrest by College Administrator for Upcoming Speech in Canada

ACORN to Shut Down in Wake of Scandal

ACORN Closing in Wake of Scandal

2,617 posted on 03/23/2010 9:22:57 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper; kristinn; jimrob

Jim, Kristinn,

I believe the troops would profit greatly . . . at least be somewhat comforted and possibly encouraged by a thread started by you two in response to the latest horrific tragedy by the Congresstraitors.

We need to hear from our fearless leader(s).

I don’t know that it even matters enormously what you say—though some hint at NOW THEREFORE WHAT would be nice.

We just need to hear from you after this horror.


2,618 posted on 03/23/2010 9:34:07 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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Tens of Thousands Protest ObamaCare in D.C.

3/20/10 video: Healthcare bill protest in Washington DC. Crowd singing the national anthem

Regarding the socialist health care bill passed … there are ups and downs in every situation. Don’t focus on the vote or the flawed/corrupted process used to obtain this result.

Utah lawmakers speak out against health care reform bill

I heard this on FNC, a lawyer explaining that if we do not have health insurance the IRS can' garnish EVERYTHING to pay it! They will be sending out a 1099, they get the jobs, we get INTRUSION! THE IRS PEOPLE!

Ron Paul: IRS Will Steal More Money To Fund Health Care

16,500 more IRS agents needed to enforce Obamacare

Obamacare Bill: A Declaration of War

Yes, Obamacare Is Romneycare

2,619 posted on 03/23/2010 9:41:09 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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Top 5 Problems With the Health Care Plan

Regarding the socialist health care bill passed yesterday… there are ups and downs in every situation. Don’t focus on the vote or the flawed/corrupted process used to obtain this result.

Here we are in crunch time and it occurred to me: Why hasn’t the first principle of medical care itself – ”First, do no harm“ – not been the rallying cry of conservative, common sense opposition to federal takeover of health care? Not just rallying cry, but conservatives’ rhetorical cudgel-of-choice to wield against proponents of this massive (395,096-word) and massively unpopular piece of socialistic legislation.

First, Do No Harm…. Second, Do No Harm…. Third, Do No Harm….

My Health Care Manifesto

Gohmert: Health care bill could bankrupt U.S.

2,620 posted on 03/23/2010 9:55:26 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper
I heard this on FNC, a lawyer explaining that if we do not have health insurance the IRS can' garnish EVERYTHING to pay it!

It's not just if we don't have obamacare. It's that we have o'care that COMPLIES with what THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE! They are going to tell us what is and isn't acceptable to them.

Thank you, Nanny State.

2,621 posted on 03/23/2010 10:02:24 AM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: Red Steel; All


USMC Tea Partiers?

Health Care Reform Passes House; Mass. to Get $2.5 Billion

Union of American Socialist Republics - Day 1

60+ Lawmakers 7 States Tell Obama; if you want on 2012 ballot, RELEASE THE RECORDS!

Glenn Beck is confronted over Birther claims

2,622 posted on 03/23/2010 10:05:05 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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GMA

Obama Signs Health Care Bill Today as GOP Challenges Constitutionality

Several States Are Challenging the Mandate Requiring Americans to Have Health Insurance
(12 States File Lawsuits Against Mandatory Insurance...)

With VIDEO Minn. Gov. Tim Pawlenty discusses his party’s fight over bill’s legality.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/HealthCare/obama-sign-health-care-bill-law-republicans-challenge/story?id=10176898

Tea partiers vow revenge over health overhaul

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9EKEMJO3&show_article=1


2,623 posted on 03/23/2010 10:29:35 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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2,624 posted on 03/23/2010 10:52:01 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper; caww; combat_boots; TigersEye

FLASH ....!

Stacy in Atlanta just informed Rush on the air that there are buried elements of 0-care that are now triggering a complete meltdown of healthcare.

The insurance companies need 45% to cover administrative/etc. 0-care shortens it to 15%. Health insurance companies will be insolvent in two years. It will not be felt by consumers until January, but the affects are causing shockwaves in an already low-profit industry.

I believe this will trigger immediate meldown. Stocks are going to erode — execs are seeking new imployment already. And this will in turn shatter the current healthcare industry.


2,625 posted on 03/23/2010 10:54:55 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: MestaMachine; azishot; stephenjohnbanker

Please note flash in post 2625 if you are an investor. This is going to move fast!


2,626 posted on 03/23/2010 10:56:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

http://cenlamar.com/2010/02/13/billy-tauzins-surprise-resignation/


2,627 posted on 03/23/2010 10:58:45 AM PDT by mo
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Hitler’s Enabling Act

On March 23, 1933, the newly elected members of the German Parliament (the Reichstag) met in the Kroll Opera House in Berlin to consider passing Hitler’s Enabling Act. It was officially called the ‘Law for Removing the Distress of the People and the Reich.’ If passed, it would effectively mean the end of democracy in Germany and establish the legal dictatorship of Adolf Hitler.

The ‘distress’ had been secretly caused by the Nazis themselves in order to create a crisis atmosphere that would make the law seem necessary to restore order. On February 27, 1933, they had burned the Reichstag building, seat of the German government, causing panic and outrage. The Nazis successfully blamed the fire on the Communists and claimed it marked the beginning of a widespread uprising.

On the day of the vote, Nazi storm troopers gathered in a show of force around the opera house chanting, “Full powers - or else! We want the bill - or fire and murder!!” They also stood inside in the hallways, and even lined the aisles where the vote would take place, glaring menacingly at anyone who might oppose Hitler’s will.

Just before the vote, Hitler made a speech to the Reichstag in which he pledged to use restraint.

“The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures...The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is in itself a limited one.” - Hitler told the Reichstag.

He also promised an end to unemployment and pledged to promote peace with France, Great Britain and the Soviet Union. But in order to do all this, Hitler said, he first needed the Enabling Act.

A two thirds majority was needed, since the law would actually alter the German constitution. Hitler needed 31 non-Nazi votes to pass it. He got those votes from the Center Party after making a false promise to restore some basic rights already taken away by decree.

However, one man arose amid the overwhelming might. Otto Wells, leader of the Social Democrats stood up and spoke quietly to Hitler.

“We German Social Democrats pledge ourselves solemnly in this historic hour to the principles of humanity and justice, of freedom and socialism. No enabling act can give you power to destroy ideas which are eternal and indestructible.”

This enraged Hitler and he jumped up to respond.

“You are no longer needed! - The star of Germany will rise and yours will sink! Your death knell has sounded!”

The vote was taken - 441 for, only 84, the Social Democrats, against. The Nazis leapt to their feet clapping, stamping and shouting, then broke into the Nazi anthem, the Hörst Wessel song.

They achieved what Hitler had wanted for years - to tear down the German Democratic Republic legally and end democracy, thus paving the way for a complete Nazi takeover of Germany.

From this day on, the Reichstag would be just a sounding board, a cheering section for Hitler’s pronouncements.

Copyright © 1996 The History Place™ All Rights Reserved

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/enabling.htm


2,628 posted on 03/23/2010 11:01:42 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

Don’t blow this great opportunity!


2,629 posted on 03/23/2010 11:04:25 AM PDT by blackie
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To: mo

PhRMA President and CEO Billy Tauzin, thank you, FRiend.

Sad FRegards ....


2,630 posted on 03/23/2010 11:07:40 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: mo; JustPiper; TigersEye

[Thank you, mo]

One Grand Deal Too Many Costs (pharma) Lobbyist (Billy Tauzin) His Job
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450632/posts

Mr. Tauzin, 66, will retreat, to contemplate the apparent collapse of the grandest in a career of fearless deals — a pact to trade the drug industry’s political support for favorable terms under President Obama’s proposed health care overhaul.

Mr. Tauzin is leaving his $2 million-a-year job as the top lobbyist for the drug industry amid complaints from drug makers that he bargained away their profits too cheaply, spent too much in his $150 million advertising campaign to sell the overhaul and miscalculated in his assessment that the passage of the legislation was all but inevitable. [snip]


2,631 posted on 03/23/2010 11:12:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

IMHO, it’s all part of their plan. Crush the insurance companies so the gov’t HAS TO institute the public option which is what they wanted all along.

Bastards, all of them!!


2,632 posted on 03/23/2010 11:30:55 AM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I shorted 10 stocks in 06.. Banks, developers, and mtg. companies. Now retired ;-)


2,633 posted on 03/23/2010 11:40:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

But WHAT does it do for US?


2,634 posted on 03/23/2010 11:47:22 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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VIDEOS

We The People

The Day After: Liberal Caucus Leader Set to Introduce New Public Option Bill

The Judge Rules on Bart Stupak's Executive Order!

Congressman Ryan Responds to Misguided Attacks on Roadmap

C-SPAN: List of bribes, kickbacks and hidden costs just read on House floor

America's Comeback--Its time to fight back from the states.

RepubliCANGovernor's Alliance

Al Sharpton Claims American Public Voted for Socialism When Electing Obama

CNN Video: Louisiana Gov. Health Care Bill "Bad for Our Country"

2,635 posted on 03/23/2010 12:08:58 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

2,636 posted on 03/23/2010 2:30:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: JustPiper; All

http://www.aolnews.com/healthcare/article/state-by-state-whos-looking-to-counter-health-reform/19410761

State by State: Who’s Looking to Counter Health Reform?
Byron Tau

Special to AOL News (March 23) — Across the country, activist groups, legislators and state officials are considering an array of legal maneuvers designed to prevent all or part of the national health care reform effort from coming into law within their borders.

At least a dozen state attorneys general have vowed court challenges, and more than three dozen states are considering health care reform nullification bills. The stage is even set for several states to try to amend their constitutions to prevent the reforms from applying within their borders.

ALABAMA

Legal Challenges: Alabama will join Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington in a joint legal challenge.
Star Crusader: Attorney General Troy King is leading the anti-health care reform crusade at the state level.
Grounds: King argued that the bill tramples “state sovereignty” and illegally forces people to acquire insurance.
Status: King, who also made waves this week by picking a high-profile fight with the Alabama governor over the state gambling task force, will be in Washington this week to discuss Alabama’s potential response. He has also occasionally been mentioned as a candidate for higher office.

ARIZONA

Legal Challenges: Arizona has proposed a constitutional amendment.
Star Crusader: Arizona state officials have been rather silent on health care reform, but one high-profile figure is Phoenix orthopedic surgeon Dr. Eric Novack, who is currently the chairman of the advocacy group Arizonans for Health Care Freedom. Novack also reportedly helped Arizona lawmakers draft the proposed amendment.
Grounds: Arizona lawmaker Nancy Barto, who sponsored the measure, says that the amendment will “protect patients’ fundamental rights.”
Status: Last summer, the Arizona legislature passed the “Health Care Freedom Act,” a bill that refers a constitutional amendment to Arizona voters. The amendment prevents citizens from being forced to purchase health care and guarantees the right to purchase private coverage. It will appear on the November ballot. A similar referendum on mandatory health care narrowly failed in 2008.

COLORADO

Legal Challenges: Colorado has an anti-health care reform ballot measure, and is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: On the legal front, Attorney General John Suthers announced that Colorado will join with Florida in filing suit. On the grassroots level, Jon Caldara, president of the libertarian-leaning Independence Institute, is pushing hard for an anti-health care reform ballot initiative.
Grounds: “The Constitution gives Congress the enumerated powers to regulate those engaged in interstate commerce,” Suthers said in an interview. “It does not give the Congress the power to compel a citizen, who would otherwise choose to be inactive in the marketplace, to purchase a product or service and thereby become subject to congressional regulation.”
Status: The secretary of state’s office has already granted approval for the ballot initiative supporters to begin collecting signatures. The initiative would direct the state not to enforce the federal law. And Suthers remains committed that Colorado will join the interstate lawsuit.

FLORIDA

Legal Challenges: Florida is leading the charge for a federal lawsuit in coalition with other states, and proposed state legislation and proposed constitutional amendment.
Star Crusader: Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, who is running as a Republican for governor, is leading a broad coalition of states in a joint lawsuit against the health care bill.
Grounds: McCollum will focus specifically on the requirement that residents purchase insurance or face fines.
Status: McCollum has already laid the groundwork for his legal challenge, hiring a Washington lawyer to argue the case. Further, just hours after Congress passed the bill, the Florida legislature began considering two measures. The first was a bill that simply urged McCollum to sue; the second was a proposed constitutional amendment saying that no Florida resident could be forced into the national health care scheme. The amendment will need to pass the legislature, and then be approved by voters.

MICHIGAN

Legal Challenges: Michigan is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox, who is running for governor as a Republican, has been a vocal opponent of reform.
Grounds: According to a statement by Cox, “Congress’ attempt to force Michigan families to buy health insurance — or else — raises serious constitutional concerns.”
Status: Michigan will join the interstate lawsuit.

NEBRASKA

Legal Challenges: Nebraska is joining the interstate federal lawsuit
Star Crusader: Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., who caused controversy nationwide by trading his vote for $45 million in extra Medicaid funding for Nebraska, plans to vote “no” on the Senate fixes, but it is state Attorney General Jon Bruning who is leading the legal fight.
Grounds: ‘’It tramples on individual liberty and dumps on the states the burden of an unfunded mandate that taxpayers cannot afford,’’ Bruning said.
Status: Gov. Dave Heineman, a Republican, has expressed support for the lawsuit, and Nebraska will join the Florida-led lawsuit rather than filing its own suit.

NORTH DAKOTA

Legal Challenges: North Dakota is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem, who is not running for higher office but is seeking re-election, is considering the proposal.
Grounds: According to the AP, Stenehjem is concerned about the cost of the Medicare expansion and the mandatory insurance provisions.
Status: According to Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, North Dakota will be part of the Florida suit.

OHIO

Legal Challenge: Ohio has a citizen-initiated constitutional amendment.
Star Crusader: No singular figure in Ohio has emerged to lead the challenge, but the Cincinnati 9/12 Project is a Tea Party-affiliated group that is pushing the amendment and collecting signatures to put the measure to a vote.
Grounds: According to a statement put out by the group, “... the federal government is trampling on the direct constitutional authority and responsibility of state legislatures. This constitutional amendment will do what our leaders in the Statehouse have failed to do — protect Ohioans from federal mandates on personal behavior.”
Status: The group needs to collect approximately 400,000 signatures by June 30 to have its amendment considered. The amendment protects the rights of Ohioans to opt out of the federal health care reform.

PENNSYLVANIA

Legal Challenges: Pennsylvania is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Pennsylvania’s decision to join the Florida-led lawsuit is wrapped up in gubernatorial politics. State attorney general Tom Corbett is running for governor as a Republican. Monday he announced Pennsylvania’s participation in the suit. Democratic incumbent Ed Rendell called the suit “political grandstanding.”
Grounds: The effort will focus on the mandatory insurance requirement.
Status: As of Monday, Corbett’s office had confirmed to the AP that Pennsylvania still planned to participate in the interstate lawsuit led by Florida.

SOUTH CAROLINA

Legal Challenges: South Carolina is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: GOP Attorney General Henry McMaster has emerged as a staunch opponent to health care reform. He is also running for governor in South Carolina. In a campaign e-mail, he promised to fight for South Carolina’s “way of life.”
Grounds: In the same campaign e-mail, McMaster argued, “The health care legislation Congress passed last night is an assault against the Constitution of the United States.”
Status: McMaster has firmly stated that South Carolina will join the interstate-led lawsuit.

SOUTH DAKOTA

Legal Challenges: South Dakota is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Gov. Mike Round and Attorney General Marty Jackley, both Republicans, are the high-profile opponents of the reform effort.
Grounds: “Medicaid is the train that’s driving the discussion,” Jackley told the Associated Press.
Status: Florida Attorney General Bill McCollumn said Monday night that South Dakota had agreed join the interstate lawsuit..

TEXAS

Legal Challenges: Texas is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Both Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Attorney General Greg Abbott have been outspoken opponents of health care reform.
Grounds: Abbott laid out the Texas case in a statement Sunday: “’To protect all Texans’ constitutional rights, preserve the constitutional framework intended by our nation’s founders, and defend our state from further infringement by the federal government, the state of Texas and other states will legally challenge the federal health care legislation.”
Status: In a Facebook status update, Abbott wrote, “We plan to file the moment Obama signs the bill.” The Texas Tribune is reporting that Abbott and other state attorneys general had agreed to move forward with a single lawsuit.

UTAH

Legal Challenges: Utah plans state-level legislation, and is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Not a single member of the bipartisan Utah House delegate voted for the health care reform bill, but Gov. Gary Herbert and Attorney General Mark Shurtleff have emerged as the loyal opposition on the state level.
Grounds: According to the Salt Lake Tribune, Herbert and Shurtleff believe that they have increased standing to sue because Herbert signed legislation banning the individual mandate within Utah. Now federal law and Utah law directly contradict one another.
Status: According to Shurtleff, the Florida-led lawsuit is “ready to roll” and Utah will be a part of it.

VIRGINIA

Legal Challenges: Virginia plans an independent federal lawsuit, plus pending legislation.
Star Crusader: Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli has taken the lead.
Grounds: According to Cuccinelli, the federal government lacks the ability to force people to purchase insurance. Virginia’s legal challenge will revolve around the Commerce Clause. “If a person decides not to buy health insurance, that person by definition is not engaging in commerce,” Cuccinelli said, according to Reuters.
Status: The Virginia legislature already passed a bill saying that no Virginian can be required to purchase insurance. Wednesday, Gov. Bob McDonnell is expected to sign the bill into law. Cuccinelli vowed to file his lawsuit as “soon as the ink is dry” on the health care bill.

WASHINGTON

Legal Challenges: Washington is joining the interstate federal lawsuit.
Star Crusader: Politicking is playing a big role in the health care fight in Washington state. Attorney General Rob McKenna is widely believed to be seeking the Republican gubernatorial nomination in 2012. He drew a sharp rebuke from incumbent Gov. Chris Gregoire when he announced that Washington would join the lawsuit.
Grounds: “This unprecedented federal mandate, requiring all Washingtonians to purchase health insurance, violates the Commerce Clause and the 10th amendment of the U.S. Constitution,” McKenna said in a statement.
Status: Though McKenna said that Washington would join the lawsuit, Gov. Gregoire said that she was planning to file her own suit arguing that McKenna is not representing the state.


2,637 posted on 03/23/2010 2:33:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: azishot; blackie; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; GlennBeck08; reasonisfaith; ...
TIME TO KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES FRIENDS



I AM A WARRIOR AND THIS IS MY SONG

The Warrior Song

2,638 posted on 03/23/2010 3:43:23 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine; All

MM, can you embed this here?

These lyrics are the PERFECT Song for our Fight, I now ADOPT it!
READ the lyrics & tell me what you think?

Michael Jackson - They Don’t Really Care About Us Lyrics

All I wanna say is THEY really don’t care about us!
Tell me what has become of MY rights?
Am I invisible because YOU ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me FREE LIBERTY
now...
I can’t believe this is the land from which I came!
The government don’t wanna see
Beat me~bash me~you can never trash me
Hit me, kick me, you can NEVER get me
All I wanna say is they don’t really care about US
All I wanna say is they don’t really care about US
All I wanna say is they don’t really care about US
All I wanna say is they don’t really care about US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50YMa4XN_-0


2,639 posted on 03/23/2010 3:49:06 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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Republican Governors Association

Governors Alliance...

2,640 posted on 03/23/2010 4:22:00 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

Nice!


2,641 posted on 03/23/2010 4:28:23 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: presently no screen name; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; dixiechick2000; politicalmerc; The Cajun; ...

Fourteen States Have Filed Lawsuits

On Tuesday, Virginia’s attorney general Ken Cuccinelli filed a lawsuit challenging the health care bill. Thirteen other states have banded together to file a lawsuit — Florida, South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Louisiana, Idaho, Washington and Colorado. Those thirteen attorneys general are mostly Republicans, but one is a Democrat. Their spokesperson is the very personable Bill McCollum of Florida.

At issue will be whether Congress has the power to treat as “interstate commerce” the actions of a citizen who hasn’t purchased anything, and whether Congress has the authority to order citizens to buy any product:

“Never in this nation’s history has the commerce power been used to require a person who does nothing, to engage in economic activity,” said Professor Randy Barnett of Georgetown University Law Center.

Mandating that all Americans purchase health insurance is akin to “requir[ing] every American to buy a new Chevy Impala every year,” to help the automobile industry, Barnett said.

More to the point, large numbers of Americans do not choose traditional health care. Many use alternative modalities, and many rely on prayer. So forcing them to buy traditional health insurance is like forcing people who only drink tea to buy a coffee pot.

http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/


2,642 posted on 03/23/2010 4:42:55 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: blackie; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; smokingfrog

~ping


2,643 posted on 03/23/2010 4:44:02 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

“Mandating that all Americans purchase health insurance is akin to “requir[ing] every American to buy a new Chevy Impala every year,” to help the automobile industry, Barnett said.”

LOL - don’t give ‘em any more bright ideas! :)


2,644 posted on 03/23/2010 5:16:36 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: JustPiper
Huuuurrrraaaagggghhhh!!! Image and video hosting by TinyPic
2,645 posted on 03/23/2010 5:26:24 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I’d urge people to donate to his GOP opponent if they can.


2,646 posted on 03/23/2010 5:59:05 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
From your linked article on Rush
Limbaugh said Obama is getting what he wanted – a complete makeover of the U.S. into a country with bureaucratic control over individual lives.
This video from one year ago sums up Lord Obama very nicely.

What Obama Wants

2,647 posted on 03/23/2010 5:59:11 PM PDT by syriacus (Obama says we shouldn't infer that a HUMONGOUS gov't health bill will lead to any gov't takeover.)
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To: MestaMachine; presently no screen name; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; All

O
M
G
FIVE FREAKIN STARS!!!

How is it possible you made me fall in Love with Paulie even more! He truly is perfect NOW!


2,648 posted on 03/23/2010 9:47:58 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine; blackie

BTW when I came upon your Paulie States I was listening to Hotzzzzz Robin Thicke singing Lost Without You, another perfect Paulie moment!

Thank you hugs & kisses!

SM-Roy Ayers on now -g-


2,649 posted on 03/23/2010 9:49:49 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: MestaMachine

Can this be posted on FB?


2,650 posted on 03/23/2010 9:54:46 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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