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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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To: JustPiper

And now I’ve had my break and have to get back to pulling up that anchor. DANG, 31 years in one place one can accumulate a lot of stuff. Staging in the garage but had to tidy it up first. Called in a 20 yard trash box and a lot of our stuff is going into that. But we have unearthed some almost forgotten treasures too.


521 posted on 02/16/2010 1:55:01 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: JustPiper; onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Per Just Piper:

TY to a FRiend, you know who you are. This is vital to see, capture, save, share

Dossier2.MP4”>IMMEDIATE ATTENTION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlEbBZLzo0

I agree. Thank you, Piper.

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In all that most of us who have been researching this rogue
character for a couple of years know .. this imposter of
such dark and hidden past and subversive goals and
alliances .. you can’t help but imagine:

how gleeful, how joyous they were, slapping backs and highfiving, when, in spite of all the filth, the lies, the sealed records, the clever vagueness, fabricated associations, the Communists and terrorists of his life, the document he submitted to become a presidential candidate was blithely accepted without a wrinkle, and the years of pre-planning and manufactured life history enabled this golden path to all-encompassing power.

Oh yes ... when no questions, no request for further
information was requested, as he had already jived his way
into the IL political swampland, the deal with his masters
and the plans for our doom were sealed.

http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/rhode-island-obamas-signed-statement-of-intent-to-seek-the-nomination-of-president.pdf

With that ‘sense of the senate’ resolution they tried to get through regarding McCain’s erroneously stated ‘natural born citizenship,’ I can’t help but wonder if the powerful puppetmasters weren’t going to proceed with their evil plans ... no matter WHICH candidate won.


522 posted on 02/16/2010 3:31:07 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: JustPiper

How do I download?


523 posted on 02/16/2010 4:02:37 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: JustPiper

I should read all 500 posts but surely someone has commented that zero will just BS his way into obmacare using presidential powers or the nuclear option.?


524 posted on 02/16/2010 4:12:17 PM PST by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Vendome; JustPiper

At the top of the video, a little popup comes
up and says: download video.

When I downloaded, it went to my Real Player
Downloader.

Then when you open Real Player, you go to
My Library, and see all you have saved
and can click on them and replay from your
computer.


525 posted on 02/16/2010 5:02:10 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE; JustPiper; All

“I can’t help but wonder if the powerful puppetmasters weren’t going to proceed with their evil plans ... no matter WHICH candidate won.”

The short answer is yes. I have been trying since before the primaries to tell people what was coming. No one listened. They said I was crazy.
McCain was handpicked as was obama. This started and had been in the planning for years and years. All the dominos were in place. All that was left was to set them in motion.

Bush did that. He knocked over the first domino and they have been falling ever since. Now they are falling faster and faster and people have no clue how bad this really is, how much money was really stolen, or how much power they still seek to amass unto themselves.

Every step they took began to take a clear shape with the Clinton administration but the structure had been put into place long before Clinton was ever elected.

bill married hillary for the same reason bo married michelle. Chicago. Alinsky. MONEY and the biggest wholesale robbery and betrayal of the US ever set in motion.

Even during Reagan, there was no break in this march. The same people who saved the PLO to continue the destruction of Israel are the same people who are still in control to this day. It really had nothing to do with Israel OR Jews. They needed islamists and terrorists. PLO was a start. They created and facillitated al Qaeda for their own purposes. Israel is the excuse, not the reason.

This is an artcle I wrote a few years ago. I have been trying to explain history since long before. Beck stumbled onto it and has been cramming. Connecting all these dots is complicated and we are only used to seeing the chaos they throw in our faces to cover up the long, straight line.
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Tuesday, March 13, 2007
THE ELITE TERRORIST
Man was created in G-d’s image...and given dominion over the earth.
OH, YEAH?
Why would anyone think such a thing when on the face of it, it is, (by far,) the most narcissistic worship of the self, NOT G-d. It is a profane insult to creation itself.
However, there certainly ARE those insane and evil meglomaniacs who have tried to place themselves in the roles of gods and the results have been as far from godly as the very thought itself.
All of last week curiousity abounded as George Soros, one of the most vile men in world, a virulent anti-war, (anti-America,) activist and financier of the World Workers Party, mentor of Bowel Movement dot org., bought himself a full 2% interest in Halliburton stock. It seems to me to be the tip of the iceberg in a major insider trading scheme.

Soros is an avowed America hater, and Halliburton has been perceived as one of the greatest beneficiaries of the Iraq war. That is not hardly an unfounded perception. So WHY would Soros, the hater, suddenly decide he loves Halliburton after all?
Do the name, Dubai, ring a bell?
Before the announcement that Halliburton was shipping its Corporate HQ out to Islamoworld, its stock was falling like autumn leaves. Soros paid a very cheap price for his stocks and I can’t help but wonder who else was in on this deal.
There are far more names than Soros’ attached to this megacorp AND many specifically on Dubai’s payroll. As much as I wish it wasn’t so, too many people inside and outside our own government, in the big boardrooms and luxury suites breathing rarefied air, have opened a very large vein and the blood is gushing.
BIG names. Huge names are connected with both Halliburton and Dubai. From both present and former high ranking government officials down to the lower blobbosphere of Michael Moore.
I don’t mean those who have pension monies and shares for their benefit, short or long.
I’m talking here about SOME power brokers who bleed the system and the world without conscience.
If anyone looks back at the Dubai Ports deal, you might ask yourself why Chuck, the Shmuck, Schumer would take the political lead in *outing* the Dubai Ports deal to jumpstart Hillary Clinton’s ‘08 run, make her “look” patriotic, and give her a stick to wield against Bush, when the deal was brokered BY HER husband’s lobbying firm.
Past that are, Madelaine, (never right,) Albright, Henry, (peace without any honor whatsover,) Kissinger, James, (the Fraud,) Baker, Bob, (the War Hero,) Dole, and many others you can easily find if you care.
Yes. You might indeed ask. And you should indeed care.
The answer, my friends, is that the whole mess was manufactured and Dubai always had its aces in place. Shmucky made out like the bandit he always was.
The last word on the sale of Dubai Ports Management in the USA, came on February 16, 2007.
These quotes are from various news sources and are easily searchable:
“The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that DP World’s sale of its port-management contract to AIG had hit a snag over squabbles with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.”
“It said DP World had received approval for the sale at all of the other facilities it operates in the US, but the Port Authority was demanding that the Dubai-based company pay as much as $84mn to approve the lease transfer.”
“The new demands placed the overall transaction into jeopardy, the paper said, by greatly increasing the transaction cost for DP World. It was not clear how much the overall deal was worth but DP World had initially said it expected no problems with the deal because it was selling to an American firm.”
“Earlier yesterday, UAE newspapers had reported that DP World had refused to pay an $84mn transaction fee.”
“ ‘We have not accepted and we will not accept the huge fee they now demand,’ DP World chairman Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem was quoted as saying.”
“One newspaper said the New York Port Authority had demanded DP World pay the fee in order to authorise the sale of its US port facilities to AIG.”
Ahhhh, yes. New York, New York.
DO you care? Because if you don’t, you have no idea what you are in for.
Personally, I find it astounding, albeit, predictable, that since Soros jumped heavy and publicly into Halliburton, many of the really left-wing editorial pages are now slashing and burning the very same Democrats Soros once supported in his crusade to STOP the Iraq war for trying to do exactly what he paid them to do.
Take the blinders off, y’all. Islam doesn’t need to be at “war” with us. Our “leaders” have already sold us to them.
And stop being clueless over the upcoming presidential election. It isn’t who WE want that’s important to anyone but us. We have to pick from those already chosen for us. And who chose them? The New York/New Jersey Mafia, Chicago Mafia, and very soon now, the Bubba Mafia by replacing their effeminate, lopsided candidate, John Edwards, with a “real” conservative. Believe it.
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(Turned out to be McCain.)
Please note who control of the ports was eventually given to.
Do AIG ring a bell?

Also note that it was Schumer who started the run on Indybank causing one of the most devastating bank failures of all time and led to what has been a virtual takeover of the fed and the treasury along with the entire US and ultimately the world banking system.

http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2008/06/23/daily29.html
Friday, June 27, 2008
Schumer raises prospect of IndyMac Bank failure

The U.S. Senator who leads the Senate subcommittee that oversees the Federal Reserve and economic policy has written letters to federal bank regulators questioning the condition of IndyMac Bancorp Inc. of Pasadena, news services reported Friday.

Sen. Charles Schumer, a Democrat from New York, sent the letters to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Federal Housing Finance Board and the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco. The letters reportedly said Schumer is concerned IndyMac “may have serious problems with its current loan holdings, and could face a failure if prescriptive measures are not taken quickly.”
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Barely one month after my article.


526 posted on 02/16/2010 5:11:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: STARWISE

1. The subprime mortgage crisis reached a critical stage during the first week of September 2008, characterized by severely contracted liquidity in the global credit markets and insolvency threats to investment banks and other institutions.
2. Reserve balances from banks in the Federal Reserve System began increasing over required levels of about $10 billion at the beginning of September 2008, just after the Democratic and Republican national conventions, and just before the stock market crash and presidential debates.
3. Clinton, Obama Harlem meeting 9/11
4. On Friday afternoon September 12, Hank Paulson told Wall Street that the government would not step in to save Lehman.
Barclays walked away from the negotiating table on September 13th or 14th. There was physically not enough time, before the opening of the markets on Monday September 15th, for Lehman to negotiate anything with anyone else. Lehman was forced to file for Chapter 11 on Monday September 15th, and a few days later Barclays was able to cherry pick Lehman’s best assets and business units and buy them for a reduced price.
5. HEADLINE
Wall Street Meltdown: The Sky Is Falling
By: Pamela Leavey
September 15th, 2008 @ 9:09 am
6. 16/09/09 “The Scotsman” — - SLAM. Slam. Slam. Slam. Like a scene from a gathering of Mafia dons, the doors of 30 black Lincolns slammed shut as their besuited occupants stepped out into a Manhattan downpour – and into a global financial storm. That storm broke yesterday, with stock markets tumbling around the world. In London, the FTSE 100 plunged almost 4 per cent to 5204.2. Scotland’s banking giants were among the biggest victims. HBOS slumped 17.5 per cent; Royal Bank of Scotland lost 12.2 per cent. In the US, the Dow Jones industrial average suffered its biggest fall since 9/11
7. On The Financial Crisis McCain Gives Speech, Obama Holds Press Conference
Added by Mark Nickolas on Sep 19, 2008
8. Rupert Cornwell: Wall Street meltdown rekindles Obama’s fire Out of America: After a summer in which the Republican candidate has made all the running, events are at last starting to fit the Democrats’ script.
According to James Campbell, the mid-September financial crisis hit the 2008 presidential election like a bolt out of the blue, transforming it from a horserace in which John McCain had a real chance of victory into a one-sided contest in which Barack Obama enjoyed a decisive advantage.
9. Sunday, 21 September 2008
Bill Clinton: He’s really, really glad to see John McCain
Exerpt:
John McCain, in suspending his presidential campaign to (eventually) head back to Washington from New York to help the push for a financial rescue plan, may have nixed a planned appearance on “Late Night with David Letterman” and cancelled a chat with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
But McCain wasn’t about to snub his old friend, Bill Clinton, this morning. And the ex-president, for all his expressions of support for Barack Obama and predictions of victory in November for his fellow Democrat, continues to give the impression he’s definitely hedging his bets.
DON’T WE JUST KNOW IT!!!


527 posted on 02/16/2010 5:27:54 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: STARWISE; JustPiper

Also, you might be interested in the fact that right around the Dubai Ports deal, Dubai ALSO aquired maintenance facilities and contracts in the US for the US airline industry. Even the little one at Meena. Do Meena, Arkansas ring yet another bell? BCCI?
Dubai also had begun a space industry about ten years ago. They have invested billions into it Funny how bam is seeking to shut our space program down.

Updates
http://www.ameinfo.com/131682.html
Emirates Institution for Advanced Science & Technology signs MoU with Russian Space Agency
United Arab Emirates: Tuesday, September 11 - 2007 at 17:00
PRESS RELEASE.The Emirates Institution for Advanced Science & Technology (EIAST), a Dubai government organization, has signed a memorandum of understanding with the Russian Federal Space Agency (ROSCOSMOS) as it gears up to launch DubaiSat-1, a project that initiates its space program.
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http://www.ameinfo.com/news/Company_News/E/EIAST/


528 posted on 02/16/2010 5:57:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: JustPiper

Probably should have posted this stuff on TM.


529 posted on 02/16/2010 5:59:02 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine

TY lil one!


530 posted on 02/16/2010 8:05:25 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: MestaMachine
My girl in full focus -g-

connecting the dots...

New Obama envoy to OIC has long history of dalliances with Muslim Brotherhood. As if this coverup weren't enough...

President Obama's Militant Muslim Connections

We have written on the network of radicals attached to Barack Obama’s political and public career, and perhaps none carry the impact of Rashid Khalidi.
Video: Hannity on the Obama-Khalidi connection

Obama worked with terrorist Senator helped fund organization that rejects 'racist' Israel's existence

Obama: Arab American?

Is Obama really African-American?
Obama Toxic?

The Real Reason Obama Did not Go to Kenya on His Africa Tour

Obama's connection to ARAB AMERICAN ACTION NETWORK (Search)

The Arab American Action Network is a Chicago community center

531 posted on 02/16/2010 8:08:10 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: STARWISE

On the right side , there is a teeny option of download as, I always get MP4, try again?

The Obama/Soetoro Dossier.
EX
Download: FLV MP4 3GP HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlEbBZLzo0


532 posted on 02/16/2010 8:10:50 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: rodguy911

If you join the group I have half of the thread linked in categories -g-

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NOtoSocialism/


533 posted on 02/16/2010 8:12:11 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Vendome

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=532#532

If you still need help do not hesitate to let me know ok?


534 posted on 02/16/2010 8:13:50 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: STARWISE

~ping


535 posted on 02/16/2010 8:15:05 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: STARWISE

TY for posting this Star!


536 posted on 02/16/2010 8:15:37 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper

Welcome ..


537 posted on 02/16/2010 8:17:34 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: JustPiper

I got it and thank you .


538 posted on 02/16/2010 8:20:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: JustPiper
While some eat and others starve . . .take a look at the 'Leadership' of those third world countries where people are starving. Notice anything 'incongruent'? Of course. . .

Evil always needs a good horse to ride on; how else does would evil get around? On a bad horse? Nooooo.

539 posted on 02/16/2010 8:27:31 PM PST by cricket (Proud to be in the 'Party of NO')
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To: jersey117

posted at TM & trying hard to spread it viral!


540 posted on 02/16/2010 8:30:18 PM PST by JustPiper
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