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Lawmaker believes Legislature should select U.S. senators
The Verde Independent ^ | February 9, 2010 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 02/10/2010 12:10:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t get this. So, there would be no primary?

The legislature would choose the candidates, but how many?

And how does this not aid someone like Byrd who simply can send federal dollars home to balance the state books?


41 posted on 02/10/2010 2:10:47 PM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: MrRobertPlant2009

To continue, this just seems like a way to make bribery easier. Instead of buying off the voters, I can simply buy off 20 or so legislators by promising them federal dollars for their district.

Suddenly, Bobby Nobody from Beckley County, WV can have a bridge on I-77 named after him.


42 posted on 02/10/2010 2:13:27 PM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

While I agree in printable, I don’t think this half measure is the way to do it. As it will almost certainly backfire, killing the over all causes.

This is an easy target for a largely ignorance population be sold into being against.

The best in term measure is simply a senate recall mechanism initiated by either the voters in a referendum or the legislator more dynamically.


43 posted on 02/10/2010 2:41:15 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

That works for me :)!!!!


44 posted on 02/10/2010 3:54:32 PM PST by Nat Turner (Escaped from NY in 1983 and not ever going back....)
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To: mick; R. Scott; GOPsterinMA

This proposal means nearly half the states in this country would never elect Republican Senators again. Scott Brown would’ve lost by a 9-to-1 margin in MA in favor of “Marcia” Coakley.


45 posted on 02/10/2010 4:47:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

1,000,000% correct FM!


46 posted on 02/10/2010 5:13:12 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Camelot sleeps with the fishes!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Sure. This would be what would happen today with the breakdown in the State Legislatures.

But our belief is that returning to the original intent of the Constitution would, over time, change the US Senate into a body very, very jealous of the rights and prerogatives of the individual States. That is the point of repealing the 17th Amend. Democrat and Republican are not the problem. It is the Progressive Philosophy to consolidate power in the national government that has infected both parties that is the problem.

At least this is how those of us pushing for this see it.

47 posted on 02/11/2010 12:30:12 AM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: mick

I understand the argument, we had this discussion recently in another thread, but you simply can’t get around the makeup of the legislatures. People believe the quality of the Senators would improve, I really don’t. It only serves to make them that much less accountable to the people. I know what kind of hacks my state would’ve sent to DC, and it chills my blood. It wouldn’t have been for 140 years until last year we would’ve been able to send a Republican to the Senate.


48 posted on 02/11/2010 12:44:27 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I doubt that. If the People are strong enough Republican to elect a Republican Senator their State legislature/assembly will appoint a Republican - or blow their chance at reelection.
Originally the US Senate represented the States and the House of Representatives represented We, the People. Now our State has no representation. Why do we have an Upper and Lower House at the Federal level when both are composed of elected politicians? With both being directly elected why not eliminate the Senate and combine both functions in the House?


49 posted on 02/11/2010 3:06:16 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any particular reason we are trying to make Republican Senators extinct?


52 posted on 02/11/2010 1:28:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

I’m not trying to do that. That’s why I said the legislatures need to be changed, in addition to Repeal. Without good legislators, you’ll just end up with a different group of jerks up there.


53 posted on 02/11/2010 1:48:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ll buy that big time.


54 posted on 02/11/2010 1:50:35 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: R. Scott
I understand, again, your dreams of having a better Senate with the repeal of the 17th, but it's not gonna happen. You're going to have party hacks filling those seats, even more unaccountable than ever before. You think legislators will be bounced ? Are you familiar with the concept of gerrymandering ? That is a near-surefire way of insulation from the voters. You doubt Massachusetts, which has a 90% Democrat legislature, populated by useless hacks, union thugs and outright criminals, would've not elected Scott Brown ? I'm sorry, but that's simply insane. You guys need to do more research on individual legislatures and see EXACTLY what you'll be getting if you returned that power to them. If you think the Senate is bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
55 posted on 02/11/2010 2:24:14 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

So why not just eliminate the US Senate? Why two elected bodies, why not just one?


57 posted on 02/12/2010 3:11:39 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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So why not just eliminate the US Senate? Why two elected bodies, why not just one?

After raising taxes on every man, woman and child in the US, 0bama is going to cut costs by firing all those pesky Congressmen and Senators who just make it harder for him to have what he wants.

58 posted on 02/12/2010 3:18:10 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. (Hi Mom.))
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To: R. Scott

Hey, if Nebraska could eliminate it, why not ? It’d make things run smoother. Of course, that would include progress in good years and tyranny in bad. Always a downside.


59 posted on 02/12/2010 3:43:58 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: paulycy

I still want at representation by We the People. If 0bama does that it would mean a revolution!


60 posted on 02/12/2010 1:36:30 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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