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Walmarts Replace Brand Name Food with Their Brand “Great Value”
NewsFlavor ^ | Friday, December 4, 2009 | DiamondPoet

Posted on 02/16/2010 10:01:48 AM PST by Star Traveler

Walmart’s Replace Brand Name Food with Their Brand “Great Value”. Who Will This Really Benefit?

Published by diamondpoet
December 4, 2009

What is Walmart really up to.

Walmart is one of the biggest supermarket chains in the world. As of August 31, 2008, Walmart has as many as 100 food categories:

United States 4,227 total units.

International 3,210 total units

This is a time where families needs to make every penny count, Walmart expansion of it’s Great Value brand is replacing many of the name brands, we have used for so many years.

The new improved Great Value products — which has been appearing on shelves and various sections of the store, is slowly  being integrated into Walmart stores across the country, within the past few months – will provide families with affordable and possible high quality groceries. This is some sales jargon that Walmart has come up with, but what is really going on?

Walmart is the company, that is famous for their roll-back slogan, and now it would seem that they are also trying to monopolize the food industry. I am all for savings, but I prefer quality products and good taste. I grew up with many of the brand names and it is what I am accustomed to.

There are a few thing that I could settle for, that is not name brand, but when I was shopping during the Thanksgiving holiday, I was looking for McCormick’s vanilla, this is the only brand that I use to make my pies. I discovered that Walmart had completely removed McCormick’s brand and replaced it with their own brand Great Value. I rely on McCormick’s products to prepare many of my meals.

I tried using substitutes, but there is no comparison to McCormick’s Seasonings. I have never shopped anywhere other than Walmart, because I was comfortable and they basically provided most of my needs.

It would now see that I am being forces to shop somewhere else. Walmart no longer stock  all the brand names that I desire. Since Walmart is trying to completely eliminate the middle-man, what type of effect will this have on many of the distributors and will this also have a spiraling effect on the economy as well?

Since so many distributors rely on Walmart’s business, will they not suffer and be forced to downsize? I can’t help but wonder is this really going to benefits the consumers or hurt us even more?


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To: Star Traveler

I started a litte trend last week, where I printed up about 15 sheets of 72 font bold simply saying PRODUCT OF CHINA. Everything that I bought that had a Chinese alternative had it placed on it. Like the Tilapia that was on sale as an example One associate saw me do it, and didn’t say a word.


251 posted on 02/16/2010 4:02:52 PM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: TASMANIANRED
You were saying ...

Kroger has their own brand, why not Wallmart.

Well, if that's all that was being said here... we would have nothing much to talk about. That would be fine. But, you see... that's not what is being talked about... :-)

The deal is that Walmart has been discontinuing certain selected name-brand products and only having their off-brand product in its place.

Now, what you see most all the other big stores and chains (at least that I've seen and been to) -- is that -- yes -- they carry off-brand labels, along with the name-brand label on the shelf. The consumer can look at both of them and pick which one they want. That consumer has the choice of either one -- right in that same store. There's no need to go elsewhere. That store has kept the consumer in the same store.

BUT... what Walmart has done with those certain select products is that when the regular shopper at Walmart who gets that name-brand product sees that it's not there any longer -- Walmart has actually "pushed that consumer into Walmart's competitor's hands"... LOL...

Now, if that isn't the stupidest marketing move ever... I don't know what else would be... :-)

That's what the problem is... that is... Walmart driving their former customers who can no longer find those certain selected name-brand products there -- right into the hands of the competitors of Walmart...

Real smart... Walmart... :-)

252 posted on 02/16/2010 4:03:12 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
If Walmart can't buy it at the price they want, they don't carry it. They are so big it really hurts a company if their products aren't sold at WM.

I have little shopping choice as there is only one other grocery store in my town and WM is the one most convenient to me.

I buy meat at a meat market.

253 posted on 02/16/2010 4:03:43 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: gitmo
You were saying ...

Does the author start out with a credibility deficit when he confuses the possessive with the plural on the very first word of the article?

You're probably talking about a normal housewife who can't find her name-brand product (and several products she says) at her Walmart any more...

I doubt she's a professional writer... but I'll guarantee you, she's a "professional shopper" and Walmart is probably going to lose her as a customer at some point, if they keep that up... :-)

254 posted on 02/16/2010 4:05:12 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: magritte; humblegunner
You were saying ...

As noted before, many manufacturers use essentially the same product for generic and name brands. In a previous lifetime, I worked in the catbox filler industry...the main difference between the store brands and the main line was the color sprayed on it...magritte

It doensn't work that way all the time. There's a problem with drawing those conclusions "across the board" if you've seen it a time or two in a couple of different places.

What I do know is that there are different runs made for different quality products/raw material for these manufacturers at certain places and for certain items.

Now, I don't say that this is so for all of them, but it's so for a certain number of them -- and so that's why you've got people reporting that -- "it was the same when I tried it" -- and others reporting -- "it was garbage when I tasted it and I went back to my name-brand product"... So you see, it varies from product to product and from place to place.

255 posted on 02/16/2010 4:08:55 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
I don't like their business practices; avoid shopping there except on rare occasions. I feel that they've forced jobs out of the country. I don't support that.

Others might disagree, and that's fine. That's how it's supposed to work.
256 posted on 02/16/2010 4:10:35 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Reagan Man; JasonC
You were saying ...

I agree with you, Jason. Even though some national brand items are better then the generic brands, its mostly psychological. If you want to spend less, ignore the pretty packaging and labeling. After you open it and try it, if you don't like it, Wal-Mart will take it back and refund your money, in full. Simple as that.

Well... two things here.

The first thing is that there are differing quality products that are produced for these off-labels. This may not be so with all products, but it's so with enough of them so that you have to try it out and see if there is a difference. In many cases, it might be fine, and then again, in many cases, you might find out that it's absolutely terrible (bad quality control there or bad raw products/lowered quality). So, it can vary and there are differences between name-brand stuff and "off-label stuff.

Now, the "second thing" here is that the problem that people have run into here with Walmart (i.e., what the article is about here) is not about the quality of the off-brand label that Walmart has -- but -- it's about the fact that Walmart has chosen to eliminate some name-brands and only carry their "off-brand" label, as the only item. And I understand from some other articles that Walmart is going to be doing more of that, too.

SO..., what has happened is that a certain number of Walmart shoppers have been pushed out (by Walmart's decision to eliminate the name-brand item) and right straight into the hands of Walmart's competitors.

And there you have it -- the stupidest marketing decision that I've heard Walmart making ... LOL...

257 posted on 02/16/2010 4:14:31 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: mysterio

Yeah, and I understand your sentiments on the issue. I’ve got concerns there, too... but I’ve still shopped there. However, the one thing that will actually make me quit shopping there will be if Walmart starts discontinuing many more of these name-brand products that I normally buy.

That’s what is going to kill Walmart, even more than that sentiment of yours (and it’s a legitimate one, too...).


258 posted on 02/16/2010 4:16:17 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: lonestar
You were saying ...

If Walmart can't buy it at the price they want, they don't carry it. They are so big it really hurts a company if their products aren't sold at WM.

That's a two-edged sword... :-)

Let me tell you what's going to hurt Walmart. If a consumer can't find their product on the shelf of Walmart, then they are going to go looking for it elsewhere.

Now, someone else here on this thread posted that sometimes Walmart discontinues an item for a couple of months or more (he was hinting, I think, that it was a negotiatig tactic). Now, that may be so -- but I'll tell you that if my product is off the shelf for a couple of months -- I'm going somewhere else... LOL...

That cuts both ways with Walmart.

And if Walmart starts eliminating a whole slew of name-brand stuff and only carries their own "off-label" and I can't get my stuff there -- it will be "audios to Walmart"... :-)

259 posted on 02/16/2010 4:21:52 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
I’m appalled at how much “Made in China” is there... ugh!

Products of China are taking over. I get fresh vegetables in season at a local farmer's market. I especially like their fresh garlic. Last year I couldn't find the bin of garlic they usually have and instead they had garlic in net bags like many stores sell onions. When I got home I realized in small print the tag said the garlic was a product of China. On my next trip I quizzed the worker at the farmer's market about what happened to their terrific garlic they always had and why they had garlic from China~ she did not "get it" at all.

260 posted on 02/16/2010 4:30:16 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Star Traveler

Interesting post...I used to love shopping for my groceries there, it was cheaper by a mile. However they remodeled the store about 6 months ago, and after that the selection changed substantially. Off the top of my head I can think of about a dozen products I like and used to purchase there that they quit carrying. Some of them weren’t even replaced by Walmart brands, they just didnt have enought room on the shelves to squeeze them in. I just quit going, it wasn’t worth having to go there and then to Publix to get the other stuff I like. Oh well its not anything I’ve even complained to my wife about..Walmart is smart, if their crap don’t sell, they will replace it.


261 posted on 02/16/2010 4:30:56 PM PST by wareagle7295
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To: matthew fuller

Actually some of the cans at Walmart do state something to the effect that the product was developed in China. I do think you have a point about other businesses though. I’m sure theirs are labeled too, if Walmarts are.

Good point.


262 posted on 02/16/2010 4:48:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (God, Family, Friends, Home, Town, State, the U.S., Conservatism, Free Republic & a dollar a day...)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Buying food at Walmart, where the only consideration is price, is like buying food at a 99c store. I would only recommend it to the suicidal and those who want to experience the joys of being a guinea pig.

LOL! Very true. Unlike Crocodile Dundee's famous outback barbie, it tastes like $#!+, and it won't necessarily keep you alive.

263 posted on 02/16/2010 5:03:30 PM PST by giotto
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To: wareagle7295
Say..., you're FReeper name doesn't have anything to do with the War Eagle Mill, does it? Just wondering, since I've been over there.
264 posted on 02/16/2010 5:23:39 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Sounds like you're agreeing with me. Well, may be not.

>>>>>And there you have it -- the stupidest marketing decision that I've heard Walmart making ... LOL...

Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.

As an old purchasing agent and manager, I've bought supplies, services and capital equipment for several industries and businesses since the 1960`s, including retail sales. As I said, the quality of Walmart in-house generic brand products is mostly as good as you'll find in national brand names. Although it wasn't always like that. Sometimes items do not measure up.

In the 12 years or so I've been buying groceries at Walmart, I'd say the generic brands have worked for me in almost all cases. After several generic items didn't measure up to my standards, I went back to the old standbys.

Walmart's marketing of these generic products is straightforward and limited to a trial and error basis. Put it on the shelf and if it sells, you've got a winner. If the item doesn't sell, you remove it and try again at some future date. May be after finding a new supplier or simply after revamping the product.

The reason Walmart, along with Safeway and King Soopers in my area of the country, are using more generic products is obvious. They're selling and saving people money!

For the most part, its good stuff. If you have a problem shopping at Walmart, go somewhere else. Just stop whining already!

265 posted on 02/16/2010 5:27:25 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Star Traveler

It’s a real ugly label, too. The coffee I bought, it looked like a can of house paint. Not even paint. Primer.


266 posted on 02/16/2010 5:27:28 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

LOL... it is an ugly label... someone is real messed up in the marketing department at Walmart, I think...


267 posted on 02/16/2010 5:35:48 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Oh... I gotta say one more thing about the “off-brand” label, when I saw how ugly it was, I figured that the only reason they had that kind of label is so that Walmart could save on printing costs and not have to pay for hardly any ink for their labels... LOL...


268 posted on 02/16/2010 5:37:03 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

That’s what I thought too. Store brands and generics look like they’re run off on a cheap copier. They have to be cheaper to make, with no photos and hardly any color.

By the way, don’t drink their half and half. It’s watery.


269 posted on 02/16/2010 5:38:52 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: dragnet2; NormsRevenge

270 posted on 02/16/2010 5:40:35 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Reagan Man
You were saying ...

In the 12 years or so I've been buying groceries at Walmart, I'd say the generic brands have worked for me in almost all cases. After several generic items didn't measure up to my standards, I went back to the old standbys.

Walmart's marketing of these generic products is straightforward and limited to a trial and error basis. Put it on the shelf and if it sells, you've got a winner. If the item doesn't sell, you remove it and try again at some future date. May be after finding a new supplier or simply after revamping the product.

Well... there is a problem with what you said... and actually, I'm not sure you really understand what the problem is, that is being talked about here... :-)

First the problem with what you said -- it's that you (and anyone else, for that matter) can't assume that because you as an individual like generic products that this is going to work for everyone else. You should know that this is not going to be the case. Generics simply do not work for everyone. Not at all and not even by a "long shot" do they work for the majority of the people. They will work for a certain number.

Now... for the part you don't seem to understand. And I'll illustrate it by using one statement that you made (that I quoted up above)... you said...

After several generic items didn't measure up to my standards, I went back to the old standbys.

And -- there -- is precisely the problem with Walmart and the "stupidity" of their marketing... :-)

You said tht you "went back to the old standbys"...

WELL..., for a certain group of products... Walmart "got rid of the old standbys"... so you couldn't go back to them... LOL...

And the reason why it was a completely stupid and idiotic idea of Walmart to do that -- simply because if you could not go to your "old standby" at Walmart -- then you had to go to Walmart's competitor, to get that "old standby"...

And thus the problem -- Walmart would be "pushing you out" to a competitor, to get that "old standby" that you decided to go back to -- since you could no longer get it at Walmart... LOL...

I hope you "get it" by now... :-)

271 posted on 02/16/2010 5:49:11 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I don’t get my dairy products from Walmart... :-) There is a place around here in Tulsa that is called Braums. They are a hamburger/ice cream fast-food place, but they also sell some fresh fruit, a small selection of grocery products, milk, eggs, gallon ice cream, some meat products and stuff like that. I get those products at Braums and they’re the best... prices are good, too.


272 posted on 02/16/2010 5:53:05 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: lonestar

***”Great Value” orange juice is my favorite. Walmart has had GVroducts for years***

They better not mess with my Old Roy or Equate brands!;-D


273 posted on 02/16/2010 6:10:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Don't touch my ..Shoulder, Pork and Ham!)
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To: magritte

***main difference between the store brands and the main line***

Our local cannery does the same. When one order is complete, the labels are changed and another “brand” runs off the line. Same product. Possibly even Great Value!


274 posted on 02/16/2010 6:16:33 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Don't touch my ..Shoulder, Pork and Ham!)
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To: Star Traveler
Now, someone else here on this thread posted that sometimes Walmart discontinues an item for a couple of months or more (he was hinting, I think, that it was a negotiatig tactic).

This is true....and they usually win because they are so big. Can you imagine the impact on a company if they lose Walmart's account?

I think they move everything around every night at My WM so you find 10 things you don't need while trying to find the thing you were looking for.

I've heard they set the thermostats in their stores from Bentonville.

275 posted on 02/16/2010 6:20:45 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: Star Traveler

Putting their “great value” brand on the shelf next to name-brand products doesn’t bother me. I tend to buy name brand for most items, though not all. Now, if they start pushing the products that I like off the shelves, I will buy them elsewhere.

I have the choice of 3 nearby grocery chains plus WalMart and I shop at all of them. The pricing is interesting - WalMart’s regular price is usually lower than the other stores on common namebrand products like Life cereal and Triscuit crackers. But the grocers often have sales and when the non-perishable products that I like are on sale at other stores, I stock up on them.

There’s nothing wrong with having 10 boxes of crackers, a dozen cans of tuna, or 30 cans of soup on the shelf (just be sure to rotate your stock).


276 posted on 02/16/2010 6:26:47 PM PST by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success)
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To: Star Traveler
Its you who does not understand. You really don't know what you're talking about. And posting in condescending rhetorical circles does not make you right. I understand that is your SOP, nonetheless.

There is no problem from my point of view. From your perspective, the vast majority of people are more impressed with packaging and labeling, then they are in saving money. Fine. IMO, that is a psychological problem that only you and others can solve for yourselves. I can't help you. My remarks were directed from personal experience, along with years of marketing and professional work in the business world.

It doesn't matter if the item is generic or brand name. All items can be sub par to one degree or another. Consideration must always be given to available space and cost markup. If a brand name item is taken off the self in favor of a generic item, then it was done as a marketing decision. Why? The generic item was probably selling better then the brand name item. In most cases, its as simple as that. In some cases, old standbys, could be generic items.

The fact is, Walmart has made the other supermarket chains more price conscious and more competitive because of the strategy and tactics Walmart has employed in recent years. So far, Walmart is still winning the price wars and for good reasons. If Walmart generic items aren't for you, then shop at a more expensive store and pay more for the same quality. Not liking generic products as a rule of life, is a state of mind. A stupid state of mind.

277 posted on 02/16/2010 6:30:08 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo
Interesting about Walmart.
Frankly, large stores carry way too many brands and it's sometimes a pain finding the one you want. For instance, one whole aisle of cereals - when you are looking for one certain one....
278 posted on 02/16/2010 6:30:33 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: Star Traveler
The deal is that Walmart has been discontinuing certain selected name-brand products and only having their off-brand product in its place.

Which ones?

279 posted on 02/16/2010 6:45:31 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Reagan Man
You were saying ...

The fact is, Walmart has made the other supermarket chains more price conscious and more competitive because of the strategy and tactics Walmart has employed in recent years. So far, Walmart is still winning the price wars and for good reasons. If Walmart generic items aren't for you, then shop at a more expensive store and pay more for the same quality. Not liking generic products as a rule of life, is a state of mind. A stupid state of mind.

You still dont get it... and I have no idea why you can't...

The problem here is that you've got customers coming into Walmart that buy name-brand products, regardless of the fact of what it is that you or anyone else thinks about "off-brand" labeled products. That's just a fact of life and nothing you say or grouse about, concerning how someone should not care about name-brand products -- can change that fact. That's just the way it is.

And if Walmart wants their off-brand product on the shelves, that's fine too. You seem to want to make some kind of argument about that. It doesn't matter whether Walmart wants to put their off-brand product on their shelves or not. That's fine and that's not the issue.

And again, it's not the issue as to whether some should care or not care about name-brand products or off-brand products. That's not the issue.

Here's where the issue is. Walmart has taken off their shelves certain name-brand products that people have bought there and have bought regularly there at Walmart. And what they've done with these certain selected name-brand products -- is -- they've replaced them with their off-brand product and have no comparable name-brand one there.

Now... you've got these customers who have now discovered that they cannot get their name-brand product any longer at Walmart. So..., they are forced to go to Walmart's competitor to get that same product that they've been getting at Walmart all along.

Thus, Walmart's marketing decision to have only their off-brand Walmart product and no name-brand product (for that selected item) has caused those particular Walmart customers to be forced to go to a Walmart competitor.

Furthermore, according to an article in an advertising magazine (I posted it earlier here on this thread) -- Walmart is going to do more of the removing of any name-brand product and only have their off-brand product as the only item.

That means that more and more people are going to be "pushed out" of Walmart, by its own marketing decision to not have the products that these people have been buying all along at Walmart.

And that -- you see -- is the extremely stupid marketing decision, which Walmart ends up "driving customers away" and into their competitors stores, because Walmart decided to no longer keep the name-brand item that these customers have been buying all along.

That's the extremely stupid and idiotic marketing decision that Walmart has made, which is going to cause more and more of their previous customers to move over to the competitors for Walmart. A very bad decision on their part.

NOW..., what other major retailers do with their off-brand products -- is -- they keep both the name-brand and the off-brand on the shelves and let the customer decide which one they want. That way (in these other major retailer place) the customer is not forced "out of the store" (and to a competitor's store) to get that name brand product.

I don't know where Walmart is getting some of their marketing people these days, but they better fire them and get a better batch of marketing people in there before Walmart loses more customers... :-)

280 posted on 02/16/2010 6:49:59 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: CharacterCounts

Look up in the main article posted... the lady wrote it about one such product. And then look down the thread at the other article I posted about two other products that got on a news show that Walmart discontinued. There are two more products there.

I’ll give you one example of how Walmart drove me out of their store by eliminating a name-brand product that I was buying before and can no longer buy there now. It was an 80-count kitchen garbage bag by Hefty (and it’s one that the woman of the house wants and not me... so there... LOL..). And I am going to a competitor’s store now to get it. And I didn’t before.

Now, I haven’t quit going to Walmart all together, but I am now getting a few more and additional items from the competitor of Walmart — whereas — I was not doing that before I was forced out of their store — to get this name-brand product.

That’s what is happening at Walmart and it’s happening with many customers.

It starts slow, in the beginning and then it gets bigger and bigger as more and more customers have to go elsewhere, and then finally some customers figure that they’ll give up on Walmart and just get everything at the competitor’s store, since they have to go there anywhere to get several things there that they cannot get at Walmart any longer...

In addition to that, it appears (from what another FReeper said) that Walmart ends up playing some kind of “bargaining game” with suppliers and kicks their products off the shelves as some kind of negotiating tactic. Sometimes a product is going for several months and then shows up again — supposedly after Walmart has “bargained” for a better price, doncha know... :-)

BUT, as I said to that other FReeper, I’m not going to be waiting around for several months while one item and then another item and then another item disappears from the shelves and I can’t get it. No..., I’m going to go to another store — a competitor of Walmart’s and I’m going to start picking up the product that they’ve ended up kicking off the shelves for a few months to “bargain” with the supplier.

As I said, that’s a “two-edged” sword, and apparently Walmart is taking the consumer for granted, and only thinking about the “supplier end” of things as important. Well... the consumer is going to leave to go to another store, a competitor of Walmart’s.

And that’s the big and stupid mistake that Walmart is making right now.

In addition, whether it’s a bargaining thing with a supplier or stupid stockers — I’ve also noticed that several different products that I’ve bought at Walmart can be out of stock for weeks at a time, only to show up again, a number of weeks later. And the tag is still on the shelf and the space is still there, but no product.

I’ve been in this business before and that’s absolutely crazy. You can’t do that to your customers and expect to keep your customers around. In those instances, I’ve had to go to Walmart’s competitors and get those items.

It’s getting to the point where it’s going to be too big of an ordeal for dealing with what Walmart is doing. At this point, I haven’t decided that yet — but if Walmart keeps this up — they’re gonna lose another customer.


281 posted on 02/16/2010 7:01:23 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GOPJ
It's the same stuff.

Sometimes. I've not had good luck with the house brand soups that are supposed to be the same as campbells. Meat was very tough, and somewhat sparse. I bought some house-brand wheat crackers one time that were supposed to be the same as Triscuits - they weren't. Not horrible, but not nearly as good and the were all puffed up instead of flat like the real ones.

There's no guarantee that you're getting the same brand either. Yes, you may be getting the same product as Del Monte. Or Heinz (yecch - do you really want to support Teresa Heinz-Kerry?). Or maybe something else. And I bet it changes from one batch to another depending on who has the best deal.

I prefer to buy most items by brand, but I usually shop by price. It is rare that I buy non-perishables at their regular price, even at WalMart. That's not to say that I won't buy some house-branded items. Rice is rice. Flour is flour.

282 posted on 02/16/2010 7:04:20 PM PST by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success)
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To: meyer
You were saying ...

Putting their “great value” brand on the shelf next to name-brand products doesn’t bother me. I tend to buy name brand for most items, though not all. Now, if they start pushing the products that I like off the shelves, I will buy them elsewhere.

And that's what Walmart is currently doing. They are pushing off the shelf certain name-brand products that the customers of Walmart have been buying there all along. And all of a sudden -- they're gone.

So, in doing that Walmart has "pushed the customer out of Walmart" and into the arms of a competitor of Walmart in order for that customer to get the product that they've been buying all along at Walmart but can no longer do so.

283 posted on 02/16/2010 7:04:25 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

spices don’t retain their quality for that period of time


284 posted on 02/16/2010 7:08:42 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Star Traveler
Have you always been this dense? LOL Your posts are like one big run on sentence. You need to slow down and get a grip.

This is an argument directly related to name brand items versus generic items sold at Walmart. That means its all about supply and demand. The author is pissed off about not having McCormick's vanilla extract. Well, too bad. Life ain't perfect. Go shop at a store that sells it.

Walmart’s marketing decisions are based on their entire customer base and while that strategy may piss off some folks, most customers are satisfied. Different Walmart stores in different parts of the nation, sell many different items. As I keep telling you. If you don't like what items are being sold or not sold at Walmart --- whether they're brand names or generic --- then go shop somewhere else!

And stop making a mountain out of a mole hill!

285 posted on 02/16/2010 7:20:54 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
Some do, some don't. There is food in the tombs of Egyptian pharaohs which is perfectly edible today. It's not unusual to find rock salt which is several million years old.

I have plenty of spices in my cupboard which are more than 10 years old, and they're perfectly fine. The spice manufacturers will tell you to toss everything out in six months and start over. But they have an interest in doing so.

Anyway, the point is you can get a jar of McCormick spice the size of your head for less than $5 at Costco. If you use it up before it loses flavor, you can buy more. If it loses flavor before you use it up, you can buy a new jar.
286 posted on 02/16/2010 7:21:08 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: potlatch

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I hate off/generic-brand oatmeal

I know of one case where a wife buys it - and only the husband eats oatmeal - and he had a quad-bypass - the wife has never even tasted it

Saving a buck by buying cardboard/oatmeal to feed to the only breadwinner is what?

We are not talking poor folks here either

I would set that straight in a heartbeat!

You betcha!


287 posted on 02/16/2010 7:23:02 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . woodpile alert - "My muslim faith....." - "Kobe" Osama -- ABC-TV . . . . . . .)
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To: Star Traveler

I do a mixture of shopping there — sometimes getting the name brands — sometimes picking up the Great Value items.

It is basically the same food — say mustard as French’s Mustard — manufacturers just change the labels. I think we would be very surprised that when we buy something at WalMart — we are really getting the equivalent of the name brand product.


288 posted on 02/16/2010 7:27:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dearolddad
One summer I worked part time in a major food processing plant (tomato products). I saw as many as four different store brand names come off the same processing line.

I talked to a food plant management guy many years ago and he laughed at the idea of different brands of tomato sauce, he pointed out that it is a farm region product delivered by the truck loads and an industrial food plant, he said that they gear up to make and can sauce by massive volumes and that the only thing that changes in the process, is glued on labels.

289 posted on 02/16/2010 7:35:43 PM PST by ansel12 ( (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.))
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To: devolve

Well, I’m pretty sure I know who you are talking about. I agree, Quakers oats isn’t like an ‘expensive item’! But, I never heard of the cardboard being in oatmeal. I’m sure she didn’t know that. Can’t remember all the stuff it was in now.

I’m careful about the dogfood I buy, lol.


290 posted on 02/16/2010 7:36:01 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: Reagan Man
You were saying ...

This is an argument directly related to name brand items versus generic items sold at Walmart.

No... I think you're still not getting it...

For the customer who runs into this problem, as was mentioned in the article, and as was mentioned by me (concerning products that I've had to go elsewhere for), and as was mentioned by the national news publication that I posted here -- is not tied in with some issue of "name-brand vs. generic label/house brand".

You may be making it out that way, but that's not the problem here, you see. And that's why I say you're just not getting it.

Here's the problem -- and you've got to break out of your "mindset" that it's a "house-brand vs. name-label" issue. All you gotta do to think of it in the right terms -- is -- to think of it as what a customer buys... that's all... nothing more than that.

You see... there are customers that go into Walmart that have been buying their certain name-brand products from Walmart for a long time. And all of a sudden -- they don't find it there any longer. They find out that it's not going to be there.

Now, from Walmart's side of things, they may be thinking that they are pushing their generic label and that they don't need to stock any name-brand item for that selected product. But, that's coming from "Walmart's side of things" and their thinking.

The customer is not going into the store, thinking about how to market Walmart no-name label products. That's the last thing on their mind.

All the customer is doing, when they go into the store, is that they've got a list of things that they have gone to the store to buy. That's it!

You've got to be thinking like the "consumer" -- or else, if you're a business, and you don't think like a consumer, you're going to lose the consumer's business... it's that simple.

So, the consumer looks for this name-brand product that Walmart in it's own thinking -- said that they did not need to sell any longer. Well, they didn't consult the consumer on that one... LOL...

He came in there looking for the product that he's been buying all along, because that's what he likes and he's always gotten it (and for whatever other reasons he has, which could be numerous). Now, when it's not there at Walmart and that consumer wants that product -- it ends up that by Walmart making the decision to not carrying that name-brand product any longer and only use their own off-brand product -- Walmart has driven the customer out of Walmart -- and into the hands of Walmart's competitor.

I don't know of any other big retailer who has decided to start eliminating name-brand products (certain selected ones) and only carry their own "off-label product"... actually those other big retailers don't appear to be as stupid as Walmart in that regard -- and good thing, because those consumers who can't find the product that they went into Walmart to get (in the first place) now go to that Walmart competitor's store and get the product that this competitor still keeps on his shelf (along with his no-name generic on the shelf too).

The difference here between Walmart and another Walmart competitor, is that Walmart discontinued that selected name-brand product while the competitor did not. Thus, Walmart drove its own customer directly into the hands of that Walmart competitor.

Now, that's what I call an extremely stupid marketing mistake on Walmart's part... LOL...

291 posted on 02/16/2010 7:42:02 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: autumnraine

I find that Great Value pastas are fine, as are canned no salt added tomatoes are great, which I use to make my homemade marinara.

I tried a box of their corn flakes - not nearly as good as the name brand stuff, but passable.


292 posted on 02/16/2010 7:45:26 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Salvation
You were saying ...

It is basically the same food — say mustard as French’s Mustard — manufacturers just change the labels. I think we would be very surprised that when we buy something at WalMart — we are really getting the equivalent of the name brand product.

I've been in the business and have been a buyer and have worked with the manufacturers and I've found out that people are not getting the same product. That's not true for all things, across the board, but it's true for enough of them, that you'll find people who say that some generics that they've tried is garbage while others have tried others that are fine.

There are variations in the products and while the food is not spoiled or inedible, it is of lower quality. And people can tell the difference.

Now, talking about this from another angle -- this time as a consumer, which I am also -- and now that you've mentioned the mustard, I can comment on that one.

I've tried the Walmart brand mustard and the name-brand one -- and I'll tell you that there is a difference between them with the name-brand one being better. Now, that's just one particular product and I'm not saying that for the whole generic selection in the entire store. Not at all. But it is true for a significant number.

Another factor is also (for the consumer) -- "Is it good enough?" Sometimes it's not as good -- but -- "it's good enough" for me to save some money. So, consumers can tell that it's not quite "up to par" -- but, "it's good enough" for the money that I'm saving. There's always that factor in there, too.

293 posted on 02/16/2010 7:48:04 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Ted Grant; autumnraine
You were saying ...

I tried a box of their corn flakes - not nearly as good as the name brand stuff, but passable.

And what you just said there, is an example of what I said, just up above, that some consumers find that there is a difference and it's not as good -- but -- they say (in some cases) -- "it's good enough for the price difference"...

As I said, there is that factor in there, also.

294 posted on 02/16/2010 7:51:13 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SkyDancer

Haven’t tried their food, but my wife bought a box of “Great Value” Zip-lock clones. No seams at the bottom — put stuff in at the top, it fell out the bottom. She took them back and the manager gave her two boxes of them. One of them had no seams at the bottom, the other had one side open. No mas, no mas...


295 posted on 02/16/2010 7:53:30 PM PST by umbagi (Who is Jim Thompson?)
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, I agree. I was just pointing out that in some cases I don’t see a difference, and in other cases, I see a difference. Depends on the food.


296 posted on 02/16/2010 7:53:47 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
spices don’t retain their quality for that period of time

Sure they do - they just make after-shave out of it. It's called "Old Spice".

sorry...

297 posted on 02/16/2010 7:55:20 PM PST by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success)
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To: meyer
You were saying ...

Sometimes. I've not had good luck with the house brand soups that are supposed to be the same as campbells. Meat was very tough, and somewhat sparse. I bought some house-brand wheat crackers one time that were supposed to be the same as Triscuits - they weren't. Not horrible, but not nearly as good and the were all puffed up instead of flat like the real ones.c

Absolutely so... I can confirm that, as you say. I've tried them both... the soup and the Triscuits... :-)

It's as you say.

Some people who say that there is no difference between the no-name-brand and he name-brand -- probably have lost their taste buds and/or they have no sense of smell left either... LOL..

And apparently their tongues can't tell different textures... and so on...

I really don't know how some people can say that they're the same...

298 posted on 02/16/2010 7:56:20 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Ted Grant

Yep... it’s not all the same, across the board... it varies...


299 posted on 02/16/2010 7:57:04 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: umbagi

Yep... that’s how the retailer “saves money” on selling generics, all right... LOL...


300 posted on 02/16/2010 7:58:01 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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