Posted on 02/17/2010 12:52:50 PM PST by SmithL
EAST PALO ALTO, Calif. (AP) -- The three people killed on board a small plane that went down in a Northern California neighborhood were all employees of Tesla Motors Inc.
The twin-engine Cessna 310 crashed in a residential area of East Palo Alto on Wednesday morning after hitting some power lines. It had just taken off from Palo Alto Airport in heavy fog.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Wyatt Earp writes with news that a recent SEC filing from Tesla Motors revealed the company plans to stop production on its electric Roadster (and the Roadster Sport as well) in 2011. This will leave the automaker without any cars to sell until the launch of its Model S sedan (financed in part by $465 million in DoE loans) in 2012. Tesla plans to resume production of Roadster models “at least a year” after the Model S arrives. From Wired’s Autopia blog:
“’As a result, we anticipate that we may generate limited, if any, revenue from selling electric vehicles after 2011 until the launch of the planned model S,’ the company says in the SEC filing. That may not be a problem if S production starts on plan and goes off without a hitch, but if Tesla hits any snags, things could get ugly fast — a point it concedes in the filing.
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/31/1437210/Tesla-Motors-To-Suspend-Roadster-Production?from=rss
and here
http://gas2.org/2010/01/30/tesla-motors-ending-production-of-its-famed-roadster/
Why are three missed approaches a reason to tell war stories?
As for the ice, I know what a M 200D is. I have not seen one with deicing equipment.
You made the comment: Tesla motors is in deep trouble.
Lets see it. That should be pretty easy for you.
Thanks.
He referenced an SEC filing. Look it up for yourself.
Uh huh....Ya ought to watch what comments ya make...Somebody might just ask you to back it up. Like in this case.
I gave you 2 references. They both say the same thing. The article references an SEC filing. That’s good enough for me but apparently jackasses want it handed to them on a silver platter. Like I said, get off your ass and do your own research.
LOL....You can always tell when ya got someone backed into a corner.
I'm glad you pointed that out because I was going to say that the landing gear on that craft wouldn't hold up a cream puff let alone a twin engine airplane. In fact my first thought was, "That has to be a RC model!".
According to Silicon Alley Insider, the aircraft was owned by one of the company’s engineers. Both the CEO and CTO of Tesla are confirmed to be safe.
Doesn’t look like insurance fraud.
No, you're full o crap.
Come back? I didn’t think so.
One who shares that sentiment is Jeremy Anwyl, chief executive of Edmunds.com, parent of Green Car Advisor
Again, I have taken the time to read your blogs and extremely weak sources...
Edmunds.com?? lol...
You have yet to provide a normal, reliable news source. What you have posted are "blogs" and something called the "The green car adviser"....Get real.
You stated: Tesla motors is in deep trouble with their planned production.
I simply asked you for a *reliable* news source and you failed to back up your all your BS, and instead launched into a name calling fest. Hit a nerve did I?
Even the link you just provided is absolute speculation with words like "doubt" in it's headline:
*Some* Analysts Express *Doubts* About Tesla's Ability to Survive Next Several Years
Tell ya what junior, post some Wall Street article or other commonly accepted news sources showing, "Tesla motors is in deep trouble".
Here are a few comments from your source, and please note all of the words like, "If", "Maybe" "I have my doubts", "possibly", "Might"...
Look for yourself.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Then the question is," he said, "Can you be competitive at high volume with a car that's now going to be intensely competed against by everybody in the world? I have my serious doubts whether they can be profitable there, at least early."
He said that Tesla, which isn't speaking with the media regarding its IPO, possibly has an exit strategy that includes sale to another company. Ultimately, it might go public and then sell to Daimler. "Mercedes at some point might be a likely acquirer of the business," Cole said.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What is clear, is you appear to be a barking bucket mouth.
A good summary of all the issues. But, if you didn't already see my posting, I pulled up the location of the crash on Google Maps (got the address from another article), and it's just the other side of the power lines.
However, they apparently struck the power lines about 2000 feet southwest of the runway centerline -- if they took off to the northwest. They would have made a left turn very soon after takeoff.
If so, it's not clear (to me) if that left turn was intentional. If the owner was the pilot, I presume that he was familiar with the airport, and with the power lines. So, if he did have an engine failure, I wouldn't expect him to turn that direction while flying at Vmc.
The other possibility: they took off to the southeast, and were trying to make a circling approach to land again. But, I don't think that's likely, given the depicted trajectory of the wreckage (if it's accurate).
See the Google Map here:
Small plane down in East Palo Alto
I'm wondering if he had an unrecognized gyro failure.
Interesting story...Must have been slightly disturbing feeling grave danger, with the passengers being completely unaware of what was happening.
I found this link a short while ago.
http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_14416855?nclick_check=1
Read the entire article as down a ways a pilot who operates off that field describes the weather 100 and 1/8th and the noise abatement climb and turn to the right over the bay.
There is a map at the bottom with the take off direction and crash site indicated.
Looks like left engine failure very close to the ground, like maybe at 100 to 200 ft.
Artificial horizon failure could result in the same thing, but I suspect the engine.
Nice catch. I didn't know the departure procedure was a right turn. It makes sense, given the power lines.
That's the same map that I linked -- I think it was created by a Mercury News reporter and embedded in the article. I've also seen that map embedded in articles from other sources.
I suspect the engine as well. If he didn't react fast enough, he would have have turned left unintentionally.
(Disclaimer: I'm not rated for multi-engine flight)
RIP.
Like I said, all you have to do is pull up the SEC filing. You apparently don’t know how to do that. Tell your mommy you need some help with that.
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