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Ron Paul Wins Over the Tea Party Movement: Why Incumbents Should Worry
US News & World Report ^ | February 22, 2010 | Mary Kate Cary

Posted on 02/22/2010 6:28:24 PM PST by presidio9

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To: big'ol_freeper
Here is more on old so called honest Ron

Yes 73 million dollars in earmarks and this lefty from this David Gergen run left wing rag calls him a tea party leader. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,508604,00.html

61 posted on 02/22/2010 7:28:58 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Cicero

agreed - this means nothing


62 posted on 02/22/2010 7:29:26 PM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: presidio9

How about people who want to banish the IRS, banish the Fed Reserve (the dems favorite tool to pay for social programs), get us out of the U.N. (and the U.N. out of America), eliminate most or all firearms laws, eliminate all federal agencies/admins and cut the depts to the bone, eliminate the native born citizenship clause for illegals, defend our SOUTHERN border, draw down and eliminate all social welfare programs, eliminate welfare for illegals, etc. etc.

That’s Ron Paul and most of his supporters feel the same way. I guess those aren’t conservative ideas though, according to your line of logic.


63 posted on 02/22/2010 7:29:45 PM PST by dcgst4
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To: ChrisInAR

Ron Paul said it at a debate. Rudy Gulliani put him in his place so yes Ron Paul is a truther.


64 posted on 02/22/2010 7:30:49 PM PST by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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To: paltz
The point it, really, that everybody is freaking out over this straw poll as if Ron Paul is already the anointed 2012 GOP candidate, and the CPAC poll only gives the winner bragging rights not necessarily some long term primary win.

Correction: Bathtub Boy is freaking out. Matthews is freaking out. Maddow is freaking out. A couple of dozen columinsts that nobody ever heard of are freaking out. Ron Paul supporters are probably freaking out. I don't think any real conservatives gave it a second thought. The ones I heard from (who don't care) include Rush, Levin, Ingraham, Hannity, Bennett, Medved, Prager, Gibson, Hewitt, etc.

65 posted on 02/22/2010 7:31:03 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: ncalburt

There’s the earmark distortion again. The money is already taken from you by the feds! If it doesn’t get spent in your district, it goes into the “fund” and then you’ll never see it. (Though I’m guessing it goes into some pols pockets). Any pol that says they “never voted for an earmark” is just lying.


66 posted on 02/22/2010 7:34:42 PM PST by dcgst4
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To: presidio9
However, since you brought it up, liberaltarians in general overwhelmingly support a woman's so-called "right" to choose.

Agreed. So does the libertarian party. My point is that the libertarian philosophy is not limited to USA and if you go to its roots, you will see that anyone for liberty must necessarily oppose baby murder. On drug legalization, I was merely agreeing with the earlier post that the libertarians and conservatives differ on the issue.

I am with you on having scant respect for people who claim that they know babies have life and then do nothing about protecting such life.

I am all for smashing Islamofascists, but I find it hard to believe that those who support various Islamofascist dictators andonce hooked up with the bin Ladens actually oppose radical Islam. This doublespeak is a neocon game and not a paleoconservative idea.

67 posted on 02/22/2010 7:36:01 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: ChrisInAR

I’m sorry that you are legally blind (I’m also disabled), but the guy’s point was that Libertarains WHERE HE LIVED seemed to think Bush was behind 9/11, and you said “no we don’t.” He does not indicate where he’s posting from on his home page. He could be posting from Berkeley for all we know. So unless you happen to know him personally, and happen to live in the same place, your opinion is completely invalid.

BTW, I don’t give a crap about typos. Faulty logic is a different matter. Liberaltarianism is faulty logic come to life as a political philosophy.


68 posted on 02/22/2010 7:36:06 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: ChrisInAR

Seriously? You have one of the best “about” pages on FR! Good job, Buddy!


69 posted on 02/22/2010 7:36:21 PM PST by dcgst4
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To: dcgst4
Save the excuses for some one who care.

The man is fraud .

Ron has always loved his earmarks for HIS BUDDIES and this Lefty has the nerve to associates this scam artists with the TEA Party movement which is based on stopping reckless spending!

70 posted on 02/22/2010 7:37:29 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: presidio9

Indeed. Actually, I would say the libs you listed are attempting to freak out conservatives/republicans who are not Ron Paul supporters into thinking their movement is falling into the hands of the Ron Paul movement. This is the problem conservatives have now, because we are 2 years out from the next presidential election, and w/o any real idea of who can possibly beat Obama, liberals will attempt (not necessarily succeed at) to fill that vacuum for us.


71 posted on 02/22/2010 7:38:42 PM PST by paltz
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To: dcgst4

Thank you once again. Yes, it’s true.


72 posted on 02/22/2010 7:38:53 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: ncalburt

It’s not an excuse. The budget takes your money BEFORE it’s earmarked. They don’t vote for the earmarks before the budget. If your local rep doesn’t bring it back to your district, then your money goes to the “fund”. Would you rather your money be spent by pubbies on at least something that might be of use or doled out to dems for “social programs” (i.e. ACORN)?


73 posted on 02/22/2010 7:41:22 PM PST by dcgst4
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To: onyx

Multiple votes are allowed and the students manned the voting table(s).


Isn’t that normal for an election?.... LOL

Vote early, vote often or as many times as you can get paid to do so....


74 posted on 02/22/2010 7:41:36 PM PST by deport (TEXAS PRIMARY -- EARLY VOTING FEB 16 - 26..... Vote today.)
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To: presidio9
The entire Ron Paul thing was taken over by radical anti war lefties that used the old fool.

I saw Ron Paul events in SF and Sacramento and both were a pack of radical leftists uses this fool as a way to
get entry into the GOP events.

Read all about their strategy here.

http://original.antiwar.com/doug-bandow/2007/05/04/invasion-of-the-party-snatchers/

75 posted on 02/22/2010 7:41:51 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: dcgst4
Ron Paul is not a Tea Party supporter at all.
The man has been earmark happy for decades while talking out the otehrn side of his mouth.

The point is my kids will be paying off the debt racked up by Ron Paul for his budddies and the other crooks in Congress.
He is crook so stop following this fraud.

76 posted on 02/22/2010 7:45:17 PM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: presidio9

I’m sorry, what? did you say something? I was looking at your...eyes. yeah.


77 posted on 02/22/2010 7:47:21 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: beckysueb
Rudy Gulliani put him in his place so yes Ron Paul is a truther.

Even tho I personally am not a "truther", whatever happened to the important phrase made by Glenn Beck: "QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS"? Are there certain subjects that we are not supposed to talk about?

78 posted on 02/22/2010 7:48:39 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: JimWayne
My point is that the libertarian philosophy is not limited to USA and if you go to its roots, you will see that anyone for liberty must necessarily oppose baby murder.

Listen, I think libertarianism is for idiots, so it annoys me to have to explain it to you. But in the hopes of ending this conversation, I will.

The core libertarian philosophy has to be that it's only "baby murder" if you accept the fact that its a baby. If you think you have an inconvenient "blob of flesh" inside of you, its medical proceedure. If everybody but you believes its a baby, the government is still imposing on your life when it denies you an abortion. How can anybody else or the government impose their morality on you? Can they PROVE life begins at conception? Some forms of libertarianism claim to support life, but they are really paying lip service, or are too powerless within their own party to do anything worthwhile about it.

And, BTW, I could care less about the views of libertarian parties outside the US. They are even less meaningless than the ones Ron Paul confronts me with every four years.

I am all for smashing Islamofascists, but I find it hard to believe that those who support various Islamofascist dictators andonce hooked up with the bin Ladens actually oppose radical Islam.

You're dangerously close to tinfoil hat territory here. Most of the relationships you're talking about were pre-9/11. The dictators we're "supporting" now are a product of the fact that we can't sustain wars all over the globe at the same time.

79 posted on 02/22/2010 7:49:47 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: deport

LOL. Heretofore, I thought vote early and often was reserved for democrats, but I guess it applies to Paultards as well.


80 posted on 02/22/2010 7:50:03 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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