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Hidden Gas Source Could Speed Global Warming
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| March 4, 2010
| Gregory Mone
Posted on 03/05/2010 10:09:05 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Scientists have uncovered a powerful source of a leading greenhouse gas that is venting into the atmosphere at unprecedented rates. The permafrost beneath the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, a relatively shallow section of the Arctic Ocean, has been pumping 7.7 million tons of methane into the air each year -- roughly the amount released into the atmosphere by the rest of the world's oceans combined. But since scientists just discovered it, we don't know if it started last year, a century ago, or a million years ago. In short, just knowing it is there does not mean that anything different is going on from what has gone on, ever. They just know about it now.
No cause for panic, and certainly no ability to attribute any change which might occur in climate to it.
Maybe the 'marsh gas' would explain a few UFOs, though...
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:31:36 PM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: neverdem
What they don’t explain is how this organic material frozen in the permafrost got there in the first place. Obviously it was warm enough eons ago for the organic matter to be deposited there. In contrast, it was covered an ice sheet a mile thick not so long ago.
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:36:16 PM PST
by
kik5150
To: neverdem; SunkenCiv
In the past, atmospheric methane levels have varied between .3 and .7 parts per million. Currently, the numbers are up to 1.85 parts per million -- a 400,000-year high. Above the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, this figure is even greater. IIRC it has been at least 100,000-500,000 times higher in the past; the rest being mainly ammonia. Damned bacteria came along, contaminated the planet, and screwed up the balance. That gave all you Hooo-mons a nitrox mix, and there was nothing we could do about it, except retreat to Titan.
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:36:18 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(If God didn't want a One Worlder hanging from every tree, He wouldn't have created rope)
To: SunkenCiv
Also, IIRC, methane is ‘30 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO^2’, so, if they just lit a match there, 29/30 of the “problem” would be resolved!
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:41:08 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(If God didn't want a One Worlder hanging from every tree, He wouldn't have created rope)
To: smoothsailing
The IPCC will say this proves we have to speed up the surrender of liberty, sovereignty, and wealth in the industrialized world, or the planet will die next year...Entrepreneurs would figure out a way to make a profit from all that potential fuel. Just sayin'.
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:45:18 PM PST
by
carumba
(The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
To: neverdem
7.7 billion tons? Somebody check my math.
That sounds about like 240 trillion cu.ft. a year and we're still freezing our asses off.
How many cu. ft. per year do we need for utilities and industry just in the U.S.?
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:56:38 PM PST
by
stboz
To: neverdem
Something I posted years ago was how many coal seams are on fire and cannot be put out. Some have been burning for thousands of years, but in reality we don’t know if they have been burning for millions of years. The output of CO and CO2 is probably bigger than this methane leak many times over and has been there for eons. Why worry about my V8 truck if they don’t put out the fires?
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posted on
03/05/2010 11:58:30 PM PST
by
chuckles
To: neverdem
could...may...might...if... but keep giving us more grant money so we can keep an eye on this nonissue
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posted on
03/06/2010 12:06:36 AM PST
by
blueplum
To: neverdem
These people never give up. They’ll find some tiny, insignificant way to blame humans.
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posted on
03/06/2010 1:13:00 AM PST
by
wastedyears
(The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
To: wastedyears
You do understand the war is on. None of this garbage is based on “Science”. It is based on public perception. Hell, if it was based on science these bastards wouldn’t give a damn what comes out of Washington. Watch Tesla’s bio and see where 3 different nations stole his works when he died.
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posted on
03/06/2010 1:18:31 AM PST
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: eyedigress
Thing is they need to be forced into an academic corner for the entire world to see what frauds they are.
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posted on
03/06/2010 1:24:52 AM PST
by
wastedyears
(The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
To: wastedyears
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posted on
03/06/2010 1:36:18 AM PST
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: neverdem
Quick! Everyone into a Prius before the world burns up!
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posted on
03/06/2010 1:45:24 AM PST
by
OrangeHoof
("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
To: OrangeHoof
This from Monday on top of ol' smokey.
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posted on
03/06/2010 1:51:06 AM PST
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: freekitty
"With lots of illegal and stolen grant money."Crime does pay depending on who you are.
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posted on
03/06/2010 2:26:42 AM PST
by
blackbart.223
(I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
To: neverdem
“Hidden Gas Source Could Speed Global Warming”
That’s the only piece of good news concerning the weather that I’ve read this whole, long, cold winter.
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posted on
03/06/2010 2:46:38 AM PST
by
Iron Munro
(God is great, Beer is good, People are crazy)
To: neverdem
"But she and other scientists will be monitoring that icy hot spot for years to come."Depends on how long they are able to shake research grants out of the government money tree.
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posted on
03/06/2010 2:49:32 AM PST
by
Fresh Wind
("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
To: neverdem
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posted on
03/06/2010 2:50:56 AM PST
by
bmwcyle
(Free the Navy Seals)
To: ApplegateRanch
if they just lit a match there, 29/30 of the problem would be resolved!And Siberia would be a warmer place.
To: neverdem
“Natalia Shakhova”
Let me ask you something, Ms. Shakhova. Were you raised and educated in a place that conditions the minds of school students to believe that it is up to government to break and to fix everything for us? Are you one of these immigrants to America who is already accustomed to seeing the government as your “daddy” and “uncle,” and really you wouldn’t really mind if America were to bcomne the same way?
Hey Natalia, we don’t appreciate at all the immigrants that came from the Eastern Block, join the environmentalist movement and use these tactics to drag the failed philosophies and policies over from the old country. Got that?
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