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Changes in ObamaCare will require businesses to count part-time workers for coverage penalties
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/09/changes-in-obamacare-will-require-businesses-to-count-part-time-workers-for-coverage-penalties/ ^

Posted on 03/09/2010 2:43:44 PM PST by chessplayer

Much of the focus on the stalled ObamaCare effort comes from the opposition of Blue Dog Democrats to the removal of the Stupak amendment in the Senate bill, allowing for federal abortion funding if Congress fails to renew the Hyde Amendment. The rest of the attention has gone to the changes being made in a parallel bill, one that the Senate will use reconciliation to pass to resolve disputes between the House and Senate over taxation and budgeting. Those aren’t the only changes being contemplated, however, as the AP reports:

"A Democratic aide says a new provision in the health care bill will require businesses to count part-time workers when calculating penalties for failing to provide coverage."

"The bill originally passed by the Senate only penalized businesses for full-time workers who weren’t covered. The Senate bill is being used as the basis for a final package President Barack Obama wants Congress to pass in the next few weeks."


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Small town newspapers gonna have to provide health coverage for paper boys/girls?
1 posted on 03/09/2010 2:43:44 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
"will require businesses to count part-time workers when calculating penalties for failing to provide coverage."

I.E. A tax grab for businesses that hire extra help during the Christmas season.

2 posted on 03/09/2010 2:47:25 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: chessplayer

Kick Rat keister out to the street.


3 posted on 03/09/2010 2:47:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: chessplayer
Not a big deal. Don't hire them as part-time employees. Engage them as independent contractors. Issue a 1099 at the end of the year. No hassle. Don't have to pay employer taxes. The contractor pays all employment taxes, employer and employee, at the end of the year.

Just pay them a little more to compensate for the higher tax they will pay.

4 posted on 03/09/2010 2:48:44 PM PST by george123
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“””””Not a big deal. Don’t hire them as part-time employees. Engage them as independent contractors. Issue a 1099 at the end of the year. No hassle. Don’t have to pay employer taxes. The contractor pays all employment taxes, employer and employee, at the end of the year.

Just pay them a little more to compensate for the higher tax they will pay. “”””””

That is illegal. It won’t work.


5 posted on 03/09/2010 2:50:01 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: chessplayer

Nutsy Pelousy sez to get this monstrosity passed so we’ll all know what’s in it!


6 posted on 03/09/2010 2:50:59 PM PST by IbJensen ((Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: shelterguy

Why is it illegal?


7 posted on 03/09/2010 2:52:32 PM PST by george123
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To: chessplayer

This does not matter because it is not the original Senate bill the House will have to vote on. Obama will then sign the Senate bill.

The things mentioned in the article have to be on a separate bill to come later.


8 posted on 03/09/2010 2:53:58 PM PST by racing fan
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To: racing fan

Also the Senate may never approve this new bill.


9 posted on 03/09/2010 2:55:44 PM PST by racing fan
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To: george123

The days of calling employees “independent contractors” are over.

In order for someone to be an independent contractor they need a federal tax id number, their own comp and liability insurance and need to fulfill a number of other requirements.
If you get audited, which you will since it is a big fundraiser for the government nowadays, they will go back 7 years and charge you for SS withholding, State withholding, workers comp insurance and unemployment insurance taxes. You will most likely go out of business and since these obligations can’t disappear with bankruptcy you will be broke personally also. I’ve had several competitors disappear due to these audits.


10 posted on 03/09/2010 2:58:52 PM PST by shelterguy
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“In order for someone to be an independent contractor they need a federal tax id number, their own comp and liability insurance and need to fulfill a number of other requirements.”

Is that only in certain states? Lots of 1099 activity here and I doubt many of them have done all that.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 3:05:59 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: george123

BAD IDEA....there is an IRS checklist of some 12+ requirements to classify someone as an independent/sub contractor instead of an employee. If you are ever called up on audit (and declared subs often FLAGS you for audit), you’ll get SLAMMED by the IRS for classifying subs as employees if you FAIL only ONE ITEM on their checklist.

Can you say “penalties, interest,” or perhaps “jail time” and “loss of your business?”

Remember, with the IRS, you are guilty until proven innocent and the burden of proof is ALWAYS on you.


12 posted on 03/09/2010 3:07:19 PM PST by Mister Muggles (.Seattle: A city full of Liberal men with vaginas.)
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To: Mister Muggles
Remember, with the IRS, you are guilty until proven innocent and the burden of proof is ALWAYS on you.

And IRS employee's are in shock, SHOCK! when folks fly planes into their buildings.

13 posted on 03/09/2010 3:14:10 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: chessplayer

“Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
Rep. John S. Tanner 202-225-4714 Jackson office: 731-423-4848
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131

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14 posted on 03/09/2010 3:27:52 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Michael Barnes

Why do you think this administration is training IRS agents in paramilitary SWAT like techniques?


15 posted on 03/09/2010 4:18:35 PM PST by Mister Muggles (.Seattle: A city full of Liberal men with vaginas.)
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To: chessplayer
Hot Air
16 posted on 03/09/2010 6:13:44 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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