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Panel unamious; it will pass
Fox News Special | Bert

Posted on 03/18/2010 4:04:19 PM PDT by bert

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To: kevao

Then I’m right once it becomes law, after he signs, he doesn’t have to send it for reconciliation. It will simply be the law as it stands.


201 posted on 03/18/2010 6:09:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

That’s right. In fact, that’s the whole reason for the Slaughter Rule. It’s the only way the House can simultaneously send the Senate bill to Obama and a reconciliation bill back to the Senate.

Many House dems are afraid that once the Senate version becomes law, the Senate will have no interest in taking up the fixer-up reconciliation bill sent by the House.

Who knows better than a Rat that a Rat cannot be trusted?


202 posted on 03/18/2010 6:15:00 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Tuxedo

It’s going to be a long, hot summer.


203 posted on 03/18/2010 6:17:42 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: caww

yes and if no reconciliation, the nay rats are screwed


204 posted on 03/18/2010 6:18:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: kevao
.....”House dems are afraid that once the Senate version becomes law, the Senate will have no interest in taking up the fixer-up reconciliation bill sent by the House”....

So lets say Slaughter works for them and it stops with Bo's signature and is then Law. What then is to stop them from doing this with the amnesty bill...cap and trade...and all the others? It would seem they could ram their whole agenda thru this way?

205 posted on 03/18/2010 6:21:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

There is nothing to stop them from pushing amnesty, cap’n’tax, etc. through via Slaughter.

However, we now have 41 votes in the Senate. So getting new legislation through should be more difficult for the dems. But, true to form, there will be GOP defectors. Either of the dingbats from Maine can be turned and, of course, when amnesty is on the agenda, we’ll have our old friends McCain and Graham leading the way.


206 posted on 03/18/2010 6:30:45 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Galtoid
Anything Krauthammer says lately (or for the last nine months) has been sour, depressing, and so wonkish that I have lost all respect for him. He has lived in DC for waaaayyy too long. Everything on the panel lately is about “the process.” It’s all about Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Hoyer. CK needs to flat out retire. He does our side no good.

I gave up on all of FOX News shows during the 2008 primaries. The so called panels on at 6:00pm are also a joke.. Fox News is strictly a pagent talking heads network with very little actual new substance anymore. As well it is NEOCON Central on what little conservatism is talked about there.

Bret himself might be ok if he would just do a one hour news cast. Then after him is Shep whom I can't even stand to see much listen too, then On The Fence Factor about to fall liberal O'Rielly, then Rudybot Neocon Hanity, then Gretta? No thanks.

Fox News died several years ago after itr's revamping. I now read the news on the net and if it's breaking news I will turn on the TV to CNN to get the basics. After CNN back off it goes or to something like RFD TV.

FOX NEWS does have some good field and foreign reporters. It's sad they get but a few seconds to give news and the talking heads take up the rest.

207 posted on 03/18/2010 6:33:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: torchthemummy

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.

- P. J. O’Rourke


208 posted on 03/18/2010 6:38:42 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: bert

My husband and I are going Friday and staying through Sunday. We can’t afford this trip, but we feel that this is just too important to sit home and watch this pass. We have to try to change their minds.


209 posted on 03/18/2010 6:42:17 PM PDT by publana (Obama, you will not intimidate me into not voicing my opinions.)
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To: publana

Don’t worry about the money. There is no way to evaluate how will change your life.

It may very well prove to be among the most memorable and important experiences of a lifetime. I very much wish I could be there as well but my DC FReeping days are probably over


210 posted on 03/18/2010 6:54:52 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: kevao

It is very dscouraging of heart seeing our rules in congress be manipulated as is happening. I am so grateful the Republicans have stood fast as a block....regardless that this is not yet strong enough to crush this beast...but I am not giving in until they actually have it passed...small things can sometimes sink ships so I will wait and continue to hope the republicans have something up their sleeve unexpected......if a stone took Goliath down in the hand of a youngster...nothing is impossible.


211 posted on 03/18/2010 7:06:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: kevao

It is very dscouraging of heart seeing our rules in congress be manipulated as is happening. I am so grateful the Republicans have stood fast as a block....regardless that this is not yet strong enough to crush this beast...but I am not giving in until they actually have it passed...small things can sometimes sink ships so I will wait and continue to hope the republicans have something up their sleeve unexpected......if a stone took Goliath down in the hand of a youngster...nothing is impossible.


212 posted on 03/18/2010 7:07:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: deport
There was no vote to suspend the rules. There was a vote to suspend the constitution, you know, the part that says a bill must be voted on by both houses in order to become law? That part of the constitution, remember it?

The slaughter rule is far worse than a simple "rule" violation.

213 posted on 03/18/2010 7:59:45 PM PDT by calex59
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To: BARLF

Show me too! I am praying my heart out. :)


214 posted on 03/18/2010 10:09:13 PM PDT by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: mlizzy

Absolutely. I believe in miracles and sometimes our prayers are not answered right then for a reason. We’ll keep praying though and trust in the Lord.


215 posted on 03/18/2010 10:11:19 PM PDT by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: calex59

Out of curiosity, what happens when the Executive and the Legislative vote to suspend the Constitution (as they have done IMO). The Supreme Court declares it “unconstitutional?” Seems a president said, “the Supreme Court made their finding, now let them enforce it.”

The only hope becomes the armed forces. But the Chiefs of Staff are generally weak weinies. And, assuming certain generals do conclude that they must honor their oath, and others don’t, how do you avoid chaos in the armed forces?

And, since the branches of the armed forces are compartmentalized as they are, again how do you avoid chaos?


216 posted on 03/18/2010 10:15:09 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: kevao
"Stevens wrote the majority opinion in Kelo."

He did. But, he also wrote the majority opinion in NY vs. Clinton, where O'Conner and Breyer were the only full dissenters.

Scalia was also a partial dissenter, but for reasons other than the constitutional infirmity of the line item veto.

Stevens has shown himself to be - at times - a somewhat principled jurist with respect to Art. I, Sec's 5 & 7.

217 posted on 03/20/2010 10:28:08 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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