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ObamaCare Vote Kickback Scheme
Bismarck Tribune ^ | March 19 2010 | ALAN FRAM and DAVID ESPO

Posted on 03/19/2010 4:45:39 AM PDT by clifcrds

WASHINGTON — Bye bye, Cornhusker Kickback. Hello, special treatment for Tennessee and North Dakota.

Democrats unveiling revisions Thursday to their health care overhaul bill decided to kill the extra $100 million in Medicaid funds for Nebraska that has become a symbol of backdoor deal making.

But the 153 pages of changes to the massive health care package include extra money for hospitals in Tennessee that serve large numbers of low-income patients. And though the bill would revamp the nation’s student loan system to make the government the only lender, one bank — the state-owned Bank of North Dakota — would be allowed to continue making student loans.

That provision ended up rubbing Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., the wrong way. Fearing it would become a target by Republicans in what he said is “an overly heated partisan environment,” he asked the House late Thursday to remove it from the legislation.

To help win the vote of Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., the massive measure the Senate passed on Christmas Eve had included $100 million that only Nebraska would get in added federal Medicaid assistance.

Immediately mocked as the Cornhusker Kickback, critics called it the epitome of special Washington dealing, and even Nelson advocated ending his state’s special treatment. Under the changes announced Thursday, the Nebraska provision would be deleted and all states would get additional Medicaid help from Washington.

Also eliminated from the Senate measure was a provision allowing about 800,000 elderly Floridians to keep enhanced Medicare benefits that are being cut for residents of other states.

(Excerpt) Read more at bismarcktribune.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska; US: North Dakota; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: americans4prosperity; kochbrothers; nebraska; northdakota; obama; obamacare; pomeroy; romney; romneycare; tennessee
Isn't this interesting . . . the Commiecrats (I no longer refer to them as Democrats) use bribes and kickbacks as an excuse to vote for ObamaCare, wait to see what the politcal fallout will be, and then if the taxpayers voice too much outrage one of their comrades will remove the quid pro quo payment and claim "no harm / no foul".

Nice attempt at CYA but you can't "unring" a bell. The damage has already been done. The Commiecrats know this but still believe we Americans are that stupid.

If anything this taxpayer funded vote buying scheme should tech us one thing . . . this November a vote for a Democrat is a vote for Socilism and the death of America as we now know it!

1 posted on 03/19/2010 4:45:39 AM PDT by clifcrds
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To: rwrcpa1; molybdenum; Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; ...

CBO releases [false] numbers- UNDER one trillion ($940 billion)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2473723/posts
Mark Levin interviewed a brilliant congressman — Pence if I recall? Pence is talking with the CBO. They are only allowed to process what junk the majority party places before them.

There’s another trillion dollars buried, delayed, and/or reshuffled [such as Doc-Fix]. Pence will be coming up with a more accurate picture. Further, it’s ten years of new taxes to fund only six years of reform.

JustPiper with the latest:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1161#1161
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1167#1167
[The second one has video of protesters]

Protests this weekend:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1178#1178

Focus on Obamacare bribes / backroom deals:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1191#1191


2 posted on 03/19/2010 4:50:42 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: clifcrds

Filing this in ...

THUG-O-CRAT hit list [shocking links and headlines]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464640/posts?page=4

and ...

Obama-nomics link-list
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464021/posts


3 posted on 03/19/2010 4:53:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: clifcrds
Kill the Bill Mega Rally at the Capitol, noon Saturday until ???

Note the walking-distance metro stop. Park anywhere and ride the metro in.

Or drive around the Capitol and gridlock traffic while honking thousand of car horns.

4 posted on 03/19/2010 4:56:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: clifcrds

While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

‘Welcome to heaven,’ says St. Peter. ‘Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.’

‘No problem, just let me in,’ says the man.

‘Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.’

‘Really, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,’ says the senator.

‘I’m sorry, but we have our rules.’

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening Dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who
Has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

‘Now it’s time to visit heaven.’

So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

‘Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.’

The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: ‘Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but
I think I would be better off in hell.’

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in the middle of a
barren land covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. ‘I don’t understand,’ stammers the senator. ‘Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.
What happened?’

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, ‘Yesterday we were campaigning.. .

Today you voted.’


5 posted on 03/19/2010 5:01:26 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: clifcrds
Democrats unveiling revisions Thursday to their health care overhaul bill decided to kill the extra $100 million in Medicaid funds for Nebraska that has become a symbol of backdoor deal making.

According to our local news this morning, Chuck Shumer is working on a deal that would get NY 90% financing for their medicaid by 2014. It appears all the liberal state's will get a free ride in the end, and the conservative states are going to end up footing the cost of the massive Death Care Welfare bill.

Some animals are more equal than others.

6 posted on 03/19/2010 5:09:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All

I am assuming IF the House approves the bill it has to go back to the Senate, correct?


7 posted on 03/19/2010 5:23:18 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Eye of Unk

Awesome...funny..and so TRUE!

(which kind of makes it not funny really-but you catch my drift!)

SZQ


8 posted on 03/19/2010 5:35:08 AM PDT by homegroan (*Vote Kitteh & Squirrel 2012*!....ILLIGITIMA NON CARBORUNDUM..... -that's 4U Dad!))
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To: clifcrds
this November a vote for a Democrat is a vote for Socilism and the death of America as we now know it!

That would be a great campaign slogan!

9 posted on 03/19/2010 5:36:49 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Eye of Unk

Good one!


10 posted on 03/19/2010 5:39:07 AM PDT by unkus
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To: clifcrds

Congress and executive branch have become a criminal enterprise. Makes me sick to my stomach.


11 posted on 03/19/2010 5:50:17 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: clifcrds
Democrats unveiling revisions Thursday to their health care overhaul bill decided to kill the extra $100 million in Medicaid funds for Nebraska that has become a symbol of backdoor deal making.

It is also proof that once they have your vote, a deal is expendable. This should be broadcast to every fence sitter and recent flip out there. "You WILL be screwed."

12 posted on 03/19/2010 5:50:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: clifcrds
Can anyone explain this? As far as I understand it, the student loan bill passed the house; however, the Senate had still not voted on it. How can it become a law if the Senate still has not voted on it? Unless, this is a different student loan bill that passed the Senate that I was not aware of.

Either way, student loans have nothing to do with health care; and the entire thing is a farce.

13 posted on 03/19/2010 5:58:40 AM PDT by erikm88
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To: Travis McGee
Check your state chapter to see if you can catch a bus ride to DC tomorrow

Americans for Prosperity

14 posted on 03/19/2010 6:03:35 AM PDT by SuperSonic (The Silent Majority should remain silent no longer!)
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To: clifcrds

“And though the bill would revamp the nation’s student loan system to make the government the only lender, one bank — the state-owned Bank of North Dakota — would be allowed to continue making student loans.

That provision ended up rubbing Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., the wrong way. Fearing it would become a target by Republicans in what he said is “an overly heated partisan environment,” he asked the House late Thursday to remove it from the legislation. “

Man, what a trooper!!!!


15 posted on 03/19/2010 6:08:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Eye of Unk

That is FANTASTIC!


16 posted on 03/19/2010 6:13:33 AM PDT by agrace
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To: clifcrds
If the Cornhusker deal is “out” does anyone know if Mutual of Omaha will still be exempt from the tax all other health insurance companies will have to pay?
17 posted on 03/19/2010 6:14:46 AM PDT by swamprebel
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To: clifcrds
I must say, for a bill from the Senate that they must vote on unaltered, there sure is a lot of negotiating new terms going on.

-PJ

18 posted on 03/19/2010 6:18:27 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: agrace

I saw it posted in a Craigslist political forum this morning and I thought it was worth posting here.

Of course one can say its nothing...

But who in the end will we answer to?

Heaven or Hell?

I truly hope in some way or fashion this is read by those voting for the Healthcare Reform.


19 posted on 03/19/2010 6:27:23 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: clifcrds

Keep praying. Pray that the Lord will shed light in dark places and bring unseen things to light!


20 posted on 03/19/2010 6:28:49 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Excellent! A keeper!


21 posted on 03/19/2010 6:29:46 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (New Wizard of Oz: Pelosi as the Wicked Witch of the West & Michelle as the Wicked Witch of the East.)
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To: clifcrds

What we are seeing is the “Chicago way of doing things” on a national scale. Obama and and his hatchetmen, Rahm and Axelrod are using bribery and intimidation just like they did in Chicago. Al Capone would be proud of the thugocracy now in the White House.


22 posted on 03/19/2010 7:02:44 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: clifcrds

If you can’t go to DC, then go to their local offices, or hold street corner rallies in front of a nursing home, or SS office. Be sure to put your signs on sticks you can then rest on, hands will cramp. Take photos, call media, talk radio, program them into your phones. Take a supply of magic markers, and a bull horn if you have access to one. Hit the Medicare cut & gut theme..nothing like mad grannies and gramps. VA Cuts, taxes on special needs kids...35 new taxes.

Pass it on! There is $500 BILLION in Cuts to Medicare, SS, Huge fees for Tricare for Life, the over 65 retired Military’s health ins. 8% cuts to Medicare benefits, 15% cuts to nursing homes, cuts to in home nursing care of Medicare patients. 35 NEW taxes to be collected for 4 years BEFORE the health care promised goes into effect! Even a tax on Special Needs Kids, like Jerry’s Kids.

Call all your Reps today.........raise as much noise about the Medicare cut & Gut to give illegals FREE health care and our jobs as you can...it’s CRUNCH TIME to save the soul of America. He’s now promising LaRaza free health care for illegals and more jobs.

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan
http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Repeal Obamacare? Unlikely

OBAMA PROPOSAL THREATENS TO DENY SENIOR CITIZENS ABILITY TO USE OWN MONEY TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES
http://www.nrlc.org/press_releases_new/Release022210b.html

http://townhall.com/columnists/DavidHarsanyi/2010/03/10/repeal_obamacare_unlikely
Obama spent last week campaigning for health care reform, at one point getting some college-age fans worked up about all the free stuff — “free” preventive care and “free” checkups and so forth — they would receive if his version of health care reform passed.

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011367936_walgreens18m.html
Survey in New England Journal of Medicine Says 46% of US Doctors Will Quit If Obamacare Passes

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2798380/shocking_survey_in_new_england_journal.html?cat=75

CBO: Obamacare Would Cost Over $2 Trillion
Weekly Standard ^ | March 18, 2010 | Jeffrey Anderson

Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:02:44 PM

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbo-obamacare-would-cost-over-2-trillion

The numbers are also listed on Rush’s page.

Here is one of the ones he gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!

Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

They may have busied it out, or we overloaded it. Regular numbers are busy too.

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)

1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Defeat Obamacare call list: Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS

Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!

Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/

Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

RUSH says to pressure these 2

Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740

Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944

New FLIPPERS

Rep. Bart Gordon TN 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986, 931-528-5907, 615-451-5174

Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407

Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,

Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871

Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914

Fax: 527-5748

Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308 Fax (202)225-5745

James Oberstar MN (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234

Gabrielle Giffords AZ (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 8th District

John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448

Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783

rec’d from NCTeaParty.com — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.

Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th

http://shuler.house.gov/ DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email: hayden.rogers@mail.house.gov

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699

Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295

John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)

Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131

Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District

Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District

Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District

John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District

Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District

Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District

Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District

Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District

Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District

Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District

Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District

Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District

John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District

Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District

James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District

Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District

Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District

Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District

Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District

Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District

Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District

Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District

Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District

Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District

John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District

Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District

Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District

Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District

Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)

Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)

senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE

Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,

Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

Congressional Dems on Twitter

http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.

At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!

1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351


23 posted on 03/19/2010 7:18:12 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Perdogg

“I am assuming IF the House approves the bill it has to go back to the Senate, correct?”

As I understand it, it might be sent straight to the president’s desk for signing. According to one school of thought, Pelosi is tricking her fellow rats.


24 posted on 03/19/2010 8:11:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The Senate bill which the House is about the “deem” passed will go straight to Zero for signature. Simultaneously, the reconciliation bill they’ve cobbled together and had scored by the CBO goes to the Senate for, they hope, its approval.

Why the Senate would even want to touch the House reconciliation bill when their bill is about to be signed into law, is beyond me. I doubt they will.


25 posted on 03/19/2010 8:19:03 AM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao

Right, except for this:

” ...and had scored by the CBO ...”

Unless something changed since last night, CBO said clearly that they lack information to fully score. They can only estimate. Pence is the name to watch for on the real cost.


26 posted on 03/19/2010 8:29:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Yes, instead of scored, I should have said “scored.”


27 posted on 03/19/2010 8:38:32 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

All this bribery should be on the front page of the NY Slimes.


28 posted on 03/19/2010 8:45:30 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: All

Undecided
Jason Altmire (Pa.) * (N) Sounding more like a no than he was last week. On March 16, Altmire told Fox Business Network that he has major problem with Democrats’ apparent “deem and pass” strategy, calling it “wrong.”

Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told McClatchy Newspaperrs he is targeting Altmire, who many view as key to passage. Voted no in committee and on floor, but bottom line is his yes vote is gettable

Brian Baird (Wash.) (N) Retiring member who bucked party on Iraq war surge. Another target of Clyburn

Melissa Bean (Ill.) (Y) Conservative Democrat well-positioned for midterm election

Shelley Berkley (Nev.) (Y) Told Politico she does not like the Senate bill

Sanford Bishop Jr. (Ga.) * (Y) Favors Stupak provision

Tim Bishop (N.Y.) (Y) Must-have vote for leadership. Bishop’s office told CNN that the New York lawmaker wants major changes to Senate bill. Voted yes in March 15 Budget Committee markup

Michael Capuano (Y) Wanted to be a senator, but doesn’t trust the Senate. TPM reported that Capuano is leaning no. In an e-mail to supporters, Capuano said he has many problems with Senate measure

Dennis Cardoza (Calif.) * (Y) Secured language for district before last year’s vote

Jim Cooper (Tenn.) * (Y) Has had up-and-down relationship with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)

Jim Costa (Calif.) * (Y) Secured project for his district before November vote

Henry Cuellar (Texas) * (Y) Cuellar backs Stupak language but undecided. Cuellar’s vote has been one of rampant speculation, but the office told The Daily Caller he is undecided. Under pressure from Speaker and the president, Cuellar backed the climate change bill and House healthcare measure last year.

Kathy Dahlkemper (Pa.) * (Y) GOP target. Her yes vote could be key to passage. Strong backer of Stupak language

Brad Ellsworth (Ind.) * (Y) In what could be a bad sign for Democrats, Ellsworth missed the vote on March 18 when Democrats moved to table GOP resolution condemning “deem and pass” strategy. Ten Democrats, many of them no votes on health reform, voted with the GOP on that roll call. Ellsworth made every other vote on March 18. Senate hopeful is big supporter of Stupak language. Told the AP he won’t be swayed by arm-twisting by the president

Bob Etheridge (N.C.) * (Y) Told McClatchy he’s undecided. Said, “When North Carolina families are hurting, doing nothing really isn’t an option for me.” Voted yes in Budget Committee markup on March 15

Bill Foster (Ill.) (Y) GOP target

Marcia Fudge (Ohio) (Y) Fudge is undecided, according to wkyc.com. Obama lobbying for her vote, giving her a ride on Air Force One on March 15

John Hall (N.Y.) (Y) Democratic leaders may lose other Dems from N.Y., but need to keep Hall on board

Debbie Halvorson (Ill.) (Y) Politically vulnerable, but favored to win her reelection race

Paul Kanjorski (Pa.) * (Y) GOP target. Also voted with education reform bill that will move with healthcare reform in reconciliation

Marcy Kaptur (Ohio) * (Y) Voted with leadership first time around, but doesn’t toe the party line. Wants Stupak language but that’s not a deal breaker. Voted yes during Budget Committee markup. Likely to move to lean yes category soon

Mary Jo Kilroy (Ohio) (Y) In toss-up race this November
Ron Kind (Wis.) (Y) Represents competitive district. Voted against bill in committee

Ron Klein (Fla.) (Y) GOP target

Suzanne Kosmas (Fla.) (N) President Obama urges her to vote yes in the Oval Office, according to March 16 AP report

Jerry McNerney (Calif.) (Y) Waiting for final language. There are false reports of him being a firm no

Harry Mitchell (Ariz.) (Y) In bad sign for the Democratic leaders, Mitchell voted with Republicans March 18 on motion to condemn “deem and pass” strategy. GOP target. His spokesperson told The Hill: “The Congressman had some concerns with the Senate bill and will look over reconciliation to see how it impacts the Senate bill.”

Alan Mollohan (W.Va.) * (Y) In November, seat was considered safe. Now, he’s in a tight race

Chris Murphy (Conn.) (Y) GOP target

Scott Murphy (N.Y.) (N) President Obama urges Murphy to vote yes in Oval Office meeting, according to March 16 AP report. Reelection race looks good, for now. Told local media he might vote yes

Richard Neal (Mass.) * (Y) Better vote yes if he wants to take Ways and Means gavel; fan of Stupak language

Glenn Nye (Va.) (N) In toss-up race

Solomon Ortiz (Texas) * (Y) Was a late yes last time around

Bill Owens (N.Y.) (Y) One of first votes in Congress was yes on House health bill; media reports have him as undecided

Tom Perriello (Va.) * (Y) His vote is anyone’s guess. Took a step toward a yes by endorsing Senate abortion language on March 16, but then voted with GOP on condemning the “deem and pass” strategy of Democratic leaders. In toss-up race this fall; Pelosi had long talk with the Virginia Democrat on March 10 on the House floor

Earl Pomeroy (N.D.) * (Y) Voted against bill in committee, and for it on the House floor

Ciro Rodriguez (Texas) * (Y) Considered by Cook Political Report to “likely” retain seat

Bobby Rush (Ill.) (Y) Surprise addition to this list. Said he was undecided on March 18. The Hill reported that Rush engaged in several discussions with leadership lawmakers after announcing his position. Concerned about bill’s impact on hospitals in poor areas. Still, liberal congressman is a likely yes. Rush defeated Barack Obama in 2000 House primary

John Salazar (Colo.) * (Y) GOP target

Loretta Sanchez (Calif.) (Y) Was a late yes in November
Kurt Schrader (Ore.) (Y) Budget Committee member didn’t vote during March 15 markup. In competitive reelection race.
Zack Space (Ohio) * (Y) Voted yes in committee and yes on the floor last year

Adam Smith (Wash.) (Y) Was a late yes in November

John Tanner (Tenn.) * (N) House deputy whip not running for reelection, but he still will need to be convinced to get to yes. Voted no in committee and on floor

Dina Titus (Nev.) (Y) Her office told The Hill the congresswoman is undecided. Voted no in committee and yes on the floor last year

Paul Tonko (N.Y.) (Y) Waiting for Congressional Budget Office numbers


29 posted on 03/19/2010 8:51:32 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Yeah. That rag makes good bird cage liner.


30 posted on 03/19/2010 8:53:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: clifcrds

31 posted on 03/19/2010 9:05:13 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: concerned about politics

How is THIS (and so many other things in this bill) not considered DISCRIMINATION (against those who don’t live in NY)?

I’ve read that this bill specifically gives illegal residents free healthcare and specifically says they do not have to pay taxes on it!!!! That is discrimination against citizens of this country!

These are just 2 of many, many things that INFURIATE ME!


32 posted on 03/19/2010 10:11:18 AM PDT by a real Sheila (A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets ~ (Titanic))
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To: SuperSonic
The vote is Sunday.
Can we organize a Twitter Flash Mob, storm the capital, surround it on Saturday with say, a HALF MILLION OR MORE ANGRY PEOPLE, and prevent those congress critters from entering (or exiting) the capitol?
WOULD THEY send in swat teams and turn it into Tianemen’s Square?
33 posted on 03/19/2010 10:14:01 AM PDT by a real Sheila (A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets ~ (Titanic))
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