Posted on 03/23/2010 12:03:34 PM PDT by AIM Freeper
Last November we noted that, through the Stupak amendment, the Catholic Bishops guaranteed passage of Obamacare through the House of Representatives. The Bishops put on a big show this time around, saying that they were opposed to the House passing the Senate health care bill without similar Stupak language. In the end, Stupak, a "pro-life Catholic Democrat," made a deal, once again guaranteeing passage of the bill in the House. It's difficult to believe the Bishops were not in on it.
This is because, as we also revealed in late January, a personal representative of the Bishops explained during a conference call in favor of health care legislation and "comprehensive immigration reform" that it was all about money. Kevin Appleby, director of the Bishops' Office of Migration Policy and Public Affairs, said the Bishops wanted a national health care plan funded by taxpayers to pick up the costs associated with covering the illegal aliens coming to the Catholic hospitals.
It's impossible to believe, in the final analysis, that Stupak betrayed the Bishops. Catholic Church lobbyists were working hand-in-glove with Stupak from the start.
Even as they were issuing press releases insisting that the bill had to be more pro-life, the Bishops were reiterating that they have been for national health legislation all along and that they wanted to see it changed to cover more immigrants. "Universal coverage should be truly universal," they said. In other words, they wanted it to be more expansive and expensive. They don't think Obama and the Democrats went far enough!
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The Bishops at least insisted on keeping the thin pro-life veneer. Stupak sold out for an EO, by definition written on toilet paper, that even the Bishops said was unacceptable.
I’m sure they think it would be nice to have universal care. What are they or their church personally doing about the issue of limited care besides badgering the government to steal from all?
I think recent events have demonstrated that this is not true. As evidenced by the fact that this bill passed without the Stupak amendment, there is no reason to believe that it would not also have passed in November if Pelosi had held firm and squeezed Stupak's very small testicles back then as well.
National Right to Life, NRTL, bullied the House Republicans in November to vote for Stupak. As a result, HC passed the House. Without NRTL the House would have fought over HC till Christmas.
The NRTL organization, more than anyone else, is responsible for this whole mess, and they will have lakes of baby blood at their feet over the decades.
NRTL is a detestable, disgusting organization, on the level of Planned Parenthood.
Stupak is no more pro-life than my car. He voted to provide federal taxpayer dollars (many billions to start) for abortions on demand and abortion clinics. There is NOTHING pro-life about that and about Mr. Stupak. He should be ashamed for his vote and defeated in November.
The church sold their souls to the devil, believe it. Just as Jesus was tempted.
You can’t do good with evil.
You are with God or against God, at least we know where the church stands now.
I’m sure they think it would be nice to have universal care. What are they or their church personally doing about the issue of limited care besides badgering the government to steal from all?
Bingo! They’ve been closing Catholic hospitals or selling them off for years.
They’ve had weeks and months to speak up and I heard nary a peep in my church until this past Sunday. They had an insert in the bulletin saying the bill funded abortions, but by the time I got it they were literally going into the House Chamber to vote on it. A sorry piece of after-the-fact rear end covering.
The Bishops didn't get a vote, Stupak did, won't wash with me.
The bill that was passed in November never passed the Senate and isn't really relevant, IMO.
The continuing attempt to lay this disaster at the feet of the Catholic church is really rather strange. The Church can't even tell its own members how to vote without raising the "separation of church and state! Papist takeover!" hue and cry, and now they're supposed to stop a bill from going through Congress?
I'll tell you who I blame for this disaster: the American voter.
I agree. I’m about as faithful and practicing Catholic as they come. I go to church daily and pray a LOT.
Our USCCB got in bed with the devil many years ago to abdicate the “church’s” role in taking care of the sick and passing it off to the government.
The Church should not be surprised when all the faithful flock to the alter of the government to worship since that is where they will get their needs met. The Bishops are very guilty in this holocaust.
In some situations, a Catholic hospital will close when there is a local mandate regarding abortions that they can’t countenance.
But the quality of religious faith preached in those churches is getting thinner and thinner from all reports I’ve seen.
Unintended consequence...
There are many to share responsibility. But the local arms of the Roman Catholic Church have largely gone looey and thus given up some influence they could have had to the good. Salt and light has been hidden. I’ve debated this before and I am not a Roman Catholic so you may think I’m just bashing that church.
NRTL bullied the Repubs to vote for Stupak.
That was a result of either of two stategies,
NRTL was too stupid to to see that Stupak was going to do as he announced in an October town hall meeting, and vote for a bill with tax-payer funded abortions when the chips were down
OR
NRTL is actually in cahoots with Planned Parenthood and was just playing the Repubs for fools, and this was NRTLs way to speed government funded abortions.
Either way NRTL is unfit to have any part of the Pro-Lfe movement.
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