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Lots of stuff to digest in that one.
1 posted on 03/28/2010 10:09:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I said a long time ago that a bunch of people will have to die before this issue gets any traction.

I don’t think we are there yet.


2 posted on 03/28/2010 10:13:02 AM PDT by Safrguns
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PING!!
4 posted on 03/28/2010 10:14:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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The best way to get at Obama is to challenge him on criminal fraud rather than to try to get him on an eligibility challenge. In a criminal challenge, you don’t need to have standing, and you don’t have to prove where he was born or who his parents were or define natural born citizen, etc.

There are plenty of factors pointing to fraud ... mismatching details between the COLB scans and FactCheck photos, certificate number that is out-of-sequence and virtually impossible to have according to the HI Department of Health, and the refusal by the same Department to confirm the authenticity of the alleged COLB, in spite of having statutory authority and protection to do so. Fraud is an impeachable offense. Once the public learns Obama has committed fraud, they can put pressure on Congress to impeach the little bastard.


6 posted on 03/28/2010 10:23:31 AM PDT by edge919
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7 posted on 03/28/2010 10:23:59 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama's 2012 campaign motto: "HELPING millions through HURTING millions.")
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Let’s say for a moment I don’t agree with you. For sake of argument, let’s say I’m a Demorat. Wouldn’t I still be interested in knowing who I had in that office? Wouldn’t I still be concerned that maybe he didn’t have the best interests of the country I live in at heart? Apparently, not. I know any number of Demorats who agree with him so completely that they make fun of people like me who want to know. What is it Alinsky taught? Polarize, belittle, humiliate, make fun of? Congress had to have a separate vote on McCain because he was born in Panama on a US base. But nobody in Congress even asked about a man who, on purpose, hid his documentation. What happens when Obama is out of office and the horrible truth comes out? What a mess we’ll have to deal with then. Of course, he’ll have retired to Saudi Arabia and be outside the reach of Western law.


8 posted on 03/28/2010 10:25:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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No question in my mind, that Obama illegitimate. As to the story unfolding here; don't know. Have seen/heard Manning re his discourse on Obama (is he privy to this info or is the Rev the only one, willing to speak out about what so many others must know. . .)

Whatever the case; the BC issue should continue to be challenged; the origins of Obama investigated and the why/how of his rise to power investigated as well. And Obama should be held accountable for whom he pretends to be and for the fraud being perped; by whatever measure.

10 posted on 03/28/2010 10:27:56 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!)
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12 posted on 03/28/2010 10:36:14 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Rookie rantings...the author left out the Bilderbergs.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 10:38:29 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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If there is undeniable proof that Obama was born in another country it would not affect his status as president. The authority that enforces this requirement is the House and they already approved his eligibility. The authority that would overturn his eligibility is the House and they would not impeach him today.

This BC quest is fascinating and could have a devastating affect on the next election but as far as using it as a basis for reversing anything that has occurred, it is a waste of time.


14 posted on 03/28/2010 10:38:38 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Bttt


16 posted on 03/28/2010 10:42:27 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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The big Wall Street financial companies were behind ZerO and the Dems for money - specifically Cap & Trade, the key word being TRADE — Cap & Trade would create an entire new trading business for them that have never had, like adding an entire new divsion to each of their companies.


21 posted on 03/28/2010 10:50:55 AM PDT by PMAS
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The big Wall Street financial companies were also behind ZerO and the Dems because they know that Dems are big spenders and would add to the US debt which means trillions in new Bond issues for the Wall Street brokers to sell and trade — they needed something new to peddle after all of the mortagage business went to the sh*tter. They are always looking for a new “bubble” to create.


23 posted on 03/28/2010 10:55:08 AM PDT by PMAS
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A far cry from, “He grew up in Kansas”. The very first lie was this one and the media stuck with the story a little too long. Details that contradicted this scenario were coming out and the media was still sticking to it.

The reality is we know little about him other than the Kansas story isn’t the truth, he sat in a Marxist Church for 20 years, and he has some really bad personal associations which he tried to downplay.

Yet, if you dare question why the original Kansas lie was made, there is a special label for you...”Birther”. How dumb! You don’t even have to question where he was born to wear this label. If you simply question the original lie....look out....”here’s your sign”. If there is nothing to question why did his whole public narrative begin with a lie?

Who knows where he was born or anything else about him? Foriegn governments probably. Certainly not us. You know, We The People.


24 posted on 03/28/2010 10:57:55 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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Has anyone else other than me noticed that whenever there is an eligibility question or a serious question about background it’s always the dims who are balls deep in it, either covering up or obfusticating, or just blowing smoke


27 posted on 03/28/2010 11:04:56 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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Has anyone else other than me noticed that whenever there is an eligibility question or a serious question about background it’s always the dims who are balls deep in it, either covering up or obfusticating, or just blowing smoke


28 posted on 03/28/2010 11:04:57 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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His Baptism certificate.

There are a lot of accusations here, but this one just is not pertinent. Obama claimed membership in the United Church of Christ, formerly the Congregational Church. They do not require Baptism -- merely an "affirmation of faith". And that is essentially meaningless, since each of these congregations is self governing and proud that they swear no creed. His mother was an atheist and wouldn't have had him Baptized in teh first place, so a Baptism certificate would hold no clue as to date or place of birth.

29 posted on 03/28/2010 11:06:03 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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An extensive compendium of questions about Obama eligibility, unfortunately including some that have been debunked or ludicrous IMHO (supposedly illegal to go to Pakistan, Obama supposedly CIA).

The main thing I take away is that as huge numbers of citizens have become enraged at the ObamaCare takeover, desperation to cripple Obama to prevent further depredations will drive exploration of eligibility.

Hopefully support for many new quo warranto (burden is on Obama to prove eligibility) from thousands of newly injured Americans with standing to make the demand will result!

33 posted on 03/28/2010 11:11:22 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Just finished Harry Markopolos's book 'No One Would Listen', he's the Maddoff whistleblower if you don't recall the name. He was on to the Madoff Ponzi scheme going back to the late 1990's. He approached the SEC (several times) with his well presented & documented case pointing out the numerous red flag warnings that were popping up time & time again when it came to Madoff. The SEC barely gave him the time of day, they weren't really interested. Even the Wall Street Journal, although expressing interest, never ran with the story. Markopolos told the WSJ writer he was dealing with ... what I'm handing you could get you a Pulitzer. Eventually Madoff's Ponzi scheme collapsed on itself and he was outed. Thousands of investors lost billions of dollars.
What I see with Obama is much the same situation Markopolos experienced with trying to out Madoff early on, before he did so much damage; no one wants to go there ... people refuse to see the red flags ... they have their head stuck in the sand. Obama is the political version of Madoff.
38 posted on 03/28/2010 11:16:51 AM PDT by BluH2o
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Not going to happen, get used to it.


42 posted on 03/28/2010 11:27:47 AM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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On the second block of information titled "The Usurper in Chief". Reading down further is a mention of Debbie Schlussel who has pursued the selective service registration in Honolulu of a young Barack Obama. I was interested to see further information re: An accusation that Linda Bentley quite persuasively documented the other day.

I went to Google and put in this: Linda Bentley birth certificate Obama. At last Linda had got what followers of this subject had been waiting for. 17 actual registrations for selective service about that period. Two registations at the same post office designated as the Barack Obama location. Both showed a FOUR DIGIT figure for the year 1980. The Barack Obama certificate showed two figures offset from where they should have been.

There is evidence that further tampering has occured in this instance. Of course it has been rebutted that there is no requirement in the Constitution to register for selective service. Still the March 3rd last information does raise questions.

50 posted on 03/28/2010 12:23:24 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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