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To: MikefromOhio

Thanks MfromO. Yeah, there’s a lot of revisionism about the Civil War, such as calling President Lincoln “that Goon Tyrant” (whomever did it), which betrays ignorance of what went on before and during the war. The tyrants were the jackasses who started the war — the ones with the whips in their hands.

Four million slaves times $500 equals $2 billion — and that’s not inflation-adjusted. Jokers who piss and moan about the economic basis of the Civil War are looking into the wrong bank accounts.


300 posted on 03/31/2010 6:04:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

There was a lot of wrong on both sides in that conflict.

I say the war was inevitable, mainly because you had two groups (Abolitionist and Pro-Slavery) who were so strapped to their sides they were willing to die for them and had been for nearly 2 decades at that point in Missouri, Kentucky and in Kansas.

The main part of the Civil War started in 1861, but the actual conflict started well before that.

And yes we know it’s about “state’s rights”, ok? We get it. Except from the Northern view (as well as the European), by and large it was about freeing the slaves. That’s why it was inevitable and here even 140 years later it’s still a division for some (for whatever reason). Each side claims to “know” what the other side is for/against, but neither side can actually accept the others’ reasoning. And not listening to another person’s views is clearly NOT a conservative value at all IMO.

The funny part is that if not for the Slaves in the South, the CSA would have been recognized and aided immediately by Britain and France and we wouldn’t be having this wonderful conversation for the 10,000,000,000,000,000th time.

Their clinging to the institution stopped the politicians and leaders in those countries from out and out support when it could have happened earlier, and then after Gettysburg and Vicksburg, support was not forthcoming due to the military situation.


324 posted on 03/31/2010 6:25:05 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (There is no truth to the rumor that Ted Kennedy was buried at sea.....)
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To: SunkenCiv

Lincoln was a tyrant. You might not like it. It might offend your northern propaganda inspired version of history. Doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

In the spring of 1861 Lincoln sent troops into Maryland to arrest the entire Maryland legislature so he could install his own personal legislature in its place. That is not the act of a man who respects liberty. That is the act of a tyrant.


587 posted on 04/01/2010 9:25:25 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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