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ObamaCare Requires Micro Chipping of Americans?

Posted on 04/05/2010 2:25:16 PM PDT by TigerBait

Required RFID implanted chip Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 – The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?

National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1001-1008:

(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1,

section B: ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary”

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”

http://goldfuture.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/both-house-and-senate-health-bills-require-the-micro-chipping-of-americans-31810/

Backup article where Obama supporter questions this use:

http://current.com/news/90842279_coverage-under-obamacare-will-require-an-implantable-microchip.htm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; chip; obamacare; tinfoil
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To: Terry Mross

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21 posted on 04/05/2010 3:01:14 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: TigerBait

I think you are just reading from the section applicable to registered republicans.


22 posted on 04/05/2010 3:06:19 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Terry Mross

Um... the book you refer to is “The REVELATION” of jesus Christ, not “Revelations”.


23 posted on 04/05/2010 3:08:50 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: TigerBait

One more time. /sigh
Semiconductors are filed with toxic metals so you could never get approval for them to be placed inside a human.

Second, you’d have to do surgery on someone everytime you needed to replace the batteries.


24 posted on 04/05/2010 3:12:18 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: TChris
Oh yeah, no biggie.

....And soon, right after health care probes get inserted, we'll have sattellite traffic control accounts in order to drive cars. Driving infractions will be detected by land based sensors and fines deducted automatically by sattelite communication from your account

and a bio-probe inserted in your body will administer penal justice in the form of Tax Shock Therapy as deemed fit by the Traffic Ministry

no biggie, its just change

25 posted on 04/05/2010 3:22:20 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: beethovenfan

The book I refer to is the last book of the Bible.


26 posted on 04/05/2010 3:27:02 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: TigerBait

Hey obambi you know where you can put that chip?


27 posted on 04/05/2010 3:28:24 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Regime Change, 2010!)
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To: Zathras

My tooth fillings contain amalgam...an alloy of Mercury.

RFID devices don’t have/need batteries. They convert RF energy transmitted to them into operating energy.


28 posted on 04/05/2010 3:32:57 PM PDT by mreerm
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To: TChris

Unless you are a dog:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/chipped-pets-develop-fast-growing-lethal-tumors.html


29 posted on 04/05/2010 3:33:34 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (If you could read my mind ... just count up the felonies!)
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To: TigerBait; All

“(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.” “

Call me crazy, but this seems like they want a database on implantable HEALTH DEVICES. Like pacemakers or something.

I think this is getting a tad hysterical.


30 posted on 04/05/2010 3:33:50 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Zathras
Semiconductors are filed with toxic metals so you could never get approval for them to be placed inside a human.

Existing implantable devices are encapsulated. Semiconductors are rarely exposed anyway, they are too fragile. The amount of toxic metals in semiconductors can be counted in atoms; most of chips are silicon and aluminum.

you’d have to do surgery on someone everytime you needed to replace the batteries.

Most chips don't need power, they can be RFID. The rest can use a rechargeable battery and inductive (wireless) charger, just like most toothbrushes do today. If the chip is supercap-based it will last forever.

This, however, does not make tagging people any more safe or moral.

31 posted on 04/05/2010 3:37:04 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: TigerBait
It will also be used to tell the gubmint where you are. Mark my words.
32 posted on 04/05/2010 3:37:07 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: TigerBait; Slings and Arrows; maggief; martin_fierro; Spotsy; Smartass; Happy2BMe; Allegra; ...



33 posted on 04/05/2010 3:39:48 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: nickcarraway

34 posted on 04/05/2010 3:50:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Spunky

H.R. 3200 is July 2009 But it is in the one from march 17 2010 reconciliation bill. http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_hr4872_reported.pdf


35 posted on 04/05/2010 4:13:21 PM PDT by roving
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To: Terry Mross

And that is the correct title of the last book of the Bible. Check it out.


36 posted on 04/05/2010 4:39:57 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: roving
wow, its really coming all together now.

hold on folks, you aint seen nothin' yet!

37 posted on 04/05/2010 4:48:06 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Spunky

The language is in the enjoined bill (HR 4872) that was sent to Obama for signature (Public Law 111-152). It’s on page 1014, Line 8 and page 1017, Line 3. The final bill is not yet posted online. Thomas refers you to the enjoined bill.


38 posted on 04/05/2010 4:49:47 PM PDT by jgilbert63
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To: jgilbert63

I am confused there seems to be 3 different bills is the one with all the text?


39 posted on 04/05/2010 5:16:03 PM PDT by funfan
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To: jgilbert63; roving
Ok I have read it. Basically what it is saying is there will be a registry for recording devices that have been used or will be used by patients.

Class III device
Class II device that is implantable, life supporting, or life sustaining.

Such as heart valves, defibulators, etc. Also records of prescriptions and other records.

It does not mean they are going to implant a chip in us.

40 posted on 04/05/2010 5:30:23 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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