Posted on 04/06/2010 1:33:18 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
There’s no “WTF” about it. This regime in the WH should now be considered a subversive group determined to destroy the U.S. and all it has stood for the last two hundred plus years.
It would be good if that were the goal of this. What they plan to do is fine the employer and then make him pay back wages to make up for the "lost" wages of the illegals. The illegals will be treated as victims.
Lets be honest with ourselves. If we were living in Mexico, most of us would move heaven and earth to move to the United States. The problem is not with the illegals or the employers as much as it is with a government who refuses to seal off the borders or enforce the laws that would stem the tide of illegal crossings.
If I had been born in Mexico, I would be living here. Illegal or legal, I would have found a way to get here. And so would you.
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Recall that the Clintons had a loan that was “forgiven” by a bank?
Free untaxed money or the property or services purchased with that “forgiven” loan
Did you ever hear that the Clintons then paid federal or state income taxes on that “windfall cash loan”? Or capital gains taxes?
Nope!
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Simplified, it’s the barter system. exchanging goods for goods or for services.
Cloward-Piven. But, I get your meaning.
Cloward- my bad.
Although... something about “cloven” does seem to fit (i.e., cloven hooves)
That is probably why I had cloven on my mind. Over Passover, I had a conversation with someone about:
“The passage in Deuteronomy (14:4-5) gives a list of the animals that chew the cud and have cloven hooves and are thus kosher: oxen, sheep, goats, deer, ...”
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Yup
I call it:
the personal favor
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the personal interest-free loan
You get the benefits of goods or service
But you also dramatically reduce your reportable income
The federal, state, and local income tax saved plus any state sales taxes saved would be huge
Not to mention the coming Obama-VAT taxes
A tax is added to each good or service from the raw material, the manufacture, shipping, at distribution point, shipping (again), at retail, shipping (once again)
Don’t forget that VAT taxes will also be added in at each point on gasoline and auto parts and auto repair labor!
VAT taxes are designed to hit the consumer the most -
Low incomes -or- no incomes, middle class incomes, and Senior Citizens on Social Security will be hit the hardest!
Who will not be affected much?
Those politicians with their freevie cars and expense accounts - and executive jets - like Obama, Pelosi -
VAT taxes will be levied on groceries, clothing, shoes, - where sales taxes are not always charged in some states or cities -
Greece has A 19% VAT tax - and they are not just flat broke - they are bankrupt and deep in dept to their creditors
Paul Volker and Hussein Junior will face a hostile American citizenry - who have quickly discovered that Obamacare was just a huge Ponzi Scheme designed to redistibute their wealth and incomes and property - to those who can but will not work - and to countless millions of illegal aliens
Reparations under the name of Obamacare!
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Recall that Obama’s thugs wanted to ban home gardens? For “food safety” reasons?
And to ban -or- license and tax garage and yard sales?
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A “Fair Tax” lets the government pick and choose and discriminate who and what is taxed
The VAT tax is on top of income taxes, sales taxes, propert taxes, etc. - at each stage of production of a good or service - the ultimatee scheme for government to perpetually keep increasing entitlement programs and spending and grants and their own perks and freevies - democrats yearn for the 80%-95% tax on you - but not for them and their tax-exempt foundations
The “Flat Tax” replaces all other taxes with a low flat tax - and everyone pays the same exact percentage of their income - It will never fly - Congress will exempt the lower income groups - add mortgage interest deductions, etc. - a nice idea - but the impossible dream -
So? I would also be prepared to face the consequences not whine like a baby about what I had done.
Yes, the problem IS with the illegals.
It seems you are okay with millions of people invading the United States.
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Great graphic potlatch -
If they tried to license and limit and tax yard sales and garage sales around here - heads would roll!
I'm amazed that there are no rules on garage sales in your area. In my town there are columns of them in the newspaper and you have to take your permit to the newspaper before they will put your ad in!!
It has been like that for decades here. Some people used to just use nonstop garage sales as a sort of business I guess.
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The way to “work around” that - would be to get say - 6 families together - alternate sales - one every month - licensed and legal
They showed on FNC that Obama’s VAT tax would add $4,000 more to a $24,000 Ford Fiesta
Now with VAT = $26,000
And now a higher sales tax too!
Obama plans on making the average American family pay over $32,000 in taxes in 2010
Up from about $26,000
That is pre-VAT tax too!
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I will grab that graphic and upload it - Thanks
[get say - 6 families together - alternate sales - one every month]
Yeah, they already do that but the location has to change so people have to move all their unsold stuff to each new location.
Amazing to read that the employers matching funds towards employees insurance will be considered INCOME! Thus more income to tax.
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Then those in Congress should be taxed on their car and transportation perks the US taxpayer’s are forced to pay for - without their consent
I anticipate a huge growth in the underground economy -
So does Obama - he is hiring over 15,600 new IRS agents to go out and enforce your participation and payment into Obamacare - and buying high-tech assault shotguns for the IRS
Yes, I’ve written about that before.
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