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Birthplace lawyer has another suit dismissed
Orange County Register ^ | 4/16/2010 | Martin Wisckol

Posted on 04/17/2010 2:06:48 AM PDT by South40

Laguna Niguel attorney Orly Taitz, who’s running for California secretary of state, has had another lawsuit thrown out in her effort to have President Barack Obama removed from office. Taitz alleges that Obama cannot legitimately hold the presidency because he is not a natural-born citizen.

After having a case thrown out by District Judge David O. Carter in Santa Ana federal court, Taitz attempted to have the case transferred to federal court in Washington, D.C., claiming that was the proper venue.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; orlytaitz; whackamole

1 posted on 04/17/2010 2:06:48 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

What a pity ... lawsuit like that would be worth it.. if ONLY for the ENTERTAINMENT Value!!


2 posted on 04/17/2010 2:16:30 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Obama ... Mein Kampf is NOT a Textbook!!)
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To: South40
I'll still bet she is a heck of a good dentist and real estate broker .
3 posted on 04/17/2010 2:16:36 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: South40

I still support Orly and I will vote for her in the upcoming elections.


4 posted on 04/17/2010 2:23:23 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: kbennkc

Because of tenacity :)?


5 posted on 04/17/2010 2:23:42 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235
The gal has guts , for sure . I am starting to find her attractive in a “what if we were inmates in the same mental hospital “ way .
6 posted on 04/17/2010 2:30:24 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: South40; BP2; Red Steel; Lurking Libertarian; little jeremiah; Las Vegas Ron; El Gato

“What is the legal significance of what we can call “the natural born citizen clause”?

“Anyone born on American soil whose parents are citizens of the United States of American is a “natural born
citizen.”

Illinois Public Law and Legal Theory
Research Papers Series No. 08-17
September 5, 2008
Originalism and the Natural
Born Citizen Clause

Lawrence B. Solum*

*John E. Cribbet Professor of Law, University of Illinois College of Law

This paper can be downloaded without charge from the Social Science Research Network
Electronic Paper Collection:

http://papers.ssrn.com/abstract=1263885

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1263885##


7 posted on 04/17/2010 2:30:44 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: kbennkc

Having just had 5 root canals, the thought of her getting near my roots is just scary..


8 posted on 04/17/2010 2:33:54 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: kbennkc
Orly has guts - no doubt about it and you gotta give her props for he efforts. That said, there's no doubt BO is hiding something on his BC, academic records, passport, etc if he's spent >$2million to keep them sealed. There must be some patriot who has access to these records and will "leak" copies of the documents.

Amazing how many Americans are still asleep and don't recognize the communist threat that is not only at our door but inside our homes.

9 posted on 04/17/2010 2:41:42 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: kbennkc

LOL. I dunno about her methods (I personally am too uninformed to have a concrete opinion of Ms. Taitz), but her tenacity is second to none! The Founders PLedged their Lives, Fortunes and Sacred Honor for their cause, we don’t see much of that these days.


10 posted on 04/17/2010 2:58:12 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I’m sure she’ll make a fine CA SOS, once she figures out what the job description is...right now, she seems to think it’s the same job as the Attorney General’s.


11 posted on 04/17/2010 3:05:31 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

“I’m sure she’ll make a fine CA SOS, once she figures out what the job description is...right now, she seems to think it’s the same job as the Attorney General’s.”

Actually she thought she HAD filed for Attorney General...


12 posted on 04/17/2010 3:09:30 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: South40

Tilting at windmills? Perhaps. Necessary? Yep.

Interesting to note that one Judge says, “this should be refiled quo warranto, in DC”. Then, another judge says, “Nope, don’t think so.” Sounds like the stuff appeals are made of, but I’ll defer to the fine legal minds here, at FR.

I, along with a great many others, have a big issue with the whole ‘standing’ concept. It’s been argued here, ad nauseum, but it still just doesn’t make sense to rational people that a US citizen, or a member of the Armed Forces of the US, or a directly opposed candidate from the same election cycle...not one of them has ‘standing’ to challenge this pretender in the US Court system. It’s simply preposterous. A classic example of the frequent conflict between what is legal and what is right.

The American people are beginning to raise their voices, and the din will be unbearable even at the top of the ivory tower on which the anointed one stands, looking out over the dwindling throng of 0bamunists and other assorted enablers.

It’s time to take back the country. And, every one of these despicable legal shams draws us closer to what should be avoidable, but may become necessary.


13 posted on 04/17/2010 3:57:44 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: montanajoe

Who’s better qualified than a dentist to expose 0bama’s roots? /sarc


14 posted on 04/17/2010 4:13:07 AM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: South40

These judges are all going to stand naked before The Judge who cannot be bribed, and account for their decisions.


15 posted on 04/17/2010 4:55:20 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: kbennkc

You are a troll.

Always here to stir it up against any eligibility issues. I see you’ve now added non-post number 2 in this short thread to keep the ridicule stream flowing —your specialty.

Give the woman the credit she is due for pure conviction and courage in the face of institutionalized ridicule.

I’d love to see your face when something finally sticks ( not necessarily through Taitz who has been targeted successfully, including her own lack of strategic savvy—but when it really hits, and the bootlick O media can’t stop it—which is beginning)


16 posted on 04/17/2010 4:59:00 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: South40

Wherever he may have been born, ZerO is clearly hiding something (probably a lot.) I have absolutely no expectation that the courts will touch this, even with a ten foot pole, but Orly Taitz and others who are dismissed as “birthers” are performing a useful service by keeping the matter alive.

Someday the truth will come out - in the midst of the wreckage of the country.


17 posted on 04/17/2010 5:12:29 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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To: PubliusMM

I suspect Zero knows that he will ultimately “lose” these cases but if he can drag them out for several years he will have “won”. Curious. The final admission on his part that he knew he really wasn’t eligible ‘cuz his dad was Kenyan will probably be the final blow to what was once the U.S. Interesting times, fer sure.


18 posted on 04/17/2010 5:19:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: PubliusMM

I, along with a great many others, have a big issue with the whole ‘standing’ concept. It’s been argued here, ad nauseum, but it still just doesn’t make sense to rational people that a US citizen, or a member of the Armed Forces of the US, or a directly opposed candidate from the same election cycle...not one of them has ‘standing’ to challenge this pretender in the US Court system. It’s simply preposterous. A classic example of the frequent conflict between what is legal and what is right.


“Standing” as a lawyer once told me “means whether the judge got some last nite, or not”.

Standing in a court case is the excuse used by a judge to not hear a case. Amazing that the ACLU always has “standing” no matter how vague or frivilous their case is....but someone asking Obama for proof of birth location.....nope.


19 posted on 04/17/2010 5:45:49 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: South40

So that makes her record what? Oh for all of them?


20 posted on 04/17/2010 5:48:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: kbennkc
I'll still bet she is a heck of a good dentist and real estate broker .

I hope she's a better dentist than she is a lawyer. For the sake of her patients.

21 posted on 04/17/2010 5:49:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: cycle of discernment
I’d love to see your face

Thanks , nobody has ever said that about my face before . Now I feel guilty for saying crazy things like doubting the birther movement will prevail .

If B. Hussein is removed from office due to ineligibility , no for any reason , prior to the expiration of his term , I will donate $1000.00 to Free Republic in your name and banish myself . Even though I'll be gone , you will have made me the happiest woman in the world .

22 posted on 04/17/2010 5:57:04 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Standing” as a lawyer once told me “means whether the judge got some last nite, or not”.

Standing in a court case is the excuse used by a judge to not hear a case. Amazing that the ACLU always has “standing” no matter how vague or frivilous their case is....but someone asking Obama for proof of birth location.....nope.


Bears repeating.


23 posted on 04/17/2010 8:34:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: kbennkc
I'll still bet she is a heck of a good dentist and real estate broker.

She earned her on-line law degree to defend herself in malpractice suits associated with her dental practice, all of which have been settled out of court.

I don't know about her reality skills but her association with convicted felon and disbarred attorney Charles Lincoln III is troubling as he's been involved in real-estate scam operations involving homeowners facing foreclosure.

But Orly's a hero and a patriot on this forum! This place has sure changed a lot since I signed up nine years ago. Back then, shady characters like Orly and her associates would not have been held in such high regard.

24 posted on 04/17/2010 10:13:02 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Oh for all of them?”

That phrase does make it easy to keep track.


25 posted on 04/17/2010 10:25:51 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Drew68
But Orly's a hero and a patriot on this forum! This place has sure changed a lot since I signed up nine years ago. Back then, shady characters like Orly and her associates would not have been held in such high regard.

Orly won't be held in high regard if I have anything to do with it. I'll expose her every chance I get. Hopefully some day the birthers will get it through their thick skulls that Orly ain't a freeper's best friend.

26 posted on 04/17/2010 10:58:37 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: bushpilot1
It's interesting that while there is lots of mention of John McCain in that article, the name of Barack Hussein Obama is no where to be found. Just like in the Senate.

The author also never looks to Vattel (sections 212 also 217 for McCain's case and 215 for Obama's), or Historian and President of Congress under the Articles of Confederation, David Ramsay.

Still, the exploration of the differences between a citizen and a subject are useful.

27 posted on 04/17/2010 11:28:03 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Some birther-control devices are more reliable than others.


28 posted on 04/17/2010 11:33:41 AM PDT by The4thHorseman
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Orly won't be held in high regard if I have anything to do with it. I'll expose her every chance I get. Hopefully some day the birthers will get it through their thick skulls that Orly ain't a freeper's best friend.

AMEN!

(...I felt like there was an implied "can I get an amen" in your statement.)

29 posted on 04/17/2010 11:47:40 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: BuckeyeTexan
This place has sure changed a lot since I signed up nine years ago.

Ten years here, and "Amen" to that.

30 posted on 04/17/2010 11:51:20 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: kbennkc
The gal has guts , for sure . I am starting to find her attractive in a “what if we were inmates in the same mental hospital “ way .

That is funny... And my vote is, your comments are welcome here...birther threads suffer from a deplorable lack of humor.

31 posted on 04/17/2010 11:55:18 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

There was an implied, “Can I get uh a-men?!” You need to join the Sanity Squad.


32 posted on 04/17/2010 12:02:09 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: PubliusMM

Its my opinion a court would be more inclined to find standing, or quo warranto under its discretion, if there were something concrete on the other side of the problem. Suppose a court did open the door, what is the case? There are no really substantial facts which indicate Obama was born somewhere besides Hawaii. There are plenty of suspicions and questions, but no real substantial evidence. The only point of opening the door would be a fishing expedition, which is probably going to net a physical copy of the COLB. Nobody is going to let their courtroom become a circus for that reason.

On the questions of NBC, there is no case at all. So if the door gets opened, nothing is going happen. Under these circumstances, there is no reason for a court to open the door and go through all the hassle. Give a court an actual Kenyan BC, or something else substantial, and the standing might appear.

I actually think there is a legal basis for standing under a different type of argument, and if it didn’t win, it would at least not be laughable. I would provide it, except for the fact that there is nothing to offer once the door is opened. A court may end up doing this on its own for the same reason, but it hasn’t happened yet, although I have seen a few hints in some of the holdings.

parsy, who is sitting, not standing
parsy


33 posted on 04/17/2010 12:18:34 PM PDT by parsifal (Woe to those who foster stupidity for their own sake, for they shall be drawn and quartered - WEIG)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
You need to join the Sanity Squad.

Is there a membership fee? Secret handshake? Will I get to wear a fuzzy fedora? If there is a parade, can I ride a tricycle?

34 posted on 04/17/2010 12:22:22 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: montanajoe
Actually she thought she HAD filed for Attorney General...

She did try to file at the wrong address.

35 posted on 04/17/2010 2:02:58 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You’re accepted into the Squad. Hazing will commence when you least expect it. Freepmail coming soon. :)


36 posted on 04/17/2010 2:14:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: lucysmom

Where did she try to file it?

parsy, the curious


37 posted on 04/17/2010 2:17:45 PM PDT by parsifal (Woe to those who foster stupidity for their own sake, for they shall be drawn and quartered - WEIG)
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To: Non-Sequitur
“So that makes her record what? Oh for all of them?”

That means she has... a perfect record!

It's an inverted no-hitter.

38 posted on 04/17/2010 2:20:42 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: parsifal
Where did she try to file it?

I'll let Orly tell it as only she can.

I decided to check out possibility of running and called Orange County elections office. nobody answered. I left two messages, nobody called back. I drove to the office at the 1700 E Garry Str, ste 231, Santa Ana CA. The office is locked, no schedule of working hours.

I wonder: if one wants to run for office, how does one register, picks up forms, how does one communicate?

The address is for a gay and lesbian political action committee.

39 posted on 04/17/2010 4:46:58 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: montanajoe
Actually she thought she HAD filed for Attorney General...

Orly as AG??? Now THAT would be too funny for words.

40 posted on 04/17/2010 4:49:36 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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