Remember that ash cloud? It didn't exist, says new evidence

Daily Mail ^ | SEAN POULTER

[cripplecreek]

I call bullshit when I see it boy.

Now go lay down.

[Tzfat]

I call bullsh!t when I see it boy. Now go lay down.

What is your problem? You have opinions. I have opinions. The difference is that I am actual a subject matter expert. you are not. For that, you make it personal? You need to chill.

[cripplecreek]

I’m just going to continue laughing at you.

[Tzfat]

Here is what my airline officially tells our pilots in our Flight Operations Manual:

Volcanic Ash.

Report Of Volcanic Activity. Remain clear of reported volcanic activity. Encounters with volcanic ash can be extremely hazardous.

Caution: Remain upwind of volcano if possible to avoid flight through volcanic ash. Volcanic ash may be undetectable at night or in IMC.

Ash Detection In Flight. Detecting volcanic ash may be difficult; however the following indications may appear in the vicinity of volcanic ash:
— poor radio reception due to static electricity,
— smoke or dust appearing in the flightdeck, occasionally in concentrations sufficient to hinder breathing,
— acrid odor similar to electrical smoke,
— multiple engine malfunctions, such as surges, increasing EGT, torching, flameout, etc., and/or
— at night, St. Elmo's fire/static discharges may be observed around the windshield accompanied by a bright orange glow in the engine inlets.

The ash cloud may extend for several hundred miles. Use all available sources of information to remain clear, or to exit areas of volcanic ash; consider reversing course if required. Refer to applicable Pilot Handbook and QRH for specific procedures.

You can see that the notion of shutting down airspace that extends to over 1,000 miles from the eruption is not even close to being a consideration. As I have previously said, airline operations consider "Ash Clouds" to be entirely different from the nonsense the Europeans were refering to.

Because I am intimately aquainted with Operational Risk Assemsements, I can tell you that the European's response was entirely driven by non-operational individuals. But hey, if you think you are such an "expert," argue with Giovanni Bisignani, IATA’s Director General and Chief Executive Officer, who said:

“We are far enough into this crisis to express our dissatisfaction on how governments have managed it, with no risk assessment, no consultation, no coordination, and no leadership...Governments must place greater urgency and focus on how and when we can safely re-open Europe’s skies. This means decisions based on risk-management, facts and utilising operational procedures that maintain safety.”

[UCANSEE2]

Finnish F-18 engine check reveals effects of volcanic dust

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/16/340727/pictures-finnish-f-18-engine-check-reveals-effects-of-volcanic.html

[Tzfat]

Where were they when they encountered ash? Volcanic ash has a “life” and locus where it is considered dangerous. All “ash” is not equal.

[dools007]

Ping.

[reg45]

It was just an excuse for 0bama not to go to Poland.

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks.,

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Icelandic Volcano Caused Historic Famine In Egypt
Terra Daily | 11/22/2006 | Staff Writers
Posted on 11/22/2006 8:44:38 AM PST by cogitator
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1742658/posts

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