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National Review ^ | 4 May 2010 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/03/2010 11:58:17 PM PDT by JLS

Many years ago, I asked the late Alan Jay Lerner, author of Camelot, Gigi, My Fair Lady and much else, why, as a Broadway colossus, he chose to live in London. And he replied that, in his opinion, Britain was the most eminently civilized society on earth.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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This one is one of Steyns best and most frightening colums.
1 posted on 05/03/2010 11:58:17 PM PDT by JLS
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To: knews_hound

Steyn ping opportunity.


2 posted on 05/03/2010 11:58:56 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who wont even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day)
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If Lerner were still around I’d advise him to forget My Fair Lady and try Clockwork Orange – The Musical.

And, tragically, *this* is "the money quote of this piece. Indeed, as you said, This one is one of Steyns best and most frightening colums.

the infowarrior

3 posted on 05/04/2010 12:38:04 AM PDT by infowarrior
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How quickly England has descended into near anarchy - I see the same happening here in Aust. only slightly slower
4 posted on 05/04/2010 12:39:21 AM PDT by melsec
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The highest drug use in Europe, highest incidence of sexually transmitted disease, highest number of single mothers

Remove Scotland from Britain, and what's left has rather average statistics.

This is similar to the way that homicide rates in the US are heavily influenced by 10% of its population.

5 posted on 05/04/2010 12:52:39 AM PDT by agere_contra
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If (Alan Jay) Lerner were still around I’d advise him to forget My Fair Lady and try Clockwork Orange – The Musical.

Girls accused of killing gay man in attack like Clockwork Orange


6 posted on 05/04/2010 12:53:16 AM PDT by TChad
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This one is one of Steyns best and most frightening columns.

Yes and partly because we see a similar, creaping debasement right here at home. This IS frightening but read his LITTLE STASI-ON-AVON which was the 'next' click: excerpt:

LITTLE STASI-ON-AVON

[Droll, and very British—or it used to be. But in Little Stasi-on-Avon, where you can’t make a joke in private conversation or say “Yuk!” in the nursery school lunch hour, the words of the French philosopher Alain Finkielkraut seem more pertinent: “The lofty idea of ‘the war on racism’ is gradually turning into a hideously false ideology,” he said in 2005. “And this anti-racism will be for the 21st century what Communism was for the 20th century: a source of violence.”]

Frightening and depressing, just considering our three biggest enemies/threats to our civilization - and our well-being as part of it: creeping, leaping totalitarianism as manifested and imposed by our radical Left and radical Islamism - and ourselves - as we buy into it; piece by politically-correct piece.

7 posted on 05/04/2010 1:02:06 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show: http://www.transparencynow.com/truman.htm)
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To: JLS
I thought about Lerner the other day when, seeking news of the British election, I chanced to glance at the headlines at the Daily Mail website. Together they formed an epic prose poem of futuristic dystopian sci-fi played by a company of West End trouser-droppers.

A Clockwork Orange comes to reality.

In the United Kingdom, “civilized society” cedes turf remorselessly: The highest drug use in Europe, highest incidence of sexually transmitted disease, highest number of single mothers. Marriage is all but defunct, except for toffs, upscale gays, and Muslims.

Is the United Kingdom finished?

8 posted on 05/04/2010 1:47:35 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Is the United Kingdom finished?

Whether the UK is finished is a choice, not a fact. It depends on whether real Brits who still hold their traditional values cry, 'Hold, enough!' or are content to 'go gentle into that good night'. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, and I suspect the American people are ready to follow a leader who serves God too. In that leader's words, 'Don't retreat - reload'. If the Brits won't save themselves on their own initiative, perhaps they will follow us, and that may be part of the reason why the forces of totalitarianism are so anxious to stop Palin and others who stand for freedom.

9 posted on 05/04/2010 2:00:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: JLS

They are going to have to pull themselves out of the gutter. There is no Professor Higgens to do it for them. If they don’t do it quick enough Imam Higgens will just stone them while they are down there.


10 posted on 05/04/2010 2:15:16 AM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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I agree but so many British are so polite and don’t want to make a scene. Their politeness might be their undoing. Even the ones that see it don’t necessarily think it is their responsibility to do anything about it. They blame the government - as if it’s the government’s responsibility to determine what is good behaviour or not!

Mel


11 posted on 05/04/2010 2:16:53 AM PDT by melsec
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There is a certain madness on the Isle. Sooner or later...a Monty Python crew will arrive and take on modern day topics. At that point...the seriousness scale will drop ten pounds pretty quickly.


12 posted on 05/04/2010 3:15:24 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Rummyfan

Their “STATE” Church was built on immorality and continues to this day.....although there is no one even attending these churches......


13 posted on 05/04/2010 4:18:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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there is no one even attending these churches

I'm no one, then.

14 posted on 05/04/2010 4:48:59 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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good freaking grief......you KNOW that your church is not well-attended....I think you can see with your own eyes.....or can’t you??


15 posted on 05/04/2010 5:02:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Winniesboy

Just like in Paris....there was a HANDFUL of people on EASTER years and years ago when I attended Mass. That’s when I KNEW something was wrong with France!!


16 posted on 05/04/2010 5:03:14 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

The Anglican Church could have been much more than it is had the present agnostic Royal Family taken an interest in its direction. For centuries it has abrogated all responsibility for the role the royals played before the entry of the German Lutherans. There was one exception, Queen Victoria, but that demands comparison with the present Queen who has lasted about as long, and that silly doofus should have decamped long ago. Unfortunately and sadly for the Christian community, had she done so, she would only have passed the scepter to one of the feckless brood she has fostered.


17 posted on 05/04/2010 5:56:37 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: JLS

Egads. What a depressing column.


18 posted on 05/04/2010 7:09:10 AM PDT by Gritty (If Lerner were still around IÂ’d advise him forget 'My Fair Lady' and try 'Clockwork Orange'-Mk Stey)
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To: JLS; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
Pinging the Steyn list for a timely column.

Thanks for the pings J.





There was a nice little piece on NR's Corner you might like also -  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2505853/posts

On or off the Steyn List, please FReepmail me.

Cheers,

knewshound

knewshounds blog

19 posted on 05/04/2010 9:10:30 AM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: agere_contra

Really? I’d like to see the stats for that. Not that I don’t believe you, but I understand things better when I crunch the numbers myself ;-).


20 posted on 05/04/2010 9:32:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's a jungle out there, kiddies; have a very fruitful day.)
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