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To: sickoflibs; All

I heard a retired general discuss this, and if it goes through, we’re in for a world of troubles. First off, it is considered a basic human right, even in the military, that you cannot be forced to live with, or shower or share facilities with the opposite sex. The reason is, of course, no one wants to be vulnerable to persons who see you as sexually desirable.

Therefore, when/if homosexuals are allowed to openly serve, they will have to be given special quarters—as the rest of the men or women will not want to be sleeping or showering with them.

Certainly a few bad apples will show up too, and homosexual rape and other nastiness will now become commonplace. No one will be able to be discharged for perverse sexual practices....as perversity will now be defined as “normal.”

I can tell you the USA is fast becoming a place I really do not want my children to fight and die for...

I think that’s one of the biggest dangers too. Conservatives of all stripes contribute more recruits to the military than any other group. If it becomes an unfriendly place for conservatives....as it increasingly seems to be....and the USA becomes increasingly unconstitutional, conservatives will cease sending our young people to military service. Where will we find people for our military then? San Francisco???


65 posted on 05/27/2010 8:43:48 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

The whole idea of open promotion of homosexual desires in the military sounds like a disaster to me.

Tell some of these feminists they must shower and sleep with men and yet not misbehave. Idiotic.

What really bothers me is polls that show the younger public approves of this


70 posted on 05/27/2010 8:50:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: AnalogReigns
I heard a retired general discuss this, and if it goes through, we’re in for a world of troubles. First off, it is considered a basic human right, even in the military, that you cannot be forced to live with, or shower or share facilities with the opposite sex.

I don't know if I'd call it a "basic human right" but it certainly ranks up there with proper decorum and modesty.

I'm sure just about everyone who has served has known, or known of, at least one homosexual in their unit. "Don't ask, don't tell", and the blanket forbidden policy before it, actually worked well because the nightmare scenario of all of this will be barracks assignments. Which wasn't really worried about before as you really didn't know who was gay. Well, officially at least :)

You can't really have a male, female and queer in separate barracks but then if you don't that means bunking gays and lesbians with straights. And THAT will never work out.

Plus, if they want to bunk queers and straights together then they must also bunk straight men and women together. And let's see how well THAT works out.

74 posted on 05/27/2010 9:05:01 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Everyone needs valid ID except illegal aliens and the President - only in America)
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To: AnalogReigns

There are problems other than living quarters—

For instance, any policy of approving open homosexuals in the U. S. military is going to lead to a marked increase in AIDS-infected personnel. It is inevitable.

The men and women serving are trained and prepared to provide first-aid to combat, or other, wounded—just how do you do that to a service member suspected to be circulating with individuals having a high probability of AIDS-infection??

Would you want that individual giving YOU first-aid involving possible exchange of bodily fluids??

Another aspect is perception of our military by other nations, especially at this time the Muslim nations. Homosexuality is anathema to the great majority of Muslims.

To think that our military can work successfully with indigenous armed forces in Muslim countries, after being branded with being an army of homosexuals and AIDS-carriers is unreal. Our terrorist enemies will use this as propaganda ceaselessly.

Finally, in regard to the “place you want your children to fight and die for”:

Is there an Utopia out there somewhere?? God has put us all here at this time and at this place to do his work. Some will, some won’t. But anyone with love in his or her heart wants freedom and dignity for all peoples.

It is not just about a place. We all might think more often about those departed, may God ever bless them and their families, who made our freedom today possible by the unselfish service that they did for all of us.

I can’t imagine, with all that they did, they approving of our blithely declaring that, “Nope...we are going to give up and not fight evil no more” for that is exactly what the enemies of freedom and of everything decent in the world want.

It surely was a green light to Hitler; and that light didn’t change until 60 million humans were killed in WWII. . .


85 posted on 05/27/2010 10:09:23 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: AnalogReigns
Therefore, when/if homosexuals are allowed to openly serve, they will have to be given special quarters—as the rest of the men or women will not want to be sleeping or showering with them.

Are you sure about that? It does not sound likely. I hope I'm wrong, but the primary group offended by this change will be heterosexual males in the military, a group hated by the left. What military males want does not matter in the slightest to liberals.

88 posted on 05/28/2010 1:11:40 AM PDT by TChad
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