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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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To: hennie pennie
You asked in another thread where Joran was being held;...

I think I speculated about it, not asked, but thank you for the information anyway.

681 posted on 06/06/2010 1:23:52 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: TigersEye

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2529073/posts

new thread up.


682 posted on 06/06/2010 1:36:13 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: hennie pennie

I didn’t know this either...

While it was illegal to gamble in a casino in Aruba if you were younger than 18, the FBI determined that his parents had set him up with a $50,000 line of credit when he was but 17, the age that he met Natalee Holloway in a local casino.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=ds301u7s0hao4c9nu91fe7hfl6&topic=8038.0;prev_next=next#new


683 posted on 06/06/2010 1:39:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: All
ALERT TO A NEW THREAD, EVERYBODY!

Van der Sloot Victim Video Seals Peru Case ------ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2529073/posts

684 posted on 06/06/2010 1:53:10 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl
Yes, I posted that in an earlier post, but not from SM; mine came from an article written by that male FBI profiler.

50 grand line of credit???

At a casino????

WHAT dad does that for a 16 year old son???

Is this kind of thing perhaps typical in mafioso families where teens are already working for the mob???

685 posted on 06/06/2010 1:55:53 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: fatnotlazy
Thanks Hennie. I posted in another thread that we may never know what happened to Natalee. Some have suggested that he could offer the “truth” in exchange for leniency in the Peruvian murder, but I don’t know that it would do any good. I doubt Peru really cares about a possible murder in Aruba five years ago

Do the Peruvians know about water boarding? If not, I'm sure we could send some Green Berets down for a little training session. Course they will need a subject to use to train the Peruvians on.

Well it's nice thought anyway. But with The Won acting as CinC, it's not going to happen.

686 posted on 06/06/2010 1:56:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: sodpoodle

Thanks for the ping.


687 posted on 06/06/2010 2:09:44 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: kcvl

Chilling! She is going like a sheep to the slaughter.


688 posted on 06/06/2010 2:09:48 PM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: hennie pennie

Please Lord, let it be!
Let Natalee be returned to her family.
If anyone can find her, Tim Miller can.


689 posted on 06/06/2010 2:25:09 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: kcvl
Nope, I was wrong, you're right -- I saw that at SM, and again a second time --- from an article written by the FBI profiler, Clint van Zandt.

It stuck out like a sore thumb to me, because I recall the PRECISE interview when Jug & Beth were standing together and told Greta about the casino line of credit.

I remember being appalled that the press didn't RUN WILD with that information.

How many children on Aruba have a fifty thousand dollar line of credit with a casino???????

It's outrageous.

690 posted on 06/06/2010 2:26:59 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: El Gato
El Gato, I have a feeling that the Peruvians don't need to learn a thing about interrogation techniques -- they've been dealing with the Shining Path Rebel terrorists for a long time, ya know?

I think JVDS may have met his nemesis.

691 posted on 06/06/2010 2:29:40 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I recall reading about that, but have not seen it.
I didn’t realize she’s the only one to report that.
I can understand the brother not wanting to discuss it anymore.

BTW, thank you for keeping this thread updated with information. FReepers are the best!


692 posted on 06/06/2010 2:32:02 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: seekthetruth
I read something fascinating today, but can't recall where, maybe WS or SM, not sure.

All it was is that a poster mentioned telling a co-worker, a shrink all about this case, and the shrink said that many homocidal psychopaths have an

UNCONSCIOUS DESIRE TO BE CAUGHT so they cannot kill again.

I never heard that before.

693 posted on 06/06/2010 2:35:07 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie; RGVTx; Canadian Outrage; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; toldyou; kcvl; truthluva; NATH; ..

Ping to post 679.


694 posted on 06/06/2010 2:37:19 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: hennie pennie
50 grand line of credit??? At a casino???? WHAT dad does that for a 16 year old son???

It sounds like Joran was being raised to be a player. And not a gambler but a con-man, drug smuggler, human trafficking and whatever else could turn a quick profit.

695 posted on 06/06/2010 2:38:01 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: RGVTx
Don'tcha ever get just a dreadful feeling of nasty deja vu --- here, once again, precisely five years later are tens of thousands of individuals commenting about NH online, all over the Internet.

It's extraordinary, and I think I'm still in a state of shock that he's been apprehended, it's like.... it's impossible that there would ever be justice for Natalee.... but, but... L@@K what's happenned!!

It's startling!

Natalee's old friends and family must simply be utterly astounded, in outright shock....

696 posted on 06/06/2010 2:43:39 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: TigersEye; kcvl
TigersEye, I totally agree, there is something WRONG with that, and I am very curious WHY the media and the FBI never fully investigated Paulus.

Did you seek the early link in this thread to a fascinating discussion elsewhere about the theory that Paulus may have FAKED his own death/funeral and is now living elsewhere under a new identity?

697 posted on 06/06/2010 2:47:24 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: TigersEye; OldDeckHand; Dr. Scarpetta; amom; All
http://tinyurl.com/256k37d

A truly remarkable read, link provided by KCVL.

698 posted on 06/06/2010 2:56:02 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

No, I missed that link and thread. At any rate my gut feeling is that the Aruban authorities are deeply involved in racketeering and Paulus and Joran were just two of many players on the island. They became loose cannons that had to be secured and protected from scrutiny in order to keep a huge network of crime and corruption from being revealed.


699 posted on 06/06/2010 3:03:45 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: hennie pennie

Very interesting. Thanks for the link.


700 posted on 06/06/2010 3:07:17 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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