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Still seeking an explanation for Obama's SSN 042-68-4425
Sonoran News ^ | June 2, 2010 | LINDA BENTLEY

Posted on 06/03/2010 11:38:56 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

WASHINGTON – According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), the first three digits of every Social Security number (SSN) indicates the state in which the person resides. Only one number may be issued to any given person, even in the event of identity theft, and numbers are never “recycled” after a person dies.

The instructions accompanying the application to apply for an original SSN, apply for a replacement card, and change or correct information on a SSN record are riddled with the term “you must.”

The instructions begin by stating, “IMPORTANT: You MUST provide a properly completed application and the required evidence before we can process your application. We can only accept original documents or documents certified by the custodian of the original record. Notarized copies or photocopies which have not been certified by the custodian of the records are not acceptable.”

It goes on to state, “To apply for an original card, you must provide at least two documents to prove age, identity, and U.S. citizenship or current lawful, work-authorized immigration status. If you are not a U.S. citizen and do not have DHS work authorization, you must prove you have a valid non-work reason for requesting a card.”

It specifically points out, “If you are 12 or older and have never received a SSN, you must apply in person.”

In January 2005, President Bush signed Public Law 108-458, the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which required the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in consultation with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Commissioner of Social Security and others, “to promulgate regulation establishing minimum standards for birth certificates,” which, among other things, mandated a requirement for proof and verification of identity as a condition of issuance of a birth certificate.

Public Law 108-458 limited the number of replacement SSN cards issued to any individual to three per year and 10 for the life of the individual, while establishing minimum standards for the verification of documents or records submitted by an individual to establish eligibility for an original or replacement SSN card, other than for enumeration at birth (EAB).

The Commissioner of Social Security was required to add death indicators to the SSN verification systems used by employers and state agencies issuing driver’s licenses and identity cards and allowed the commissioner discretion to add death indicators to other verification routines “as determined appropriate.”

The commissioner was also required to add fraud indicators to the SSN verification systems and make improvements to the EAB application process so as to “prevent the assignment of SSNs to unnamed children, the issuance of more than one SSN to the same child, and other opportunities for fraudulently obtaining a SSN.”

Additionally, the law prohibited federal, state and local governments from displaying SSNs on drivers’ licenses, motor vehicle registrations or other identification documents issued by state departments of motor vehicles.

SSN applicants must provide a birth certificate for evidence of age and, as proof of identity, a U.S. driver’s license, a U.S. state-issued non-driver identity card, or a U.S. passport.

The instructions state, “If you are not a U.S. citizen, we must see your current U.S. immigration document(s) and your foreign passport with biographical information or photograph.”

In all caps it emphasizes, “We cannot accept a birth certificate, hospital souvenir birth certificate, social security card stub or social security record” as evidence of identity.

For evidence of immigration status, applicants must provide a current unexpired document issued by the DHS. If an international student or exchange visitor, additional documents may be required.

It states, “If you are not authorized to work in the U.S., we can issue you a Social Security card only if you need the number for a valid non-work reason. Your card will be marked to show you cannot work and if you do work, we will notify DHS.”

Sonoran News contacted a congressional aide to ask if elected representatives, upon being elected and placed on the U.S. taxpayer-funded payroll, were required to fill out Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

The instructions accompanying Form I-9 provide answers about the purpose of the form and when it should be used.

According to those instructions, “All employees (citizens and noncitizens) hired after November 6, 1986, and working in the United States must complete Form I-9.”

No exceptions are noted.

After contacting Member Services for the U.S. House of Representatives, the aide said she was told members are not required to fill out a Form I-9.

She was told the reason the House does not require a Form I-9 from its members is because the Constitution requires anyone who runs for a seat in the House to be a U.S. citizen for a minimum of seven years. And, when a person runs for office, they must file proof with their state’s election office that they meet the requirements of the office.

However that does not appear to be the case. If it were, Roger Calero, a Nicaraguan national and convicted felon, wouldn’t have been able to appear on the ballot as the Socialist Worker's Party candidate for president of the United States in numerous states. No one appears to be responsible for certifying, under penalty of perjury, that he has examined one document from List A or one each from List B and C, and that the documents presented appear genuine and relate to the candidate, who simply signs a document swearing to be eligible.

There is no apparent law or written policy that exempts members of Congress or other elected officials on taxpayer-funded payrolls from filling out a Form I-9.

Sonoran News continues to seek answers regarding Obama’s fraudulent use of another person’s SSN, the use of which has been cemented in with his fraudulently created Selective Service registration.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; connecticut; criminals; fraud; identitytheft; naturalborncitizen; nojustice; obama; obamafraud; socialsecurity
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To: kidd
What about the claims that Obama’s father (who lived in Connecticut) applied for Obama’s SSN before Obama was 12?

One other thing. The number was issued between 1976 and 1977, so it would have had to have been issued after Obama was 12. Plus Obama Sr. returned to Kenya in 1965 and visited the US once in 1971.

61 posted on 06/03/2010 8:55:24 PM PDT by TheCipher
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To: rolling_stone

I suspect Barack got caught with his wiener in another boys hand and His mom had to get him out of Indonesia fast.


62 posted on 06/03/2010 9:02:21 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: The Comedian; Smokeyblue
"Barry's-illegal-alien-aunt-has-more-documentation-than-he-does ping!"

I never thought of it that way, but you're exactly right.


63 posted on 06/04/2010 3:02:46 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Sounds plausible; but why was he assigned a number that belonged to a guy born in 1890? I am not so concerned about how he got a number as how he got that particular number. The fact that these things were going on that long ago lends credence to the “Manchurian Candidate” theory.


64 posted on 06/04/2010 4:26:59 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: El Gato
But BO never resided in CT or anywhere near there until he attended Columbia, which was well after 1972. So what was he doing applying for the SSN in CT?

The most likely explanation is that he applied for it while living in Indonesia and an office in CT processed his application.

What I find silly about these birther social security fraud allegations is the total and complete lack of any motive on Obama's part. Why would anyone intending to committ fraud apply for a multiple social security numbers using his real name? It makes no sense.

But then again, nothing birthers say ever makes much sense.

65 posted on 06/04/2010 10:04:09 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Josephat
Sounds plausible; but why was he assigned a number that belonged to a guy born in 1890?

He wasn't. It's called a typo.

66 posted on 06/04/2010 10:04:39 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity; El Gato
The most likely explanation is that he applied for it while living in Indonesia and an office in CT processed his application.

Except the number was issued in 1976-1977 when he was living in Hawaii

67 posted on 06/04/2010 10:17:20 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: TheCipher
Except the number was issued in 1976-1977 when he was living in Hawaii

How do you know?

68 posted on 06/04/2010 10:24:46 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Smokeyblue

bfl


69 posted on 06/04/2010 10:26:40 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: curiosity
How do you know?

It is determined by the two middle digits. The digits 68 for Conn. were issued during those 2 years. Here is a site where you can check it ( enter 042 68 ):

Lookup

70 posted on 06/04/2010 10:28:05 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: WKUHilltopper

I’m not so sure the CIA is always doing the right thing by public intentions for the best for USA. There are reports that BHO was actually a CIA enabler in Packistan during the Soviet war. Also there are reports BHO’s mother who was involved with the Ford Foundation which in turn was involved with the CIA in SE Asia at the time. It is interesting if not significant that the Ford Motor Co. was not botherd by BHO when he took over GM and Chrysler. It is my understanding that the Ford Foundation is the actual owner of upwards of 80% of Ford Motor Co.


71 posted on 06/04/2010 10:39:14 AM PDT by noinfringers
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To: TheCipher
I don't believe that website is accurate regarding the year of issuance.

I put in the first five digits of my SSN, and it said it was issued four years later than it actually was.

Was it accurate for yours?

72 posted on 06/04/2010 10:40:42 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: WKUHilltopper

I’m not so sure the CIA is always doing the right thing by public intentions for the best for USA. There are reports that BHO was actually a CIA enabler in Packistan during the Soviet war. Also there are reports BHO’s mother who was involved with the Ford Foundation which in turn was involved with the CIA in SE Asia at the time. It is interesting if not significant that the Ford Motor Co. was not botherd by BHO when he took over GM and Chrysler. It is my understanding that the Ford Foundation is the actual owner of upwards of 80% of Ford Motor Co.


73 posted on 06/04/2010 10:43:46 AM PDT by noinfringers
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To: curiosity
Was it accurate for yours?

Yes, it is accurate for mine.

74 posted on 06/04/2010 10:45:24 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: noinfringers
It is my understanding that the Ford Foundation is the actual owner of upwards of 80% of Ford Motor Co.

LOL. Your understanding is incorrect, as is typical of birthers. Where did you get that little gem of misinformation?

FYI, all of Ford's large shareholders are listed in the proxy statement (starting on page 25):

http://www.ford.com/doc/2010_proxy.pdf

75 posted on 06/04/2010 10:48:05 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: TheCipher
Okay, so at best, that website is only accurate some of the time.

Hence you have no proof Obama's SSN was issued after 1976.

76 posted on 06/04/2010 10:49:00 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

It is also from the PI’s report that the number was issued between 1976-1977. All we have that the database the website uses is inaccurate is your word that your info is inaccurate. Hence we have no proof that the website info is inaccurate.


77 posted on 06/04/2010 10:56:37 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: curiosity
The most likely explanation is that he applied for it while living in Indonesia and an office in CT processed his application.

Why would an office in Connecticut be a likely explanation?? The office you're supposed to contact if you live abroad is in Baltimore.

78 posted on 06/04/2010 11:58:50 AM PDT by edge919
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To: TheCipher

Thanks for that link!


79 posted on 06/04/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Red Steel

Interesting...the graphic you posted with 364-03-xxxx social security number indicates this card was issued in the State of Michigan between the years of 1936 to 1950.


80 posted on 06/04/2010 1:41:24 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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