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Chattanooga, Atlanta MagLev High Speed Rail Project Attracts Obama Administration Attention
WDEF ^ | June 4, 2010 | Joe Legge

Posted on 06/05/2010 12:27:40 PM PDT by Willie Green

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood wants to jump start Mag-Lev development in this country, and says and Atlanta to Chattanooga link makes sense.

LaHood tested a high speed rail system in Japan last month. He compares the Obama administration's push for high-speed rail to the creation of the the Interstate system.

Chattanooga Mayor Ron Littlefield say "I was amazed and surprised and very very pleased that he came out and talked about Atlanta, Chattanooga because I've always felt, even looking at it nationally that there is no project that holds more promise than this project."

The statement comes with a cost. Chattanooga, Atlanta, and North Georgia each need to come up with $1.3 million to cover several environmental studies.

That would make the region eligible for a $2-billion federal grant to begin construction.

City officials also met with representatives from the Japanese company that developed mag-lev this week.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Georgia; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: boxcarwillie; chattanoogachoochoo; choochoocharlie; maglev; trains; transportation
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To: Willie Green
FReepers an Lurkers who want to know about the origin of the interstate system can click here: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/programadmin/interstate.cfm and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Aid_Highway_Act_of_1956

It was about defense, though yes of course mail can be transported on the interstates as well.

21 posted on 06/05/2010 12:49:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: KevinDavis; BenLurkin

Ben, Kevin just volunteered to explain the postal clause to you.


22 posted on 06/05/2010 12:52:28 PM PDT by Willie Green (Klaatu barada nikto)
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To: Willie Green
What is the deal with statists' fascination with friggin' trains?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

23 posted on 06/05/2010 12:54:17 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Willie Green; KevinDavis

Waiting.


24 posted on 06/05/2010 12:54:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Willie Green
I'm less concerned about initial cost than I am about operating and maintenance costs - which never go away. I have some knowledge of Chicago's CTA, and in the 1970s and 1980s it consistently lost money. And that's in a *big* city with a lot of ridership.

I like mass transit personally; I'd just as soon drive less if I could do so economically and in a timely manner. But these systems end up being yet another wealth transfer from one group of citizens to another. And unless you live somewhere like DC or New York or Chicago, they usually don't go *exactly* where you'd like to go.

25 posted on 06/05/2010 12:56:37 PM PDT by Felis_irritable (Fool me once, I'll punch you in the...er, something or other...)
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To: The Comedian

control


26 posted on 06/05/2010 12:57:02 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: Willie Green

$2 billion TO BEGIN building for Atlanta to Chattanooga.

$2 billion for 120 miles of track (x 2?), maybe a couple of station upgrades and trains.

$16.7 million per mile.

Let’s say and impossible number of people commuted on this train every business day. Say 10,000.

Let’s further say that a largish number of people had reason to go from Atlanta to Chattanooga every day. Say 2,000.

That’s 3,000,000 rides per year. An impressive number, and easily a better than best case scenario.

Say you keep up those numbers for six years solid. Very impressive.

Then, not even counting the costs of FINISHING ... the cost of running the train, fuel, personnel, etc., you are STILL subsidizing EACH ride to the tune of $111...A 120 mile trip that can be performed for about $18 in gasoline, even without car-pooling.

I am willing to consider the utility of trains between points with LOTS of traffic in BOTH directions throughout the day. Frankly, Vegas to SoCal might make sense. The Northeast corridor (Boston to DC) can make sense if the infratructure can be done at a reasonable price. There is no such dynamic connection between Atlanta and Chattanooga. I’m sure Atlanta has some nasty traffic, but I am also sure that much of the business in Atlanta won’t be a short jaunt from the MagLev station.


27 posted on 06/05/2010 12:57:30 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Willie Green
The statement comes with a cost. Chattanooga, Atlanta, and North Georgia each need to come up with $1.3 million to cover several environmental studies.

Well, that explains the 33% property tax increase that Littlefield wants to impose on Chattanooga residents.

This rail project draws a huge negative. It's only purpose would be to turn Chattanooga and North Georgia into suburban Atlanta. We DON'T need it. What we need is a true I-75 bypass around the traffic jam known as Atlanta so that I can easily get to Florida and back without dealing with all the crazy locals and their Obambi bumper stickers.

28 posted on 06/05/2010 12:58:56 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: The Comedian
What is the deal with statists' fascination with friggin' trains?

IMHO, it's a herding thing, like gummint run healthcare or living in congested cities in apartment buildings. They can control you better. And the libs are all about control...

29 posted on 06/05/2010 12:59:07 PM PDT by Felis_irritable (Fool me once, I'll punch you in the...er, something or other...)
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To: Willie Green
Chattanooga Mayor Ron Littlefield say "I was amazed and surprised and very very pleased that he came out and talked about Atlanta, Chattanooga because I've always felt, even looking at it nationally that there is no project that holds more promise than this project."

Promise of what, wasting even more money we can't afford. What is it with these people?

30 posted on 06/05/2010 1:03:12 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: WHBates

BTW, Littlefield is extremely RINO, borderline liberal. He started on an annexing frenzy last year and is trying to push the “regional” government concept on the other communities within the county. He’s as power-hungry as a democrat. Apparently, he won’t be running again due to term limits. That has caused him to pull out all the stops on grabbing as much power as possible before he leaves office.

He needs to be booted out of the Republican party for starters.


31 posted on 06/05/2010 1:07:11 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Willie Green

Like we have money to burn..


32 posted on 06/05/2010 1:13:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Doogle

Yes, why not Chattanooga to Detroit? This could bring new people out of Detroit who’ve never traveled in their life. It’d create a chance for Chattanoogians to get out and visit folks of a vastly different social standing. Property values in Detroit would edge up...from $92k per house to probably $98k per house. I think this is a swell idea.


33 posted on 06/05/2010 1:16:50 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Mmogamer; All

The new Chattanooga choo choo! Chewing thru our taxes that is!


34 posted on 06/05/2010 1:30:52 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: pepsionice
Yes, why not Chattanooga to Detroit? This could bring new people out of Detroit who’ve never traveled in their life. It’d create a chance for Chattanoogians to get out and visit folks of a vastly different social standing. Property values in Detroit would edge up...from $92k per house to probably $98k per house. I think this is a swell idea.

Don't give them ANY ideas! For the love of Jove, please avoid importing Detroiters at all costs!

35 posted on 06/05/2010 1:32:59 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Willie Green

There’s hardly enough rail traffic between those two cities to justify a low-speed train. It’s a case of the government trying to find a boondoggle to spend money on.


36 posted on 06/05/2010 1:46:24 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Forty years of electing leftist fools to Congress have culminated in Nancy Pelosi.)
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To: mdmathis6

In all seriousness, I think we as a nation made a big mistake getting away from rail freight and travel. Had we made a steady gain on improvement of rail services through the years it would also not have such a financial impact.

I feel that if we had a high speed mass freight rail system and removed long haul freight trucks from our Interstate Systems we would all be much safer and have ample room on our highways for the future.

Local feight excluded, segregating the freight transport from personal transportation and using the piggyback or container shipping by rail is the way we should be shipping our goods today instead of a truck with one load going from NY to CA.

I am more inclined to invest in a new freight rail system than personal transit at this time.


37 posted on 06/05/2010 1:47:15 PM PDT by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: PROSOUTH
In all seriousness, I think we as a nation made a big mistake getting away from rail freight and travel

Who says we've gotten away from rail freight. I have a train track bordering my backyard here in northern Illinois. Every day, several freight trains, some with 120+ cars go through in both directions. I swear that 15% of all the high fructose corn syrup in this country goes past my back yard.
38 posted on 06/05/2010 2:10:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Let’s further say that a largish number of people had reason to go from Atlanta to Chattanooga every day. Say 2,000.
That’s 3,000,000 rides per year. An impressive number, and easily a better than best case scenario.

No, no, no, no, no.... that's way too low.
This isn't a plane where everybody gets on at one end and gets off at the other. There are people traveling in the other direction as well. PLUS you have to add-in all the people getting on-off at all the stops in between.

39 posted on 06/05/2010 2:19:11 PM PDT by Willie Green (Klaatu barada nikto)
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To: Willie Green

Are all rail projects these days funded by the federal government?


40 posted on 06/05/2010 2:38:15 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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