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Siemens’ High-Speed Rail: These “Cars” Get 700 Miles-Per-Gallon
Investment U ^ | Friday, June 11, 2010 | David Fessler, Energy and Infrastructure Expert

Posted on 06/11/2010 7:43:40 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Yo-Yo
"Trains work in Europe because they’ve taxed fuel to $7.00 per Gallon."

Hush up there. Obozo will hear you.

21 posted on 06/11/2010 8:01:55 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Oldexpat

Its really all about control.

Strip money out of highway funds to build trains and eventually the roads fall apart. Combine that with rising gas taxes and repairs from driving on broken down roads and people will be forced to live within easy access to a train station (in the city)

No more of those filthy rednecks going where they want, when they want.


22 posted on 06/11/2010 8:02:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Obadiah

That station was built with private funds too. So sad.


23 posted on 06/11/2010 8:03:28 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Obadiah

And there you go. Put some Windex on it.

(Brilliant tag line, BTW)


24 posted on 06/11/2010 8:05:07 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: cripplecreek

The highway funds don’t cover the cost of maintaining or building highways anymore. The haven’t for some time.

The train station I wait at was built and owned by a private company long before the government took it over.

You can’t say that about your highway. Talk about government control.


25 posted on 06/11/2010 8:06:26 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

Dagney Taggart. Writ Large.


26 posted on 06/11/2010 8:06:44 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Willie Green

“California plans to spend $2 billion to build a 220 MPH high-speed rail system that would initially connect Anaheim to Los Angeles.”

It is 40 miles from Anaheim to LA. So I’m going to get there in twelve minutes? Yipee!! Of course, I’ll still have to drive 45 minutes to get to the station from my house.

Are they going to elevate the line? It’s either that or dig a tunnel. No way any vehicle is going to travel at those speeds from Anaheim through Fullerton, Buena Park, Santa Fe Springs, Commerce, and into LA crossing surface streets.


27 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:27 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Willie Green

You mean like our little choo choo here that has around 2 people per trip and losing 250K per month. Whose $$ do you suppose that is?

Everybody will be lining up to take a 3 day cross country trip that takes 8 hrs by plane.

Pray for America


28 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:51 AM PDT by bray (Throw the Bums out starting w/McCain)
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To: cripplecreek

Bingo


29 posted on 06/11/2010 8:08:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: thackney
Trains compete with airlines, not personal vehicles.

At 25 mpg, a personal vehicle would have to carry 28 passengers to have the equivalent fuel efficiency of a train.
I don't think even the illegal Mexicans can squeeze that many people into a car and still make it around a bend without tipping over.

30 posted on 06/11/2010 8:08:24 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: outpostinmass2

Actually highway funds are stripped at multiple points and would be a lot more effective if the criminals stripping them didn’t find other means of leeching of the driver.

The rail nazis need to admit that they’re leeches, liars, and thieves with a control fetish.


31 posted on 06/11/2010 8:09:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: patton

Yeah that too.


32 posted on 06/11/2010 8:09:48 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: bray

Last time I took a train, there was a guy in uniform hanging out in the “bar car” all night. I asked him what he was in for.

He said he was the fire tender.

I said, “Um...it is a diesel-electric?”

He said, “Union.”

I said, “Do you even own a coal shovel? For that matter, have you ever seen one?”

“Nope.”


33 posted on 06/11/2010 8:11:17 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Willie Green

It doesn’t serve the same function so it is not a apples to apples comparison.

Does the train delivery me to my home and to my place of work, any business I choose, any schedule I want?

If I want to live with less function and service, I would expect to get a lower cost.

But I value my time and the ability to chose where I want to go and when. That has a cost I am willing to pay.


34 posted on 06/11/2010 8:12:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Obadiah
For Sale: One slightly used Choo Choo building. Rats, pigeons and vagrants included at no extra charge!


35 posted on 06/11/2010 8:12:50 AM PDT by Dem Guard ("Throw the trash out on November 2nd!")
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To: Yo-Yo

“Trains work in Europe because they’ve taxed fuel to $7.00 per Gallon.”

Do you mean $7.00 per LITER, which is about $19.00 per gallon! /s


36 posted on 06/11/2010 8:13:07 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Unless there is a high-speed train running every ten minutes from my front door to anywhere I want to go, I’ll still spend all of that same time waiting at lights.
That's pretty silly.
Most normal people would find it more convenient to simply park at the closest Park-N-Ride.
37 posted on 06/11/2010 8:13:17 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

I don’t really have a problem with high-speed rail. I enjoy traveling by train and have fond memories of doing so in my youth. That being said, it is not a Federal responsibility and it should be able to stand on its own in the marketplace.

I do favor the Federal government establishing a high speed rail standard for the 50 states (57 if you’re Obama) as is their role under Article I Section 8. At least with a federal standard, if states decided to link up their high speed rail networks, they would already be compatible.

Beyond that, it’s an issue for State government and the taxpaying residents of that state. There may be some regions where high speed rail makes sense but those decisions should be made at the State level where the elected officials are closer to the people. Moreover, residents of a state and their state representatives are better equipped to make decisions based on the unique attributes of their state.

Shoehorning states into high speed rail by the federal government is a recipe for waste and disaster — a national “Big Dig”.


38 posted on 06/11/2010 8:13:21 AM PDT by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: outpostinmass2

Highway funds (tolls, tariffs, and gas taxes) cover about 70% of the cost of roads. Show me ANY train passenger system in America that has come close to that in the last two decades and then we’ll talk. Your earlier post that rails is cheaper than highways is a flat out fantasy.


39 posted on 06/11/2010 8:14:17 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Willie Green

700 miles to the gallon, and doesn’t go anywhere near my home or where I work. Absolutely. Useless.


40 posted on 06/11/2010 8:14:44 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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