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Relief well drilling ahead of schedule, Thad Allen says
The Times-Picayune ^ | Thursday, June 17, 2010, 9:55 AM | Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune

Posted on 06/17/2010 12:32:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Drilling on a relief well that is expected to be the longterm solution for stopping the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is ahead of schedule but still unlikely to be completed before August, Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen said Thursday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bp; deephorz; deepwaterhorizon; energy; offshore; oil; oilspill
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1 posted on 06/17/2010 12:32:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
the world hangs on thad's every utterance.

wonder what that feels like.

2 posted on 06/17/2010 12:33:26 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: All

I hope they don’t blow this well as well...


3 posted on 06/17/2010 12:35:05 PM PDT by Maringa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

4 posted on 06/17/2010 12:35:07 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

Lol!
You win!
That is one of the funniest things I’ve seen this week.
Thanks!


5 posted on 06/17/2010 12:37:09 PM PDT by a real Sheila (NOTHING makes SENSE anymore!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is this the same guy that originally announced that topkill had worked?


6 posted on 06/17/2010 12:38:14 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is like watching your house burn down, while the fire chief holds a press conference to praise the department’s exemplatory response time. Too bad about your house, however.


7 posted on 06/17/2010 12:41:15 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought the anti-drilling nutjobs said that once oil is discovered off-shore that it would take ten years to actually get a productive well established. So if we really, really, really tried we could have solar and windmills a goin’ sooner and not need the oil.


8 posted on 06/17/2010 12:43:22 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

My guess is there’s a big difference between a relief well and a production well.


9 posted on 06/17/2010 12:45:12 PM PDT by FourPeas (Need I close my tag?)
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To: Maringa

I’m sure the BP will actually follow proper procedures while drilling the relief wells as the would not want to offend the “little people” along the Gulf Coast.


10 posted on 06/17/2010 12:45:31 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting.

The well is due an August.
The well is ahead of schedule.
The well is still due in August.

Where are the friggin’ straight-jackets?


11 posted on 06/17/2010 12:48:00 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I noticed that also!

It has been a CRAZY 2 months!


12 posted on 06/17/2010 12:54:44 PM PDT by a real Sheila (NOTHING makes SENSE anymore!)
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To: FourPeas

Spot on that’s the only way they can keep the well or Obama and tree huggers will take it from them you know how the Obama freedom works.


13 posted on 06/17/2010 12:56:12 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
This is like watching your house burn down, while the fire chief holds a press conference to praise the department’s exemplatory response time. Too bad about your house, however.

Perfect.

14 posted on 06/17/2010 1:07:46 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Bon mots
Now, 'that' says something. . .or rather 'screams'. . .

Good one; really good one. :^)

15 posted on 06/17/2010 1:15:15 PM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: trumandogz
Every "normal" person here in the USA knew what he meant by little people....

I'm sure he went home and said we are a bunch of a******* and I would agree with him.

Maybe we could get an opinion from Paul McCartney!!!!! :-)

16 posted on 06/17/2010 1:17:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sharon Astyk at ScienceBlogs points the way to a seriously scary comment thread at The Oil Drum, a sounding board for, among others, many petroleum geologists and oil professionals. The comment in question is from a seemingly very knowledgable “dougr.” I’ve highlighted the parts that frightened me the most and left me wondering: Is this why Obama’s praying?

As the Oil Drum staff explains to its own readers regarding this post: “Were the US government and BP more forthcoming with information and details, the situation would not be giving rise to so much speculation about what is actually going on in the Gulf. This should be run more like Mission Control at NASA than an exclusive country club function—it is a public matter—transparency, now!” Amen. Meanwhile, judge for yourself:

“All the actions and few tidbits of information all lead to one inescapable conclusion. The well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. Now you have some real data of how BP’s actions are evidence of that, as well as some murky statement from “BP officials” confirming the same.

“To those of us outside the real inside loop, yet still fairly knowledgeable, [the failure of Top Kill] was a major confirmation of what many feared. That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to.

“What does this mean? “It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot...the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?...the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?...it doesn’t leak so bad, you close the nozzle?...it leaks real bad, same dynamics. It is why they sawed the riser off...or tried to anyway...but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks “down hole”. I’m sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed...because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below.

“Contrary to what most of us would think as logical to stop the oil mess, actually opening up the gushing well and making it gush more became direction BP took after confirming that there was a leak. In fact if you note their actions, that should become clear. They have shifted from stopping or restricting the gusher to opening it up and catching it. This only makes sense if they want to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed.....and that sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kind of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above, all they can do is relieve the pressure on it and the only way to do that right now is to open up the nozzle above and gush more oil into the gulf and hopefully catch it, which they have done, they just neglected to tell us why, gee thanks.

“A down hole leak is dangerous and damaging for several reasons. There will be erosion throughout the entire beat up, beat on and beat down remainder of the “system” including that inaccessible leak. The same erosion I spoke about in the first post is still present and has never stopped, cannot be stopped, is impossible to stop and will always be present in and acting on anything that is left which has crude oil “Product” rushing through it. There are abrasives still present, swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it’s way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?...no one really knows....However now?...there are other problems that a down hole leak will and must produce that will compound this already bad situation.

“This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer’s immense bulk of 450 tons. In fact?...we are beginning to see the results of the well’s total integrity beginning to fail due to the undermining being caused by the leaking well bore.

“The first layer of the sea floor in the gulf is mostly lose material of sand and silt. It doesn’t hold up anything and isn’t meant to, what holds the entire subsea system of the Bop in place is the well itself... The well’s piping in comparison is actually very much smaller than the Blow Out Preventer and strong as it may be, it relies on some support from the seabed to function and not literally fall over...and it is now showing signs of doing just that....falling over...

“What is likely to happen now? “Well...none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact...it’s about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don’t, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.

“Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? ...it won’t be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov’t must be well aware too, they just are not telling us.

“All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of “the worst things you can think of” The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out...as I said...all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn’t any “cap dome” or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now is the only real chance we have left to stop it at all.

“It’s a race now...a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it’s last gasp in a horrific crescendo.

“We are not even 2 months into it, barely half way by even optimistic estimates. The damage done by the leaked oil now is virtually immeasurable already and it will not get better, it can only get worse. No matter how much they can collect, there will still be thousands and thousands of gallons leaking out every minute, every hour of every day. We have 2 months left before the relief wells are even near in position and set up to take a kill shot and that is being optimistic as I said.”Over the next 2 months the mechanical situation also cannot improve, it can only get worse, getting better is an impossibility. While they may make some gains on collecting the leaked oil, the structural situation cannot heal itself. It will continue to erode and flow out more oil and eventually the inevitable collapse which cannot be stopped will happen. It is only a simple matter of who can “get there first”...us or the well.”


17 posted on 06/17/2010 1:24:44 PM PDT by Disgusted in Texas
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I expect the EPA (Environmental Polluters Agency) will start delaying this well completion.


18 posted on 06/17/2010 1:28:44 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Interesting. The well is due an August. The well is ahead of schedule. The well is still due in August. Where are the friggin’ straight-jackets?

Please ... take some time, and actually think about what you have just written.

Think.

Do you have any idea how stupid your comment looks?

Hint: August is a month, and it is 31 days long.

19 posted on 06/17/2010 1:33:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Maybe the completion estimate was moved from “late August” to “early August”?


20 posted on 06/17/2010 2:01:06 PM PDT by glorgau
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