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Breaking: Joe Klein on CNN just said McChrystal has submitted his resignation!
CNN Blitzer interview | Tuesday, June 22, 2010 | DGHoodini

Posted on 06/22/2010 1:25:38 PM PDT by DGHoodini

Time author on CNN stated a WH source told him that McChrystal has submitted his resignation, but Obama has not yet accepted it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; mcchristal; mcchrystal; obama; resignation
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Good. After bammy accepts it, McChrystal can speak freely. I am very interested in what he has to say.

I wonder if McChristal will join Oathkeepers?

221 posted on 06/22/2010 4:18:18 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: DGHoodini

find artical http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236


222 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:24 PM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only age man will be able to glorify Christ, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Spok

Most likely. Now Obama will simply study the resignation, then study possible replacements, then study his studies, then study those studies of studies, then accept, then study possible replacements, then run for reelection and lose.


223 posted on 06/22/2010 4:55:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: DGHoodini
The military members in Afghanistan won't miss him one bit.

He was a 1st class jerk, and his Rules of Engagement (ROE) were a joke. They got people killed.

His banning of the little creature comforts from home the troops had (i.e. Burger King, Pizza Hut) was petty, stupid, and out of line.

He had a staff of "yes boss" synchophants who worshiped him - which is dangerous and wrong. I have seen flag officers who surround themselves with courtiers, and it is literally a lethal combination (lethal for the front line folks that is).

He also told Rolling Stone that he was a proud Obama voter.

Good riddance. I agree with a retired 3 star general who knew McChrystal - and said he was surprised it took this long for McChrystal to implode.

224 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:20 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: DGHoodini

Beginning to look like el 0 should fire him! Seeing how he voted for the loser.


225 posted on 06/22/2010 5:04:18 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: SkyPilot

“He had a staff of “yes boss” synchophants who worshiped him - which is dangerous and wrong. I have seen flag officers who surround themselves with courtiers, and it is literally a lethal combination (lethal for the front line folks that is)”.

Exactly. I worked around some general officers, and their cadre of butt kissing yes men and women was insane. The down side of being a butt kissing officer is that if you hitch yourself to the stars, and if the stars go down, so do you in most cases.

In a way, it’s justice. If a general officer cannot tell the real from the adoration of “I am here for my career, and I will do or say anything to help that along”, then he or she is lost. I sort of know what those O-6 and below are thinking right now, and I have no sympathy for them or for McChrystal. The best officers were always and still those that understood the troops and acted accordingly.


226 posted on 06/22/2010 5:11:24 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: SkyPilot

If he did indeed vote for Obama, as he has supposedly admitted, then I question his judgement. If he’s lying about it, then I question his integrity.


227 posted on 06/22/2010 5:31:06 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: maica

I have an odd read on this. McChrytal is a brilliant mind, but he’s a messiah of this “Peace Corps Special Forces” school. Don’t shoot. Take a bullet, but don’t shoot. To this end, he surrounded him with like-minded men, mainly also also True Believers in the New COIN.

So this philosophy relates to his “trusting” the RS reporter. He believes he can WIN OVER the reporter, by showing how open, unrestricted, peace-corps-ish, great guys we are. Then the reporter will understand us, and he will want to help us, and h will write an overall favorable article.

IOW, McCrystal is a hopeless naif in this situation, and thus probably also in his “war of hearts” for the Afghan people against the Taliban.

Which since the other side knows darn well we’ll be GONE in 4 or 5 years max, all they have to do is keep up a little bleeding of American troops and wait us out.

ALso knowing that the Taliban will outlast the Americans, only foolish Afghans will help the Americans, and risk later Viet-Cong type night visits or worse later. Beheading for starts.


228 posted on 06/22/2010 6:04:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DGHoodini

Let the fun begin.


229 posted on 06/22/2010 6:06:36 PM PDT by b4its2late (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?)
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To: alarm rider

Amen X 1,000. You truly “get it.” It’s refreshing to see such clear thinking about a special realm few Americans can imagine.

Yes men are poison to flag rank officers, but few can resist them when they are SO darn good at subtle sub-rosa flattery that is not even recognized as such.

It takes a sterner heart to deliberately put men under him who will respectfully disagree and say so.


230 posted on 06/22/2010 6:07:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: alarm rider

What’s your take on 228?


231 posted on 06/22/2010 6:09:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DGHoodini

I just have one thing to say about this. I am not going to defend McChrystal because someone that would vote for Obama or Hillary isn’t the brightest bulb out there.

Loose Lips Sink Ships


232 posted on 06/22/2010 6:16:51 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Obama: "President Tarball" (chris37))
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent points, all of them. Not an “odd” read at all, IMO.


233 posted on 06/22/2010 6:21:13 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: DGHoodini
McChrystal sounds like he was a McMixed Bag.

On one hand it looked like he was a "warrior" general, not a political general, who literally fought with his troops and more about their welfare than his next star (I think).

On the other hand, his convoluted “Bushesque” strategy of "counterinsurgency” (COIN) with its confused goals and roles of the military and attendant rules of engagement put our troops' life, limb, and morale at risk.

234 posted on 06/22/2010 6:33:55 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Travis McGee
Travis,

Not an odd read. If you recall general officers like Powell you have the type.

General officers like Powell learned the game in a different set of circumstances. When it came down to being a soldier, he deferred to his instinct to be a political general first and foremost, then to pander to whatever side he thought looked the best in the long run. Powell as I understand it also played the race card to get his way.

McChrystal is a different animal, and your assessment of his “ability” to win over any reporter tells me that he had a staff guy whispering in his ear that he could do no wrong. In effect, he started to believe his own press.

In my experience, general officers who do not do a self analysis ever so often tend to believe that they are as great and monumental as their staff officers tell them they are.

The Romans employed people to tell the generals as they paraded their war prizes that “All glory is fleeting”, and so it is true.

On the positive side, if the stuff really hits the fan, history tells us that men will rise to the occasion, not men like McChrystal, not men like Powell, not men like Shinseki, but men like Patton.

Just my take.

Regards,
AR

235 posted on 06/22/2010 6:35:59 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: DGHoodini
Dear Barack Mohammed

Take this job and shove it up your Kenyan born hole..... I dont work here anymore.

236 posted on 06/22/2010 6:38:35 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: STARWISE

My bet is on the later...20 something groupie speechwriter is hung over from playing beer pong.


237 posted on 06/22/2010 6:49:22 PM PDT by penelopesire ("Did you plug the hole yet daddy?")
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To: Travis McGee

So this philosophy relates to his “trusting” the RS reporter. He believes he can WIN OVER the reporter, by showing how open, unrestricted, peace-corps-ish, great guys we are. Then the reporter will understand us, and he will want to help us, and he will write an overall favorable article.

@@@@@

1) This philosophy could also explain how he could cast a vote for Obama.

2) Taking a reporter on a pub night with his senior staff has to be the stupidest thing he ever did.


238 posted on 06/22/2010 7:08:04 PM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Very good!


239 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:28 PM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: mlizzy
McChrystal's new marching orders have caused an intense backlash among his own troops. Being told to hold their fire, soldiers complain, puts them in greater danger. "Bottom line?" says a former Special Forces operator who has spent years in Iraq and Afghanistan. "I would love to kick McChrystal in the nuts. His rules of engagement put soldiers' lives in even greater danger. Every real soldier will tell you the same thing."...

But they are especially angered by Ingram's death. His commanders had repeatedly requested permission to tear down the house where Ingram was killed, noting that it was often used as a combat position by the Taliban. But due to McChrystal's new restrictions to avoid upsetting civilians, the request had been denied. "These were abandoned houses," fumes Staff Sgt. Kennith Hicks. "Nobody was coming back to live in them."

If this is good for McChrystal, what would bad look like?

Cui Bono?

240 posted on 06/22/2010 7:12:11 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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