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Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is. (Whiny liberal hates Creationists)
True/Slant ^ | 6-28-2010 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 06/29/2010 4:21:08 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is
Charles Johnson
The Lizard Annex 6-28-2010

From PageOneKentucky.com, here’s a video of GOP candidate Rand Paul addressing a convention of Christian homeschoolers, and dodging a question about the age of the Earth.

The questions asked by the homeschoolers in the video: 1) are you a Christian, 2) how old is the Earth, and 3) will you let the UN take our children. Yep, really. And these are the teachers asking these questions. They’re raising a generation of kids who are ignorant anti-science fanatics, afraid that the United Nations is going to come and kidnap them. Good grief.

Did he dodge the question because he’s a creationist and he knows that he shouldn’t reveal it for political reasons, or because he’s not a creationist and he knows he shouldn’t reveal it for political reasons? Either way, this is very sleazy behavior.

My opinion: I think he probably is a creationist, just like his father Ron Paul, because his world view matches the creationist world view in every respect.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; homeschooling; paulestinians; paulistinians; pitchforkpat; randpaul
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To: raybbr

I didn’t realize that that was the goal of religion - to “attract” people. I guess that’s the reason that there are so many churches falling for the “emergent” philosophies. They’ve fallen for the idea that they are to “attract” people.

Nope, Truth is divisive. Always will be.


61 posted on 06/29/2010 6:59:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: PapaBear3625
If I could be confident that a politician would vote for limited, Constitutional government, I would not care if he was a creationist, a evolutionist, a Jew, a Hindu, a Scientologist, or a Cthulhu worshiper

Hallelujah! Preach it again, Brother Bear!

62 posted on 06/29/2010 7:00:26 AM PDT by Teacher317 (It's Islam)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Does it really matter if Paul thinks the Earth was made 6000 year ago or 4.5 billion years ago?

After all, when was “in the beginning”? Can anyone prove it beyond a doubt or does the answer require some faith in the unseen and unknown?


63 posted on 06/29/2010 7:00:52 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: MrB
I didn’t realize that that was the goal of religion - to “attract” people. I guess that’s the reason that there are so many churches falling for the “emergent” philosophies. They’ve fallen for the idea that they are to “attract” people.

If you believe that you should not "attract" people to your beliefs then why criticize them for theirs? What is the point?

64 posted on 06/29/2010 7:03:00 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: allmendream
I find it interesting that, while you seem willing to entertain either argument : neither is based upon physical evidence. In geology, the assumption that the Earth is only a few thousand years old is not a productive assumption exactly because the evidence doesn't support such a position. That is why science should be taught in science class; because it discusses the evidence - not the relative merits of the King James manuscripts and the Alexandrian manuscripts.

There's numerous problems with various forms of radiometric dating. I don't intend to discuss them at this time.

I'm just glad to see Rand Paul on my side. It's as much of a "Go, Team, Rah Rah!!" moment for me as anything else.

As long as we can separate Schooling and State, Evolutionism will die on the vine. There's a lot more Creationists and Theistic Evolutionists than there are Atheistic Evolutionists in these United States, and we breed more children. Without the massive Subsidy that Evolutionism receives from Government School support, it will be wiped out by simple demographics in a few generations.

65 posted on 06/29/2010 7:03:43 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Eagle Eye
I respect, though disagree with, Old-Earth Creationists.

But I'm not going to be offended if Rand Paul refuses to repudiate my own beliefs, y'know?

66 posted on 06/29/2010 7:05:22 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: WVKayaker

Jesus also knew those people were sworn enemies, devil’s children, and not just those who disagreed with him on an issue of ancient history.


67 posted on 06/29/2010 7:07:07 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Maybe Paul doesn’t know how old the earth is.


68 posted on 06/29/2010 7:08:27 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: raybbr

It’s not up to us to “criticize”. It is up to us to quote the truth. This truth is written on your heart and revealed in creation (Rom 2:14), so that “men are without excuse” (Rom 1:20). Your conscience can then bear witness and accuse or defend you (Rom 2:15).

“Religions” that affirm that an individual is a “good person” may be “attractive” to that person, but it is doing a huge disservice by affirming a lie and leaving them thrashing out there trying to justify themselves through “works”, when such works amount to nothing in the realm of salvation.


69 posted on 06/29/2010 7:15:08 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

No one really does - we weren’t there.
There is only one recorded history of what happened by Someone Who was there.


70 posted on 06/29/2010 7:17:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Is it even remotely possible that we do not understand Genesis as well as we think we do?

After all, it deals with some very complex issues that were unknown to the ancient men and had to be communicated through those men.

If they’d understood physics and biology better they might have written it differently. But they didn’t.


71 posted on 06/29/2010 7:18:53 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: raybbr

Sorry, maybe I was too cryptic.

Name calling started this whole thing. you asked if it was what jesus would do...a couple folks have mentioned that he did call people names.

you took that as them calling you an evil viper. I didn’t think so, and I just pointed that out - they were not calling you that name, just answering your WWJD question...

somehow, you took that as jesus giving permission to call people names. again, not sure how/why...then I see someone else said it was permission....I guess I should just get out of the way.


72 posted on 06/29/2010 7:19:14 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Eagle Eye

(Shrugs). As I said — I respect, though disagree with, Old-Earth Creationists. But I’m not going to be offended if Rand Paul refuses to repudiate my own beliefs, y’know?


73 posted on 06/29/2010 7:22:50 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Regarding “...numerous problems with various forms of radiometric dating...”: If you won't discuss them then don't claim them to support your argument [sic].

In your last paragraph, you mention “Theistic Evolutionists”, but then apparently lump all evolutionists together in your subsequent sentence. I did not realize that Theistic Evolutionists are getting a subsidy...could you clarify?

Finally, simple demographics will wipe out evolutionists in a few generations. Why have simple demographics not already wiped out evolutionists? More importantly, why did evolutionists even get a foothold on life? 1,000 years ago nearly everyone was a young earth creationist.

74 posted on 06/29/2010 7:25:51 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
No need to apologize. I got where you were trying to get. It's just that I saw something different in their responses. It's clear that some Christian fundamentalists feel they have the right to judge others by hiding behind Bible verses. To me that it clearly antithetical to the Teachings of Christ as I learned them.

I very rarely come on "religion" threads because of the utter closed mindedness of some of the fundamentalists. This thread is in "news/activism" so I clicked on it and feel free to respond.

Proselytizing is a double edged sword. If done right it can work however most of the people on these threads think the it means demeaning, degrading and insulting anyone who has any questions or even disagrees with them in the slightest.

75 posted on 06/29/2010 7:26:36 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Eagle Eye

I count 8 times in Genesis 1 where the words “after their kind” were used. That’s not an accident. Ancient man understood that phrase, as do we, even with differing levels of understanding of biology.


76 posted on 06/29/2010 7:29:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: raybbr
hiding behind Bible verses

Now THAT'S funny...

77 posted on 06/29/2010 7:31:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: starlifter
Regarding “...numerous problems with various forms of radiometric dating...”: If you won't discuss them then don't claim them to support your argument [sic].

(Shrugs). I see no need to do so.

It's less productive to argue with hardened Evolution-Cultists, than to simply eliminate the Subsidy that they receive from Government Schooling, and out-breed them.

In your last paragraph, you mention “Theistic Evolutionists”, but then apparently lump all evolutionists together in your subsequent sentence. I did not realize that Theistic Evolutionists are getting a subsidy...could you clarify?

Most Americans believe that Creationism should be taught in schools, either as the sole explanation for life on earth, or as an alternative explanation.

The Government Schools do not allow this.

Therefore, Government Schooling should be abolished. It's a system based on Theft, anyway.

Finally, simple demographics will wipe out evolutionists in a few generations. Why have simple demographics not already wiped out evolutionists? More importantly, why did evolutionists even get a foothold on life? 1,000 years ago nearly everyone was a young earth creationist.

Not everyone. There were all kinds of Pagan false religions in existence. Evolutionism is just the latest.

78 posted on 06/29/2010 7:34:35 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Creationists don’t know how old the world is, either.

Some might believe this or that, but they don’t know.


79 posted on 06/29/2010 7:44:11 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Creationists don’t know how old the world is, either.

Some might believe this or that, but they don’t know.


80 posted on 06/29/2010 7:44:23 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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