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Top Republican: Raise Social Security's retirement age to 70
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Posted on 06/29/2010 8:23:18 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Top Republican: Raise Social Security's retirement age to 70 By Michael O'Brien - 06/29/10 10:50 AM ET

A Republican-held Congress might look to raise the retirement age to 70, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) suggested Monday.

Boehner, the top Republican lawmaker in the House, said that raising the retirement age by five year, indexing benefits to the rate of inflation and means-testing benefits would make the massive entitlement program more solvent.

"We're all living a lot longer than anyone ever expected," Boehner said in a meeting with the editors of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. "And I think that raising the retirement age -- going out 20 years, so you're not affecting anyone close to retirement -- and eventually getting the retirement age to 70 is a step that needs to be taken."

The GOP leader said that Social Security was the most important entitlement to reform, though he also pledged that Republicans would bring legislation to the floor to repeal and replace the healthcare reforms passed earlier this year if the GOP wins back control of the House this fall.

But Boehner also floated several other reforms to Social Security, paired with raising the retirement age, to make it more solvent. Boehner said that benefits should be tied to increases in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) instead of wage inflation, and he suggested reducing or eliminating benefits to Americans with a "substantial non-Social Security income" while retired.

"We just need to be honest with people," he said. "I'm not suggesting it's going to be easy, but I think if we did those three things, you'd pretty well solve the problem."

Republican have made cutting spending and reforming entitlement programs a key part of their 2010 campaign message.

Watch the entirety of Boehner's explanation below:


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The Dems will use this as ammo.........
1 posted on 06/29/2010 8:23:19 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m all for it. we’re living longer and healthier. adjust to the times.


2 posted on 06/29/2010 8:24:35 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Sub-Driver

3 generations ago, “retirement” was a rare luxury

we have forgotten and been lulled


3 posted on 06/29/2010 8:25:22 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The Dems will use this as ammo.........

Which is why this problem will never be solved leading to Social Security's unavoidable insolvency, which in my estimation is EXACTLY what the Dems want. They want to replace Social Security with a more comprehensive cradle-to-grave social program, and they'll do it out of the chaos of a failed Social Security.

4 posted on 06/29/2010 8:26:07 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Sub-Driver

Republicans need to clear out 90% of the Social Security “disability” payments. It’s going to the same folks who used to get welfare - but now don’t have to keep having kids to stay on for life. Also, the moochers undermine the program for those who really are disabled.


5 posted on 06/29/2010 8:26:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (More people are killed every year by falling vending machines than by holders of concealed-weapons)
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To: Sub-Driver

End it gradually. Let those who are 20+ years out get out of this ponzi scheme.


6 posted on 06/29/2010 8:27:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If I am able to do so, I’m going to take mine at 62. And run away with the money. :)


7 posted on 06/29/2010 8:27:52 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Sub-Driver
As long as I can remember, every blue ribbon commission appointed to come up with a plan to save Social Security has recommended this, within the mix.
8 posted on 06/29/2010 8:28:04 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I have an idea!

Let me keep my own damn money and I'll retire when I want to retire! Sheeze...


9 posted on 06/29/2010 8:28:26 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Sub-Driver

Boehner should be cheered for having the guts to recommend this.

Instead he and all Republicans will be vilified.


10 posted on 06/29/2010 8:28:31 AM PDT by eCSMaster (He promised hope; he gave us hype. He promised change; he gave us chains!)
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To: Sub-Driver

And what are those laid off over 60 workers who have been contributing all their lives (nay, FORCED TO CONTRIBUTE) going to do for the meantime ?

Try finding a job at that age after you have been laid off (often because of your age).

Why not try something else — LIKE STOPPING THE RAID OF SOCIAL SECURITY TO PAY FOR CURRENT BUDGET EXPENSES.

We’ve been talking about the lockbox since Al Gore made the term a comedy signature at SNL, but we have not even implemented it.


11 posted on 06/29/2010 8:28:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Sub-Driver

Means-testing would be a brutal betrayal of the tax-paying middle class. Forget it. Tweaking the eligibility schedule and regular increases makes sense.


12 posted on 06/29/2010 8:28:58 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I actually have no problem with this...HOWEVER...the fact that the Social Security system has been over-promised for years presents a problem....plus the fact that there is NO LOCK BOX for the funds...they’ve used them! er...they’ve STOLEN the funds!


13 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

When SS was first instituted the average life expactancy was 62 (women) and 56 (men) [I may be off a couple 0of years- I am going from my mory- but the point is] Social Security kicked in at age 65 - so no one was expected to collect on it, it was a MONEY GRAB

Then when people started living longer, it became a VOTING BLOCK

I feel no sympathy for oldsters who voted themselves their grand-childrens money

Hey! Why dont we just LOAN OURSELVES $10 trillion dollars- payable in the year 3000 (let THEM worry about it)


14 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Boner is a total idiot. This loses the Elderly and babyboom vote. He cut our nuts off. The GOP is full of morons and losers...
15 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:23 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: elpadre

If they means test it, Sosha Security will become just another welfare program.


16 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:26 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Sub-Driver
Hopefully most of these people will die before they ever get the money government confiscated from them, then looted the fund...

That's what this is all about.

17 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:34 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Sub-Driver

Boehner has the rare and exceptional gift of saying the exact wrong thing at the exact wrong time based upon the exact wrong plan.


18 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:34 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Sub-Driver

at the time social security was implemented the average life expediency was 65 to raise the age only five years will not be enough, we need the defined contribution model with individual oversight,yes good ‘ol personal responsibility!
Yeah there are those who hate that stuff!


19 posted on 06/29/2010 8:29:37 AM PDT by mtnjimmi ("The government is best which governs least." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sub-Driver
Hell, raise it to 120.

I wonder what fraction of SS outlays is for people UNDER the retirement age. SSI, surviving spouses, etc.

20 posted on 06/29/2010 8:30:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Sub-Driver

Rot in hell, Boehner!

Just like a scumbag politician who doesn’t need the money to say crap like this.

I’ve been working and paying into this siphon since 1964, cannot collect full benefits until I’m 67, now he wants to make it 70?.

If I had all of the money that’s been stolen from me for the past 46 years, I could retire now.

Rot in hell, Boehner!


21 posted on 06/29/2010 8:30:42 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Sub-Driver
When SS was first instituted the average life expectancy was 62 (women) and 56 (men) I may be off a couple of years- I am going from my memory, but the point is Social Security kicked in at age 65 - so no one was expected to collect on it, it was a MONEY GRAB

Then when people started living longer, it became a VOTING BLOCK

I feel no sympathy for oldsters who voted themselves their grandchildrens' money

Hey! Why don't we just LOAN OURSELVES $10 trillion dollars- payable in the year 3000 (let THEM worry about it)

22 posted on 06/29/2010 8:30:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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To: Sub-Driver

If we’re going to keep this ridiculous system, and it appears that we are, then it needs to be done. (Says one who is finally getting to draw his after paying in for over40 years.)


23 posted on 06/29/2010 8:30:49 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (No matter where you go there are always more stupid people.)
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To: Ancient Drive

You are welcome to be all for it. I am not.

Forget fixing it. END IT!!!


24 posted on 06/29/2010 8:31:18 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: GOPJ
Republicans need to clear out 90% of the Social Security “disability” payments. It’s going to the same folks who used to get welfare -

OTOH, the average life expectancy of black males is about 65. Thats a whole swath of people looking to get "theirs" through the back door.

25 posted on 06/29/2010 8:31:19 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Sub-Driver

Why not end Welfare and other entitlements first?


26 posted on 06/29/2010 8:31:58 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Raise it to 100, then only a few will collect benefits.


27 posted on 06/29/2010 8:32:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: avacado

I so agree!

The bureaucracy alone would save billions.

If we got rid of all the alphabet agencies in DC there would then be enough workers available, that not one illegal alien would have a job.


28 posted on 06/29/2010 8:33:14 AM PDT by wita
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To: Frenchtown Dan
Rot in hell, Boehner!

He's got his government lottery style retirement benefits...

You on the other hand, can eat dirt.

29 posted on 06/29/2010 8:33:25 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: SeekAndFind

I have to agree here. I’ve just found a position after being laid off at 53. Took me 4 months. At least I’m not having as “would you like fries with that....yet!”

The problem with SS (interesting abbreviation noted..) is as you say. It is a giant Ponzi scheme. If it were set up as a savings plan instead AND the government stopped raiding it continually, then it would be solvent by definition.

Then we have the discussion of whether the government is a good investor - wouldn’t be nice to at least be in territory where that was the problem set instead of the bankruptcy the system is currently staring at.


30 posted on 06/29/2010 8:33:38 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Sub-Driver; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; ...
RE :”But Boehner also floated several other reforms to Social Security, paired with raising the retirement age, to make it more solvent. Boehner said that benefits should be tied to increases in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) instead of wage inflation, and he suggested reducing or eliminating benefits to Americans with a “substantial non-Social Security income” while retired.

This is all Boehner can come up with given all Washington's dramatic increases in spending first under him, then Pelosi? Screwing us again(where's the trust fund? Gone!) to pay for Obama's spending? Don't worry, Congress and federal employees pensions are secured. Why don't they have to work and pay taxes till 70? Here's to all the freepers that have been posting that Republicans would save us.

31 posted on 06/29/2010 8:33:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Boehner was exempting those close to retirement from his proposed change in the age to receive benefits.


32 posted on 06/29/2010 8:33:55 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: Ancient Drive

How about 80? Or 90? The point is to make sure as few collect SS as possible, isn’t it?


33 posted on 06/29/2010 8:34:01 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Sub-Driver

well, we could just get rid of all of Obozocare except the death panels

did we have to bring this up before the 2010 elections?


34 posted on 06/29/2010 8:34:38 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Boehner has the rare and exceptional gift of saying the exact wrong thing at the exact wrong time based upon the exact wrong plan.

Exactly. When something unpleasant must be done, you figure out how to make the other side take the blame. Politics 101.

35 posted on 06/29/2010 8:34:38 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: eCSMaster

Boehner failed to mention privitization, which is the real solution. Perpetuating this Ponzi scheme should be a non-starter.


36 posted on 06/29/2010 8:34:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: silverleaf

3 generations ago life expectancy for a male was 53.6 years.
Coincedently that was the retirement age.


37 posted on 06/29/2010 8:34:57 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Sub-Driver

Yet they allow government workers to retire after twenty years of driving buses in Boston, at age 55 for cops, teachers, and a slew of others, and they retire bureaucrats only to rehire them full time. And, these bastards do not pay into Social Security. They will want our retirement savings taxed to support their government elite pensions. Its a racket. The mob moved from the streets to the govenment.


38 posted on 06/29/2010 8:35:30 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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"We're all living a lot longer than anyone ever expected," Boehner said...

Yeah, you career politicians live a lot longer today. Best healthcare in the world at no cost, incredible work schedule, perks up the yin yang, a ridiculous retirement wage that you never put a penny of your own money into and no physical labor. Yeah...raise the age to 85...or pass a law that says no one can retire at all. FU

FMCDH(BITS)

39 posted on 06/29/2010 8:35:40 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yet they allow government workers to retire after twenty years of driving buses in Boston, at age 55 for cops, teachers, and a slew of others, and they retire bureaucrats only to rehire them full time. And, these bastards do not pay into Social Security. They will want our retirement savings taxed to support their government elite pensions. Its a racket. The mob moved from the streets to the govenment.


40 posted on 06/29/2010 8:35:40 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Didn’t bother to read did you?


41 posted on 06/29/2010 8:36:24 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Sub-Driver
John Boehner (R-Ohio)

Bet you Boehner collects upwards of $100,000 per year in lottery style government retirement benefits...

42 posted on 06/29/2010 8:36:46 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Ouderkirk

“Forget fixing it. END IT!!!”

I hear this a lot. Maybe those that like to think about going down this road should not sign up for it when they retire.


43 posted on 06/29/2010 8:37:15 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: sickoflibs; Liz
This is all Boehner can come up with given all Washington's dramatic increases in spending first under him, then Pelosi? Screwing us again(where's the trust fund? Gone!) to pay for Obama's spending? Don't worry, Congress and federal employees pensions are secured. Why don't they have to work and pay taxes till 70?

It's time for the "Tea Party" to become an official political party and dump the GOP...

44 posted on 06/29/2010 8:37:26 AM PDT by GOPJ (More people are killed every year by falling vending machines than by holders of concealed-weapons)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah. Wouldn’t it be nice if there were jobs for men until they reach 70. Real nice. Wouldn’t it be real nice if men could choose to retire at 70 after many years of work. Real nice.

This liberal elitist has no idea of what it is to be in the world of work.


45 posted on 06/29/2010 8:37:36 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism: severe deterioration of the thinking apparattus)
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To: GOPJ

My husband is on disability through no fault of his own. Everyone acts like it is so easy to get disability. Believe me, it isn’t. Sure, there are some who probably shouldn’t receive it, but I believe most are truly disabled.


46 posted on 06/29/2010 8:37:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ancient Drive
you desk sitters and banker types can wait til 80 if you want....there's those of us who do demanding physical and emotionally draining work and we can not wait til 70.....

it amazes me that a politco....most of them never having worked an honest days work ever, want others who do to work til they drop dead..

working til 70 will mean you pay in for many more years and the chances of ever getting anything you paid in back are severely diminished...of course, thats' the whole charade...

47 posted on 06/29/2010 8:37:57 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Sub-Driver

So we just keep raising the age until all the those who paid in all their lives are dead before they ever see a dime back from their investment? How is that any better than watching the whole system collapse? Or is the baby boom generation just being asked to take one for the team and give up what they’ve paid for all their lives to bail out the generations before and after them? Unfortunately I think this is the case and, even worse, there is no other solution. So, I’m now supposed to trust the same people who robbed me of a significant portion of my life’s earnings with all of my medical care and decisions? That is sheer insanity.


48 posted on 06/29/2010 8:38:17 AM PDT by circlecity
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49 posted on 06/29/2010 8:38:44 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Ancient Drive

I don’t disagree with your point. That being said i can see a few problems that an elected rep might not see in light of the fact that mr Byrd was gainfuly employed until 92.
Will companies be willing to keep a 69 or 70 yr old on their payroll?
With no job creation what happens to high school and college grads with even fewer jobs available as older workers stay even longer in the work force?
Should pushing back the age one qualifies for SS suddenly turn the projections around will the govt decide they can spend any savings from that as they have looted the program all these years?
Finally,the biggie. Govt employees get pensions,in many cases big fat ones. They don’t rely on SS to put food in their mouths or keep a roof over their heads. Will that be adressed? Will they be forced to live like the rest of (the non unionized) society?
I personally would have no problem working longer just to make that clear.


50 posted on 06/29/2010 8:39:25 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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