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1 posted on 06/29/2010 1:45:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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2 posted on 06/29/2010 1:45:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Very interesting. I had not grasped this change - until now.


3 posted on 06/29/2010 1:49:28 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (Reconciliation will happen in November.)
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Obama tried to do a similar thing when he was a State senator. He thinks of himself as a constitutional scholar; that is, he thinks he is better than the Founding Fathers and has wisdom about how to change the Constitution.

He started using the lingo "all men are born equal" instead of "all men are created equal" to justify his abortion stance.

4 posted on 06/29/2010 1:49:30 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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While the president may be a learn on the job novice when it comes to being an executive politician, I believe the guy is an experienced talker who picks his words carefully.


5 posted on 06/29/2010 1:50:26 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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Freedom of worship means that you can hold services inside of a building tha the government allows to be used for that purpose. Ok for a Cathedral or for a rented stadium, but not for any “public” building like a school auditorium or school stadium.


6 posted on 06/29/2010 1:50:45 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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All good points! It also occurred to me he may be setting us up for mini mosques inside public buildings like airports for daily worship.
7 posted on 06/29/2010 1:51:19 PM PDT by red tie
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Worship is a government-restricted privilege.

Religion is a right.

Freedom of worship is the same as freedom to pay taxes.


8 posted on 06/29/2010 1:51:24 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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Ping to read later


9 posted on 06/29/2010 1:52:58 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503089/posts?page=9#9)
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I just mentioned this to hubby and he mentioned that under Hitler, people were allowed “freedom of worship” but not freedom of religion. Scary that he is using those same words.


11 posted on 06/29/2010 1:55:18 PM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermantor - 2012 - www.hermancain.com)
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You are free to worship as you wish in private, for now, except for those Christians who’ve been ordered to stop holding church services in their home.


12 posted on 06/29/2010 1:55:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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13 posted on 06/29/2010 1:55:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof… – US Constitution
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If that ever changes to

Congress shall make law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof… – US Constitution

We know which religion will become the state religion...

and which one will be prohibited...


14 posted on 06/29/2010 1:57:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To the headline: because he is a dip sh#t.


15 posted on 06/29/2010 1:57:47 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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Islam is not a religion?


17 posted on 06/29/2010 1:58:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Obama Worship, Services 24/7 on MSNBC. Worship is for the messiah! and government.


18 posted on 06/29/2010 1:59:11 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453 (SARAH PALIN 2012)
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>> Some in the State Department argue the words “religion” and “worship” can be used interchangeably and there is nothing to worry about.

Nonsense.

Worship is ambiguous whereas Religion is not. Worship could be interpreted as an action.

>> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof… – US Constitution

One does not establish worship!


20 posted on 06/29/2010 2:03:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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This will not end well if he/they continue down this path.

In order to implement their end-game policy, they will have to inter or kill millions of people,

because otherwise, those people will rise up in dissent and rebellion.


21 posted on 06/29/2010 2:03:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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Worship is only a subset of all that constitutes religion, so this change in language could signal an attempt by the left to narrow religious liberty, which of course they despise since they despise religion (the exception at the moment being Islam, which they can’t help but like in an enemy-of-an-enemy-is-a friend kind of way).


22 posted on 06/29/2010 2:03:58 PM PDT by Yardstick
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because there will only be one religion


23 posted on 06/29/2010 2:04:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Just say NO to conservativecave.com, it rots your teeth!)
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It’s amazing how badly this has been stretched out, the establishment clause and the freedom of religion.

What the founders sought to end, was the idea of a national church, wherein EVERY CITIZEN was a member and the tithing happened through a withholding that was then sent to that church. This is the way it happens in Germany (I think until recently), and its the way it happened in England.

The states could do what they wanted to. Period. As for the United States as a nation, the founders DID NOT WANT a national church.

This had ZERO to do with the idea of an expression by people within government that they were ARDENT believers in God, Christ, Christianity. In fact, one of the more shocking things is to travel to DC, go to the Lincoln Memorial, and actual see the Gettysburg address carved into the wall in giant letters. As it stands today, it is a direct violation of what ACLU activists would call ‘Church and State’.


24 posted on 06/29/2010 2:04:29 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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