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Key Republicans say the borders must be secured first before the government considers legalizing illegal immigrants, and they point to recent violent incidents — including the killing of an Arizona rancher — as evidence the border is still not under control.

But Democrats argue that legalizing illegal immigrants has to be done at the same time, both for practical reasons and because they fear if the borders are secured first, it might sap momentum from the push for legalization.

"Our borders are just too vast for us to be able to solve the problem only with fences and border patrols," Mr. Obama said. "It won't work."

1 posted on 07/01/2010 12:28:20 PM PDT by Anita1
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When I’m found breaking the law, I’m punished.

When they’re found breaking the law, they’re allowed to get away with it.

And they’re lecturing us about how unfair this system is to them....


2 posted on 07/01/2010 12:30:17 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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Re: “”Our borders are just too vast for us to be able to solve the problem only with fences and border patrols,” Mr. Obama said. “It won’t work.”

Try it for once Mr. O!


3 posted on 07/01/2010 12:30:47 PM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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The Reps should welcome being on the “immigration hot seat.” The majority of Americans agree with us. They are against amnesty, want the border secured, and favor lower levels of legal immigration. I wonder if the “Stupid Party” will be smart enough to take a principled stand that is also the best one politically.


4 posted on 07/01/2010 12:31:42 PM PDT by kabar
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With the federal government’s lax attention to this problem, and the illegal immigrant spill that has pushed tens of millions of illegals into our country, where do Barack Obama and Joe Biteme get off at “lax” oversight of offshore drilling?

MR. PRESIDENT, PLUG THE HOLE ON THE BORDER!


5 posted on 07/01/2010 12:31:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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"Our borders are just too vast for us to be able to solve the problem only with fences and border patrols," Mr. Obama said. "It won't work."

Disingenuous, strawman... no one is suggesting that all is needed are fences and borders. I'm glad that the Dem posturing on this is no longer working. The American people have caught on.

jw

6 posted on 07/01/2010 12:32:35 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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This is a battle the republican party should WELCOME.

But they'll run & hide, as usual.

9 posted on 07/01/2010 12:39:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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I have a two word answer that's cheap and has been around for years and is full proof in securing our borders... Bouncing Betty's!
10 posted on 07/01/2010 12:39:27 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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All we need to do is play that King George III, I mean Cong. Pete Stark video over and over again. Tie it to any and every democrat, then see who is on the hot seat.


11 posted on 07/01/2010 12:40:15 PM PDT by Waryone
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Obummer, the Demorats/Progressives, and the open-borders crowd are against any measure that could work.


12 posted on 07/01/2010 12:42:49 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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I saw the speech, what I got from it:
1. that legal immigrants are the same as illegal immigrants.
2. Republicans are racist
3. This is all about their blood or where they were born (Republicans are xenophobic)

Someone needs to get in his face, this freaking BS has to stop. This is giving them a pass with the most vile accusations without anyone refuting them.


13 posted on 07/01/2010 12:47:31 PM PDT by dila813
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LOL, f you Obama.


14 posted on 07/01/2010 12:51:16 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somwhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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Immigration, Cap & Tax, Obamacare - the gifts that just keep on giving.


15 posted on 07/01/2010 12:52:36 PM PDT by b4its2late (I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here.)
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FUBO!!!


17 posted on 07/01/2010 1:01:37 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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Key word here: “tries”.........as par, it results in failure because most of the American people know the deal with this idiotPOTUS...heads up, 2012 fast approaches Jack Squat.


18 posted on 07/01/2010 1:02:01 PM PDT by cranked
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OK, this is what baffles the heck out of me.

Reps and the pResident work for US. We tell THEM what to do.

We are telling them to SHUT THE BORDER FIRST, and do it NOW.

Second set up “Operation Wetback II” and force them out of the country or encourage them so strongly to self deport, they all disappear overnight. It has worked in the past and it WILL work today.

Third, SHUT THE HELL UP AND DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD TO DO WASHINGTON D.C.!!!


20 posted on 07/01/2010 1:18:03 PM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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This is an Alinskyite attempt at distraction and diversion to divert people's
attention from his own incompetence at handling the Gulf oil spill disaster.

22 posted on 07/01/2010 3:26:07 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Seems to me that it has been proven in the past that fences work - IT WAS CALLED THE BERLIN WALL !!! But, it actually extended for hundreds of miles ...

Only, its purpose was to keep people in - not out !!!


24 posted on 07/01/2010 3:48:58 PM PDT by Lmo56
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Mark my words> If “reform” passes this country is finished. THEY KNOW THAT, and they know THAT YOU KNOW THAT. Obama will try and destroy this country before his term is up. We will think of him as the devil, the left will think of him as a martyr. The military is in their pocket. The higher ranks were infiltrated by the left long ago. We will either let this country go down the tubes passively, or it will trigger civil war...


25 posted on 07/01/2010 4:24:33 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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If the GOP is afraid of the “Latino” reaction to opposing amnesty they should be crapping their collective pants about the reaction of their base if they don’t.


26 posted on 07/01/2010 4:40:37 PM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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In the mid 70’s I saw illegals coming into Shenandoah Co Va. They were Mexican, humble and under the radar. A few of them married local girls to stay in the country. But most of them went home after the apples were picked. They caused no trouble so we let them do their work that we did not want and said nothing.

How I wish we could have those days back and raise a stink in a time that would have sent those fellows packing. I just took a visit home last week and found those humble fellows now quite brazen. The murder rate for the county is way up from the zero of years gone by. They have their own bars and restaurants.

They have ruined the culture and infiltrated things that do not belong to them. They treat my home county like it was their own spawning their legal brats (who can someday become president) meanwhile getting away with murder. I wish that the valley could be purged of every last illegal living there. But sadly we missed our last chance about 20 years ago.


27 posted on 07/01/2010 5:34:15 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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