Posted on 07/12/2010 12:15:09 PM PDT by fathers1
She would name them and all would be tested prior to the adoption proceeding.
“Make us.”
Well, ok, don’t, but don’t be surprised when your kids get killed, or single mothered, or put up for adoption, or raised by another man. And be prepared for child support bills. All the responsibility of fatherhood with none of the rewards. Then you can get embittered and hate women in general.
She didn't know so she took the child and fled before she could be stopped. She KNEW there was a chance that he was Dad. She didn't care. It was about what SHE wanted. And SHE wanted someone else's child.
They did a DNA test.
“Do we finally understand the wisdom of our ancestors and their adherence to biblical piety?
Do we understand the sanctity of marriage and why it is so vital to a civilized society?
Do we understand that our civil laws were written to protect children?”
Amen!!!
Isn’t amazing how the liberals twist things into “It’s for the children,” when it is really just pure selfishness?
Ohio has a Putative Father Registry meaning meaning if a guy thinks he’s the *might* be the father he files while they wait for DNA results. It is supposed to stop adoption proceedings and protect the father’s rights in the interum.
I’m not sure I know what you are saying. Obviously, if the natural mother wants to be cooperative, she can help identify the father. But what can she be forced to do? Name names? And what if she names 100 names, and 100 DNA tests come back negative?
I like women, generally. One in particular. But not many of us got here becasue a man kept his pants on. And marriage is not sure-fire protection against bad stuff happening either.
He is not going to get the kid back, he has been convicted of child endangerment and the Ohio family court will rule that the now bonded daughter is better off with her family...
It’s sad because they stripped him of his rights without due process when that process would have led to his losing the kids two years ago...
There is nobody in this case who is remotely appealing as a human being, except the baby girl.
But any person in her situation would know for sure that there IS a biological father who might or might not know about the baby.
Perhaps you are arguing for adoption only when there is a clearly identfiied and proven father who has consented to the adoption.
“They did a DNA test.”
Yes. Which proves paternity, more or less.
I’m not sure where you go with that.
That's not mentioned in this article.
“Ohio has a Putative Father Registry...”
And the system actually seems to have worked in this case. The natural father has asserted his rights, and they are being recognized.
I don’t think we are in disagreement.
That is how it works and yes they will test all and keep testing. I know a guy who had to go and do this once with a women. He was mortified to find out there were 13 other guys waiting to be tested for the same thing for her.
This article is embedded at the link.
‘Don’t take my child,’ California mother begs
In fact, Mr. Mills had filed his complaint for paternity and custody before Ms. Doss was approved as the placement through the Interstate Compact on the Placement of Children and before Ms. Doss and his daughter left the state of Ohio.”
Don't take my child indeed. But she'll take someone else's.
“Doss and her mother arrived in Dayton on June 14, 2008, the day after Vanessa’s birth. ... ‘It wasn’t until the end of September that we got the result of the DNA testing.’ “
When was the baby’s DNA tested and why? Was it court-ordered? When did the biological father get his DNA tested? How long did it take to get the results back?
The questions I am getting to are: Who should have been the baby’s caregiver from June 13th to the end of September? Should the prospective adoptive mother been given custody during that period and allowed to take the baby out of state?
Perhaps some believe babies should be taken from their adoptive parents and put into some sort of foster care as soon as a man, any man, initially states “Hold everything! It might be mine!” If so, a whole new method of legal blackmail has just been created.
No easy answers. Other than celibacy, or maintaining a DNA registry of every male in the country and testing every baby at birth, how can cases like this be prevented?
Ouchy, you mean business.......I agree with you....
No, there is no sure-fire protection.
We could all stay in bed to avoid bad things happening to us, and you know, bad things could happen there.
However, the best protection men have against being exploited by devious women is postponing sex until marriage.
After that they can take their pants off all they want! And make many more FReepers.
Sure, they could still get burned. But for example only 3-4% of abortions in this country are performed on married women.
So you have much much better odds.
“But for example only 3-4% of abortions in this country are performed on married women.”
Not quite.
Here are two sources - one pro-abort, one pro-life:
“Marital Status
“Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.”
Thus, 17% of abortions are committed on currently-married women.
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts/women_who.html
“Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions...”
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html
The abortion folks say 17%, the pro-lifers say 18.4%.
Close enough for me.
But it's not 3 - 4%.
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