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Ohio Man Seeks Return of His Daughter Taken in Adoption Try
www.fathersandfamilies.org ^ | 07/12/10 | Robert Franklin, Esq.

Posted on 07/12/2010 12:15:09 PM PDT by fathers1

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This is the heart-rending case of a little girl she named Vanessa, her father, Benjamin Mills and the woman who wants to adopt her, Stacey Doss.
1 posted on 07/12/2010 12:15:16 PM PDT by fathers1
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To: fathers1

Men, keep your pants on until you get married.

It is for your own protection as well as your child’s.

Women can abort your kids without so much as notifying you.

And don’t tell me you use birth control. It is not anywhere near 100% effective.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 12:17:34 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

“Men, keep your pants on until you get married.”

Make us.


3 posted on 07/12/2010 12:23:33 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: fathers1

‘Adoption doesn’t have to be complicated.’

But it does take a long time.

We started trying to adopt an older child 3 years ago. Last year, we finally was introduced to our first child at the end of July (two years into the process).

We are FINALLY going to finalize the process with her at the first of August (one year after we met).

If parents were made to wait that long before they were permitted to have a baby, we might just have better parents.


4 posted on 07/12/2010 12:23:57 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: swain_forkbeard

I believe that all of the paperwork involved is sworn so Perjury can be brought to bear on these people. Once this ‘father’ gets his kid back it’s time some States Attorney convenes a Grand Jury or two and bring some indictments.


5 posted on 07/12/2010 12:26:24 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: fathers1

In the leftist lexicon of Newspeak, racism = I don’t like you. The term has been overused into irrelevance.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 12:28:19 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Make us.

:::rummaging around::::

Now, where's that darned weed eater?

7 posted on 07/12/2010 12:28:26 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

All that heartache for a few moments pleasure.


8 posted on 07/12/2010 12:29:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Persevero
Men, keep your pants on until you get married.

Single, celibate and sane works for some of us.

/johnny

9 posted on 07/12/2010 12:31:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Sounds like a tough one to prosecute to me. When a mother says she doesn’t know who the father is, what does that mean anyway? It must mean that there are several candidates and thus no certainty. So, obviously, whenever a woman claims not to know who the father is, she can never mean that there is no father. She must always mean that she can’t be sure who the father is becasue she had multiple sex partners. How could you ever prove that she lied about that?


10 posted on 07/12/2010 12:35:13 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: fathers1

Do we finally understand the wisdom of our ancestors and their adherence to biblical piety?

Do we understand the sanctity of marriage and why it is so vital to a civilized society?

Do we understand that our civil laws were written to protect children?


11 posted on 07/12/2010 12:37:33 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: fathers1

There should be a way to punish the people here who tried to deny the father his rights. The Mother lied and it looks like the adoptive Mother knew ths wasn’t right but did it anyway. Both here should have to pay.


12 posted on 07/12/2010 12:37:44 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: DJ MacWoW

“All that heartache for a few moments pleasure.”

Yeah it doesn’t seem wholly RATIONAL, does it?


13 posted on 07/12/2010 12:39:20 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: fathers1

It’s not heart rending at all.

I have no sympathy for the kidnapper Ms. Doss. She knowingly tried to steal a man’s daughter.


14 posted on 07/12/2010 12:41:24 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: chris_bdba

As I pointed out before, how can you prove the natural mother lied? Claiming not to know the identity of the father is identical to claiming multiple sex partners.


15 posted on 07/12/2010 12:42:23 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: fathers1
Apparently he’s fathered other children with whom he has little or no relationship.

These children are currently living with grandmother who has custody. This is also where little Vanessa would live.

16 posted on 07/12/2010 12:43:19 PM PDT by Faith
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I dont feel sorry for the new “Mommy” one bit...

what kind of example would sher be to this child...lying, deceit, illegal adoption...

She knowingly attempted to deprive the father of his right to his daughter...

She should have included him in the proceedings...

and then if/when he had been proven to be unfit she would have walked free and clear with the baby...

Or if he got the baby and then became unfit in the future...which he may very well do...

She would have a strong case for adoption since she had prior proven herself capable of considering the childs “best interests” and not her own wants...

Now however she has proven to be unfit herself..

and capable of lying to the court and duplicity...

He now has a stronger case than ever...

If he gets the child and is declared unfit in the future, she will not have any rights to claim the child...or very little..


17 posted on 07/12/2010 12:43:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jewbacca

How did Doss know he was the father before seeing DNA test results?


18 posted on 07/12/2010 12:43:22 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: fathers1

Benjamin Mills better be very careful here. He is playing with fire.

I wouldn’t be suprized if some feminist family court judge rules against him, and for the adoptive mother, AND RULES THAT HE MUST PAY CHILD SUPPORT FOR 18 YEARS.

(Think that won’t happen?)


19 posted on 07/12/2010 12:43:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: swain_forkbeard

No. It isn’t rational. Men give their babies to murderous women all the time.


20 posted on 07/12/2010 12:44:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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