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Obama’s Second Act: If he wins another term, he’ll only get worse.
NRO ^ | Krauthammer

Posted on 07/16/2010 10:22:12 AM PDT by keep your powder dry

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To: keep your powder dry
A second Obama term would effectively end our Constitutional Republic. He will pack the Supreme Court with leftists and continue with government takeovers of major parts of the economy. Personal liberty and freedom of speech will be things of the past as new "fairness" rules will remove dissent from all media including the Internet. The country will be in economic collapse. I would expect to see mass immigrations to countries like Australia and Canada.

I could also see a second Obama term causing armed rebellion. a military coupe or a secession of many states from the union.

41 posted on 07/16/2010 11:26:01 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: The Great RJ
I could also see a second Obama term causing armed rebellion. a military coupe or a secession of many states from the union.

We can only hope & pray this is the case. Secession & a separate conservative country is the only solution. Or an American Rev II, in which every demoRAT politician in the country (local, state & federal) is rounded up & sent to prison or the gallows.

42 posted on 07/16/2010 11:31:38 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: twigs
I heard one pundit suggest that after the house goes Republican in November, Obama will move to the middle and then run again on that.

Yeah, I wouldn't bet the farm on that prediction. We also have the story of Rahm Emmanual planning on leaving the Obama Administration (I think) by the end of the year, because Obama is too committed to political idealogy versus political reality. If the story is true (as I believe it is based on zero's actions to date), then, IMO, it is unrealistic to believe that he will shift to the center for the remainder of this first term.

I don't doubt his ability to pull the wool over people's eyes again, I just don't see it happening. And, I DO see his dedication to his idealogy in spite of mounting opposition to his policies.

43 posted on 07/16/2010 11:37:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Biggirl
That is why this mid term is very important.

I don't have the same expectations of a Republican takeover that, perhaps, you do. I don't see the Republicans stepping up to overturn any of zero's policies other than (lack of) healthcare. There is no indication that they have returned to their conservative roots or that they have have learned any lessons from the drubbing they got at the ballot box in '06 and '08.

IMO, the 'Pubbies will do what they are best at - going along to get along so that the Dems will like them. They have never figured out that the Dems see them as doormats, at best, and I believe that zero will pretty much continue to have his way in Congress.

IMO, the 'Pubbies are simply not the "good guys in white hats" that so many here believe them to be. They are still spineless, gutless, quivering masses of cowardice that they have always been and I see nothing that has changed.

44 posted on 07/16/2010 11:47:08 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: twigs

I really think we will end up in a civil war before its all over.


45 posted on 07/16/2010 11:48:39 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: keep your powder dry

Frightening thought. Good work Charles. Although I cannot imagine even in my worst mightmare that this could happen, being forewarned is fore-armed.


46 posted on 07/16/2010 2:24:30 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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To: Biggirl

Wait and see. The same idiots that put him in power originally will re-elect him. For the same reasons.


47 posted on 07/16/2010 3:59:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: DustyMoment
Elect a majority of constitutional conservatives in the House and Senate, and you won't have to REPEAL. Unconstitutional laws can be annulled by simple majority vote on joint resolutions, without a presidential signature. Let the Bozo whine; let the RINO commie apologists (such as Krauthammer and his ilk) whine and wince.

Listen to Cece Heil's explanation about the Obama Health Care bill -- if it is unconstitutional, it is VOID. A simple joint resolution, by simple majority of Congress, will be sufficient to declare it unconstitutional and VOID; not voidable, but VOID as of the date of passage. The same can be done with the other 90% of unconstitutional federal laws.

CECE HEIL explains why she is running for the 5th Congressonal District in Tennessee

48 posted on 07/17/2010 1:01:13 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: keep your powder dry

Will Hillary Clinton be able to pre-emptively pardon him when she takes office in January 2013?


49 posted on 07/17/2010 10:14:43 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: DustyMoment

Do you really think that he wants this job and not just the perqs?


50 posted on 07/17/2010 10:15:37 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: twigs
I think the 1994 Republican victory helped Clinton get re-elected in 1996.

Good reminder.

51 posted on 07/17/2010 10:17:44 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: twigs; Noumenon
Don’t count on it. I heard one pundit suggest that after the house goes Republican in November, Obama will move to the middle and then run again on that. Obama lies to suit his current goal. People have short memories. It could work. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans, but I don’t.

Normally I wouldn't have too much faith that enough of the population (fellow citizens) would be awake enough to understand the gravity of the situation and what needs to be done (otherwise we wouldn't be in this deep of a national nightmare would we?).

However, this creature has to be the most polarizing political figure that I can think of, at least in this country. I don't think there will be a situation over the next couple of years in which people drift back and forth between support/opposition to this regime. Except for the small fraction of "citizens" that are fully committed statist ideologues, call it 10% at most, the vast majority of people that voted for this creature fall into the following categories:
- largely ignorant (willful or otherwise),
- led by an asinine "white guilt" of some sort,
- eagerly looking for a lifetime supply of handouts,
- or just wanted to be on the "inside, cool side" of cultural happenings.

That is, for the most part, they had no freaking clue as to what they were voting for.

Now that we are at 19 months and counting, and more and more of the purely evil and dangerous intents and actions of this regime are exposed, more and more people will wake up. (Remember, one of the most remarkable aspects of that creature's campaign was the almost total lack of any substantive descriptions of specific policies or actions to be undertaken; it was all this very nebulous (and highly malleable to the perceived desires of a given audience) "hope and change" nonsense.) And once they do awaken, and sort out their own nonsensical reasons for making a grave mistake in 2008, they will not be left sitting on the fence. That is, I don't see too many people shifting their support/opposition back and forth depending on what type of lies are being told. For once they do indeed wake up and grasp the level of deceit and pure destructive evil that they had mistakenly bought into, they are not likely to be fooled twice.

That's my working theory at the moment (and maybe I am just grasping at straws to give myself comfort enough to sleep more than a couple of hours each night!). It is what I sense that is starting to happen in this country. Of course I could be very wrong; very, very wrong. However, I believe that the careless, reckless, and arrogant manner in which this regime has "governed" has planted the seeds for its downfall (way too much, way too fast (and with an arrogant smug look on its face all throughout)). So no matter how much more clamping down comes before 11/2012, they have overplayed their opening hands and there will not be enough sheep left to fool again. (Even if we see major assaults on our freedoms to share information openly, e.g., severe censorship of the Internet and talk radio, the very fact that such draconian measures are undertaken will prove to be more troublesome for the regime than useful.)

Of course all of this assumes a legitimate election process in both 2010 and 2012. Absent wholesale fraud and rigging, I would doubt that no more than 15% of the voting public will allow themselves to be manipulated and abused again. Add that 15% to the 10% that are the committed statists that we described above, and you got about 1/4 of the country voting for another term of rapidly hardening tyranny and death, not enough to carry the day.

As I said above, I could be very wrong about how this plays out. And last night as I drifted off to sleep I was nowhere near this optimistic about anything. These thoughts above sort of crystalized for me throughout the day today. While I think that I have been desperately looking for something in all of this chaos to make me feel better for quite sometime, I have been missing any evidence of a public turning point. Earlier today I was listening to Kudlow on his weekly radio show (even though he angered me so much in the past that I swore him off). For some, perhaps masochistic, reason I decided to tune in again while I worked out in my shop. What I found very encouraging was the fact that he didn't immediately cut off and tune out a few of the callers that made intelligent and rational descriptions of what this regime was actually doing in front of our faces and what appears to be the underlying motivations for these actions. I know that even 2-3 months ago he would have immediately talked down calls such as these and made light of them. Perhaps I am reading too much into Mr. Kudlow's apparent awakening, but I have coupled that with the fact that the business community (at least significant members of it) are finally getting up the nerve to call this regime out publicly. Maybe I am premature in my identification of a true turning point, only time will tell.

52 posted on 07/17/2010 3:57:08 PM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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To: Genoa
“one and done”

But the GOP had to go and run Dole. His to lose, it was said. Which he did.

53 posted on 07/17/2010 6:03:34 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: twigs

In ‘94 the GOP ran on Clinton’s ‘92 promises and in the following two years many of the best of them came to pass. In the years since 2000 almost every one of them has been undone. It is all rather shameful really.


54 posted on 07/17/2010 6:13:11 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: SMARTY

Excellant observation!


55 posted on 07/17/2010 6:20:04 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: ex-snook
If Obama is planning on a second term, he is running the worst campaign imaginable.

Last January, Zero told Diane Sawyer he'd rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president.

In an interview by Rusty Humphries (starting at about 10:30), Michele Bachmann recounts a private meeting in the basement of the Capitol between Republicans and Obama shortly after the election at which Obama said very clearly he'd rather be a one-term president and enact his agenda than be a two-term failure.

56 posted on 07/17/2010 6:29:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Gondring
Do you really think that he wants this job and not just the perqs?

Yes. One, he can't get the perks WITHOUT the job and two, he believes his own publicity - IOW, he thinks he really IS the reincarnation of the Messiah!!

57 posted on 07/19/2010 5:56:59 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: meadsjn
Elect a majority of constitutional conservatives in the House and Senate, and you won't have to REPEAL.

Un-huh. Show'em to me. Since last year, I have been asking where all the CONSERVATIVE candidates are to replace the leftists and RINOs up for re-election this year. They haven't exactly come crawling out of the woodwork. You only pointed me to the campaign of one person.

Given that we have NOT seen a wealth of conservative candidates on the scene to replace the leftists and RINOs, it means that we are left with retreads. Retreads that voters tossed out of office in the past for whatever reason. IMO, these folks are NOT going to get the job done and, IF the 'Pubbies manage to take control of one or both Houses of Congress in November, they will dither and talk a lot, but actually accomplish little to get America moving in the right direction again (the opposite of zero's "right" direction).

58 posted on 07/19/2010 6:05:07 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: keep your powder dry

If Obama gets re-elected, there will be the real possibility of violence and bloodshed in the streets.


59 posted on 07/19/2010 6:15:57 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: zzeeman
Great post, zzeeman. Point by point:

...for the most part, they had no freaking clue as to what they were voting for.

True. There's a good third of the populace who are simply detached from any sense of what's unfolding around them. Bereft of any sense of history - or even any interest in the same - they'll be the ones most surprised by the trainwreck that coming at them. Day-to-day, they jsut don't see it. Although the growing ranks of the unemployed are startign to wonder jsut what the hell's going on. But clueless nonetheless. Trouble is - these are precisely the kind of people who clamor for the 'man on the white horse' when TSHTF. And they're going to get him.

For once they do indeed wake up and grasp the level of deceit and pure destructive evil that they had mistakenly bought into, they are not likely to be fooled twice.

No kidding. and more to the point, there's no one more angry and hankering for a reckoning than someone who realizes that they've been the victim of a swindle. Have our intended masters bee na tad, oh, say, overambitious? Why yes, I believe that they are. It's that vey impatience to usher in the ever-immanent New World and with it, the New Man that makes them so damned dangerous - and so monstrous. Strip away that urge for Utopia and you'll find those 'monsters of the id' that turned out to the surprising bogeyman in a classic '50s science fiction flick. The desire for Utopia - legitimate for some - is merely the maskirovka that our ruling elites use, consciously or not, to disguise their lust for absolute power - and all of the horror, mass murder and atrocity that comes with the gig.

Here's the picture: you cannot rule a free and prosperous people. You must first kill many if not most of them, impoverish the rest and keep them permanently on their knees. This is the goal of the elites who despise us precisely because we are free and not subject to their bidding. Communism, fascism and all of the totalitarian 'isms' are merely the means to an end. Power is the name of the game.

Recall what Orwell's character O'Brien from his prescient 1984 had to say in consideration of power and its uses:

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.

Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

What pure power means you will understand presently.

We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites.

The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods,but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

Power is not a means; it is an end.

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

The object of persecution is persecution.
The object of torture is torture.
The object of power is power.

That's who we're dealing with. There's only one way this can end. And it won't be in the voting booth.
60 posted on 07/19/2010 10:46:06 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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