Posted on 07/17/2010 11:32:00 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
That is COMPLETELY misinterpreting what Krauthammer is saying.
One would have to have NEVER read a column of his or NEVER heard him give analysis on Fox News to believe that Krauthammer believes that Obama is IMPROVING the country like Reagan.
Hitler also came to do things, and did much in his first 500 days. That statement doesn't mean he did GOOD things.
And by the way, it is utterly foolish for people here to be over-confidently writing Obama's political obituary and dismissing his chances out of hand.
I agree with Krauthammer that Obama would probably prefer the Republicans to have nominal control of Congress to run against in 2012.
The MSM, Hollywood, schoolteachers, professors, and all the forces of popular culture will then have their targets to demonize and make into the enemy. Think Gingrich was slimed? or Dick Cheney? Wait until they get through with Mitch McConnell and John Boehner.
The one competent thing Obama ever does is demagogue and demonize. It is a mistake not to take that seriously and marshall all resources to fight it. Dismissing him and the forces he representes lightly will only ensure the statist future.
Here is the link to Krauthammer’s column.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071504593.html
Thanks, EEE. Those two links pretty well expose the Emperor Charles and his Crown Dunce Obama.
” Krauthammer voted for, and supported, Obama
The irony is that functioning ObamaCARE would have ended
Krauthammer’s career - if not his life.”
Irony of all ironies.
You might find this interesting.
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2010/07/seriousness-of-governor-palin.html
Palin has been right 100% of the time when it comes to O.
It a “ I told you so” since the convention.
” Krauthammer and his RINO ilk are stealth commies; they can’t capitulate fast enough, all the while saying resistance is futile. “
Exactly, and take RINO “open borders” Barnes and feed them both to the gerbils!
A fair number have labeled him some sort of genius, which probably tends to diminish the objectivity of those who view him that way.
He's not ADVOCATING high taxes, you dope - he's PREDICTING it.
Do you NEVER listen to Krauthammer? He's been saying for months that the Rats will make a big push for a VAT tax, as the politicians will come to believe that that is the only way to close the deficit. Giving cover to raise taxes is the whole point of the farcical "Deficit Commission" as Krauthammer has pointed out.
I happen to agree with Krauthammer that following the "report" of the "Deficit Commission" that after the election there will be a big push to raise taxes, and likely a push for a VAT. That does NOT mean I AGREE with having a VAT or having high taxes. And anyone who regularly reads or listens to Krauthammer knows he does not either.
Kraut has jumped the shark.
“I agree with Krauthammer that Obama would probably prefer the Republicans to have nominal control of Congress to run against in 2012.”
Huh? Do you know how he’s going to look when the investigation s and the Congressional subpoenas start to fly? You are crazy if you think this will help him. The GOP congress did not help Clinton win in 1996. That is the standard liberal line to try to slime what was a conservative Congress. Krauthammer laps it up as do you.
It was Bob Dole’s ineptitude as a candidate and the second Perot Candidacy that assisted Clinton. The GOP Congress was not a factor. It could have been a factor if Gingrich and Dole ad stood fast when the Clinton shut the government down. They folded like a cheap suit. If they had stood fast, it would have taken the wind completely out of Perot’s sails.
Well, enlighten everyone then. Instead of insulting a fellow freeper how about a REAL discussion. You could, instead of hurling insults, explain why you think Krauthammer means something different than what he wrote and why past comments of his led you to that conclusion. Otherwise you’re the one who sounds like an uninformed nut.
Cindie
This won't happen because it affects Obama's constituents. They can't find a way to tax crap that they don't buy without being called 'selective'.
The only other segmented pot of money his constituents don't mainly have a stake in are 401Ks, IRAs and Stocks and Bonds holdings. THIS is where the money grab will be. BET ON IT!
I got put off by Krauthammer a while ago. For some reason, though, I read a column of his, probably was on a thread, regarding his impressions of Obama when they were face to face in some type of meeting or interview. BO and his people must have slipped Krauthammer the same mickey they gave Noonan. He was alternately awed and appalled at “the tremendous intellect of this president.”
You can take this as a fact though I will not source it for you out of consideration for the source: Obama’s IQ is 110. And Krauthammer is gullible as well as elitist.
Your opinion of him is correct. (Of course that’s just my opinion.)
That is perfect.
Huh? Do you know how he’s going to look when the investigation s and the Congressional subpoenas start to fly? You are crazy if you think this will help him. The GOP congress did not help Clinton win in 1996. That is the standard liberal line to try to slime what was a conservative Congress. Krauthammer laps it up as do you.
You seem to have a serious problem with reading comprehension.
I said that OBAMA probably prefers to run against a Republican congress. And I explained why. I didn't say that I think it would be best for Obama to run against a Republican congress.
But you are a fool to be dismissing out of hand Obama's chances at reelection.
One has to wonder if you aren't a troll trying to get conservatives to feel complacent or over-confident.
“He’s not ADVOCATING high taxes, you dope - he’s PREDICTING it.”
Read the column. Then ask yourself who is the dope. He says Obama’s policies will “necessitate” huge tax increases. That is simply false. It ignores both the reality of the bill(s)’s dubious constitutionality and the power of Congress and the Executive Branch under a new President to defund and dismantle Obama’s creations.
“I happen to agree with Krauthammer that following the “report” of the “Deficit Commission” that after the election there will be a big push to raise taxes, and likely a push for a VAT.”
After the election there will be NO TAX INCREASES. Do you know what is going to happen in November? Speculating about what some Commission says is a complete waste of time, but Washington fixtures like Krauthammer do that all the time. It makes them sound so...intelligent. (Like saying Reagan’s tax cuts COST the government money when the reverse is true)
And their little acolyte drones just nod in agreement. Pathetic.
People said the same thing about ObamaCare, that "it will never happen." I remember arguing on here for months with posters who said don't worry, there is no friggin' way Obamacare will ever pass.
The big advantage to statists of a VAT tax is that it is a stealth tax as far as most voters would be aware. It is collected from businesses in the chain of production, and not from the public at large like an income tax, and to most of the voting public it will just seem like a retail sales tax.
The social welfare states of Europe have it, and that is the model the liberals look to.
You understand the difference, I trust...
Well, then, it's a very good thing that you've thrown your gigantic brain into the fray, to show us what REAL intelligence looks like.
I don't know, they could pass a VAT and include some sort rebate scheme for the poor. Obamacare has subsidies to help lower income people purchase insurance, and even Fair Tax proposals have plans to rebate the tax paid amount to the poor.
A rebate scheme for a VAT would make Medicare fraud and EITC fraud look like penny ante poker.
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