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Will disarming elderly be next 'gun control' push?
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | July 20, 2010; 10:39 AM | David Codrea

Posted on 07/25/2010 1:47:00 PM PDT by Gondring

"With the 85-and-older population growing faster than any group in the country, gun ownership among the very old is increasingly a concern of adult children, who worry that elderly parents will commit suicide or shoot someone they mistake for an intruder," Dale Russakoff writes in The New York Times' "The New Old Age" blog.

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I've always and consistently maintained anyone who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian. But even then, we need to ascertain the ability of the custodians to provide security care in addition to everything else.

We have an aging population. Many of us still have parents, others of us are starting to realize we ourselves aren't getting any younger. The decisions we are or will be faced with aren't easy ones. That means there is no one-size-fits all solution where we can just pass another "gun control" law and consider the problem solved.

We need to have this discussion in the gun community, to develop tools and resources to help us help ourselves and our loved ones.

Or we could just let government take over and make the best decisions for us.

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The Nanny-Staters are out to grab all rights from the elderly, not just RKBA.
1 posted on 07/25/2010 1:47:02 PM PDT by Gondring
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To: Gondring
"With the 85-and-older population growing faster than any group in the country, gun ownership among the very old is increasingly a concern of adult children, who worry that elderly parents will commit suicide or shoot someone they mistake for an intruder,"

Lies, lies, lies......

2 posted on 07/25/2010 1:51:26 PM PDT by b4its2late (You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.)
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To: Gondring

As 2010 comes to a close, and as a great many elderly kill themselves so that their heirs can inherit an estate without worrying about estate taxes, we will hear some sad stories. And then the disarming of the elderly will appear quite sensible to some folks.


3 posted on 07/25/2010 1:51:41 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Gondring
“Concerned” adult children won't say anything to upset their parents out of a “concern” they may change the will. Sweeping legislation is needed to take the guns and keep the geezers out on the highway where they can't hurt anybody who has not consented to violent death.
4 posted on 07/25/2010 1:51:45 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Gondring

The elderly will no longer have a reason to commit suicide. The obama state-rationed health care, with Dr. Death at the helm, will be happy to kill them all. And the other good news is that President Death will do it without guns.


5 posted on 07/25/2010 1:52:13 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Gondring

They’re going to need guns to defend themselves against the Kevorkian brigades.


6 posted on 07/25/2010 1:53:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes... we’ll hear, “it’s for their own good” and “if only they hadn’t had access to a gun” and “they had no right to do that! They don’t own their lives..The State does!”


7 posted on 07/25/2010 1:55:56 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Come and get it!! Photobucket
8 posted on 07/25/2010 1:56:25 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (What a fool believes, No wise man has the power to reason away)
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To: Gondring

Shouldn’t we just let Obama Kare dispose of them?


9 posted on 07/25/2010 1:58:23 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: Gondring

The elderly may need that firepower more than any other time of life as they may be looked apon as prey.


10 posted on 07/25/2010 2:01:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: RedMDer

The criminals in this Administration look at the elderly and disabled as prey.


11 posted on 07/25/2010 2:18:26 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: Gondring
"While there are few reports of elderly gun owners shooting relatives or caregivers..."

The first thought that springs to mind is that they seem to be formulating a solution for something that's not any sort of a significant problem. LIBS!

12 posted on 07/25/2010 2:24:33 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

I guess next it will be take away the sharp tools, medicines, etc.


13 posted on 07/25/2010 2:29:10 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Gondring

Oh no they won’t either.


14 posted on 07/25/2010 2:37:32 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Gondring

Best NEVER say you suffer any form of memory loss or depression to your doctor.

And you better start refusing to get on the scales.


15 posted on 07/25/2010 2:37:41 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Gondring

I’d say that the elderly are the LAST ones you’d want to try to take a gun from.


16 posted on 07/25/2010 2:37:55 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: Gondring

Oh no they won’t either.


17 posted on 07/25/2010 2:38:24 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Gondring

Oh no they won’t either.


18 posted on 07/25/2010 2:38:24 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Gondring

MOLON LABE !!


19 posted on 07/25/2010 2:42:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: RedMDer

They’ll never take me alive!


20 posted on 07/25/2010 2:49:27 PM PDT by donhunt (Where does this totalitarian ashwipe get off telling me I can't chose for myself?)
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To: Gondring

And who decides who is elderly?


21 posted on 07/25/2010 2:55:04 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, BAD for AMERICA.)
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To: b4its2late

You mean they can remember where their guns are?


22 posted on 07/25/2010 3:00:06 PM PDT by edcoil (OK, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: edcoil

They know where thier gums are. Sheese, Its locating the teeth thats the problem. :)


23 posted on 07/25/2010 3:06:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: RedMDer

That’s funny. have a great day.


24 posted on 07/25/2010 3:23:03 PM PDT by edcoil (OK, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: Gondring

OMG!
Guns?
What guns?
I sold all of mine at one of those “no questions asked buy-back sales”...
...it was many many years ago...
...can’t exactly remember when...
...but I took the money to a casino and lost it...
...wink wink nudge nudge.


25 posted on 07/25/2010 3:26:12 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: Gondring
Create another defense free zone for thugs and robbers for the Brady killers.
26 posted on 07/25/2010 3:26:33 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Gondring
Dale Russakoff; The New York Times.

I am genuinely concerned. lol

27 posted on 07/25/2010 3:31:34 PM PDT by verity (Obama, the BS and rhetoric President)
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To: Brad's Gramma

>>I’d say that the elderly are the LAST ones you’d want to try to take a gun from.<<

Because ......when an older person decides they are unable or too tired to fight with you, they’ll just kill you.


28 posted on 07/25/2010 3:32:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: B4Ranch

I was thinking along other lines. Like they were raised in an era where people had SCRUPLES.

A man’s home, his possessions....were his. Until/if he decides to give them away.

Not only that, man, they’re freaking ORNERY!!! :)


29 posted on 07/25/2010 3:35:58 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: B4Ranch

I pity the fool who tries to go after my MOTHER’S guns...


30 posted on 07/25/2010 3:36:28 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: Gondring
Maybe they saw this classic:


31 posted on 07/25/2010 3:40:18 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Repeal The 17th
You're kidding! Exact same thing happened to me!
32 posted on 07/25/2010 3:43:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

What a co-ink-i-dink!


33 posted on 07/25/2010 3:48:04 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

>>Not only that, man, they’re freaking ORNERY!!! :)<<

Lady, You’d better say that with a smile on yer face. Not only am I an ornery old buzzard, I’m grouchy too. (nasty grin)


34 posted on 07/25/2010 3:49:11 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: B4Ranch

I ain’t scared of you! Ha!


35 posted on 07/25/2010 3:50:49 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

You just ruined my day. Humph!


36 posted on 07/25/2010 4:05:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: B4Ranch
FINE!

I am absolutely positively shaking in my (bare feet) boots scared of you! Always have been, always WILL be!!! Wow!

Is that how you wanted me to word it??? I deleted the instructions..

37 posted on 07/25/2010 4:27:29 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I see your PMS is bothering you today. You can stop growling ‘cause you’re scaring the dogs.


38 posted on 07/25/2010 4:47:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: Gondring

They can have my guns, one bullet at a time!


39 posted on 07/25/2010 4:48:20 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: b4its2late

Unfortunately, it isn’t. Spend a little time in South Florida. Families here tend to be fairly well aware of what their elderly parents are up to. There are elderly people who have lost the ability to deal with reality. Mostly, the children ignore the guns until a paid caregiver complains about grandma whipping out her old .38.

When this happens, the family can no longer ignore the problem. Grandma or grandpa is senile and armed. If the family loses the home healthcare, the parent goes to a nursing home. If they take away the guns, they must finally admit that their parent is no longer the responsible and mature adult that gave them life and raised them.

I’m in the middle of this now. Although my mother never owned firearms, it is not easy to accept the fact that she is no longer mentally competent to have one.


40 posted on 07/25/2010 5:54:44 PM PDT by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!!!)
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To: Gondring

If the “death panels” don’t silence them, our SEIU thugs will.


41 posted on 07/25/2010 6:21:00 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Gondring

They will have to pry my gun from my old arthritic hands......


42 posted on 07/25/2010 7:00:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10 v 19)
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To: GailA

“Best NEVER say you suffer any form of memory loss or depression to your doctor.”

That goes for all ages. A doctor can already report you to the NICS system as being mentally defective thanks to the NICS “Improvement” Act. That will cost you your gun rights without due process. They can also alert LEO’s who will be more than happy to come and take them by force.


43 posted on 07/25/2010 8:17:08 PM PDT by Dayman
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To: DanielRedfoot
LOL!! Priceless. Would love to see the Brady Brigades trying to take Granny Clampett's favorite shotgun...

the infowarrior

44 posted on 07/25/2010 8:54:40 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Gondring
I'm ancient, I'm armed, I'm provisioned, and I'm waiting...

Semper Fi!

45 posted on 07/25/2010 10:29:10 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
As 2010 comes to a close, and as a great many elderly kill themselves so that their heirs can inherit an estate without worrying about estate taxes, we will hear some sad stories

LOLOL!! That would be sad, indeed. Plan ahead. Give everything to a trusted child, ahead of time, in percentage increments. Divide the estate before your death.

I'd rather have my parents around (and they are, great-great grandparents), taking care of my grandmother, than gone and inherit anything in a hurry.

To hell with that bunch in DC, we'll outlive them!!

46 posted on 07/25/2010 11:01:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: BuffaloJack
And who decides who is elderly?

Note how these crooked MSM and the democrats are skillful at lying by calling 23 year olds as "children".
So by that same elastic standard they will probably call anyone over 40 as "ELDERLY" so as to gain maximum coverage for their evil plans.

47 posted on 07/26/2010 2:27:40 AM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: Dayman

You are on target. At 62 I just keep my mouth shut at the doctor’s office. Of course my Internist is a staunch CONSERVATIVE. But he is retiring early because of 0’nazicare.

Next we know they will be reporting us for which RX drugs we take. I take 5 mg of valium for Fibromyalgia muscle pain, not as a nerve pill. Sure works better than that Lyrica, which has so many horrible side effects.


48 posted on 07/26/2010 6:41:56 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: GailA
Next we know they will be reporting us for which RX drugs we take.

They already are. Controlled substances prescriptions are tracked at the State level to keep track of patients who may be receiving multiple prescriptions from different doctors or pharmacies. Any healthcare professional or law enforcement officer can review your data.

Don't think so? Here's a link to one State's registry.

49 posted on 07/26/2010 6:48:58 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I saw Ellen Page bend a Paris street into a cube and it looked as real as the moon landing.)
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To: edcoil

LOL! Bad....


50 posted on 07/26/2010 6:51:18 AM PDT by b4its2late (You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.)
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