Obama’s 'problem is he was born a Muslim,' Rev. FranklinGraham says

NY Post ^ | August 20, 2010 | NEWSCORE

[Scanian]

The influential Evangelical leader Rev. Franklin Graham said President Barack Obama was “born a Muslim” since the religion is “passed through the father’s seed,” in a CNN interview Friday.

Graham’s comments came in response to the recently released Pew Research Center survey that showed nearly one in five Americans incorrectly believed Obama was a Muslim.

Graham told CNN: "He was born a Muslim. His father was a Muslim; the seed of Islam is passed through the father like the seed of Judaism is passed through the mother.

"He was born a Muslim; his father gave him an Islamic name,” the son of noted evangelist Billy Graham, said.

“It’s obvious that the president has renounced Islam … the president says he is a Christian, and we just have to accept it as that,” the Samaritan's Purse CEO added.

[CitizenM]

I never heard that, but I will accept that he said it, because Obama uses words to appease any particular group to whom he is talking. Words that have no basis in truth, but throw up smoke and cloud the truth.

However, a person is not a Christian just because they make that statement.

Somewhere he had to have attended a true Christian church, or was baptized a Christian, or studied the Bible, or something...that truly shows he became a Christian in some way. You can't just walk around and say you are a Christian if you have not, somewhere, attended a Christian church pretty regularly, participated in Christian prayer, or even joined a church. I know not all Christians actually join the churches they attend, but they do attend. I think if Obama had been a regular participant at some Christian church, in regular services, there would be some knowledge of that. All we know about Obama's religious practice is that he attended Wright's church for 20 years, and that is not a Christian church but some offshoot of the Black Liberation Theology religion. Hardly an orthodox Christian church because it teaches hatred, retribution, vengeance, and the pastor used God's name in vain in damning America. That, is NOT Christian. So, I still want to see proof that he actually became a Christian.

[Katydidnt]

In 2004, he gave an interview to Cathleen Falsani who was the religion reporter at the Chicago Sun-Times.

“FALSANI:
Who’s Jesus to you?

(He laughs nervously)

OBAMA:
Right.

Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.

And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.”

A Christian, really?

Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/11/obamas-interview-with-cathleen.html#ixzz0xFOD1IiE

[BelegStrongbow]

Not even close. Typical of Obama to miss a point sitting right in front of his nose.

[truthandlife]

I don’t think even Graham believes this but I think it is very interesting how he frames this.

“It’s obvious that the president has renounced Islam … the president says he is a Christian, and we just have to accept it as that,”

I think Graham is almost playing with Obama’s head with this quote. Obama would clear everything up if he said he was not a Muslim. Obama has not said that.

[cricket]

...forgot to include Obama’s father who personifies not just Muslim; but communist, as well.

[cricket]

I think Graham is almost playing with Obama’s head with this quote.

Given his public dismissal of Rev. Graham; do not think the arrogant, anti-Christian Obama; gives a flying flip about Rev. Graham and this kind of 'giving up' or 'forgiving' offered by Graham; is not to anyone's benefit when it comes to obscurring or diminishing a Truth, however and IMHO. Christian principles, can stand alone.

Meantime, can see the smirk on Obama's face as he sees that Rev. Graham; despite his public smack-in-face delivered by Obama; has basically dismissed the issue of Obama' religion in what appears as 'case-closed' judgment and advisory to others. Do think Christian Virtue loses on this one.

[Condor51]

*** but there should be no doubt that he was influenced as well, by his Islamic/Muslim roots. ***

Yes, you're right. That was a big influence too.

I posted yesterday on a similar thread that even though Barry is an Atheist, he's 'Muslim Friendly'. And even though he 'gave Islam up', when it comes to religion now, he will bend towards Islam over any other religion.

The mutt even blew off the Dalai Lama when he was in the US. And who wouldn't want to meet with him? Only a Chi-Com or other dyed-in-the-wool commie would do that to the Dalai Lama.

[P-Marlowe]

Franklin Graham's comment is far more insightful than first glance reveals. It is a death penalty and cause for utter rejection for a muslim to reject islam. In fact, it is a death sentence.

I suspect that this is exactly what Obama told Graham in a meeting he had with him. Obama tends to speak to his audience and to tell them what he thinks they want to hear, and I also suspect that Graham might have asked him, when defining his christianity, whether or not he had renounced Islam and accepted Jesus as his savior. This is the kind of question that one would expect from a Graham, as Graham probably asks that question of everyone he meets.

Obama probably tried to appease Graham and told him that he had renounced Muhammad and Islam and that he had accepted Jesus.

Graham has really laid down the gauntlet on Obama's phony Christianity. If only we can get an MSM reporter to ask Obama to confirm what Graham said. Undoubtedly Obama will deny it as his MSM audience would obviously be appalled at the idea the Obama has "renounced" Muhammad and "renounced" Islam.

I am not holding my breath. This story is dead in its tracks. At least for now.

[cricket]

The mutt even blew off the Dalai Lama when he was in the US. And who wouldn't want to meet with him? Only a Chi-Com or other dyed-in-the-wool commie would do that to the Dalai Lama.

Yes to all and as well, a man with 'Muslim heart' and a certain poltical 'thougtfulness' considering Communist China. . .

Oh, we soooo need Justice to find Obama-the-Poser. . .

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Graham has really laid down the gauntlet on Obama's phony Christianity.

I've always like d Franklin Graham. He was one of the very few voices after 9-11 who laid the blame squarely on the muslim religion (which is probably why we haven't heard much from him for the past nine years.) Graham is well aware the Koran declares death to all non-muslims and teaches that deceiving your opponent is wisdom. So Obama's declaration of his Christianity to Graham fits right in with what he was taught growing up as a muslim.

Graham's attitude seems pretty skeptical. He says "the president says he is a Christian, and we just have to accept it as that." lol. Which of us would like that kind of lukewarm assurance to describe our faith? Graham clearly is ambivalent about Obama's Christianity.

As well he should be.

And the headline of this article leads with the most important point - Obama was a muslim. Period.

If he is a Christian now, he has yet to display the fruits of that conversion.

xzins: A secret muslim's response to such a claim as Graham's would be to find some way to signal that it was not so.

Exactly. Which is just what he did by bowing to Abdullah. Can any one of us imagine for a second that President Bush or Reagan or Kennedy or Adams or Washington would have BOWED to another head of state?

Even Nancy Reagan refused to curtsy to the Queen of England.

"U.S. Senator Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali Elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia (2006)." -- Geeska Afrika Magazine

[MinuteGal]

Anyone can SAY that he or she is a Christian. But if they are true Christian believers they will have a baptismal certificate and oftimes a confirmation certificate to back it up.....particularly if one is a 'convert' or crossover from being born a Muslim or other sect.

However, it must be understood that Obama purposefully keeps himself a blank slate when it comes to his religion or lack of it. The folks that make up the voting masses can plug anything they want onto that blank slate....be it Christian, Muslim, atheist, nihilist...whatever. There's various signs here and there plus he throws a modicum of hints around to reinforce peoples' views of what they THINK his religion or lack of it is, but no genuine proof of anything at all.

But that's what he does on his citizenship, also, doesn't he? Kenyan, American, Hawaiian, Indonesian.....he can be what anyone wants him to be. There's just not sufficient evidence around to call him out.

This man is definitely satanic, employing all the various tactics of the Prince of Darkness, i.e...... sleights-of-hand, ruses, scams, cons, cover-ups, misdirections, deceptions, artifices, disguises, impostures, tricks, sudden shifts, fakery, fraud, phoniness and outright lies.

But as the Good Book says...Obama should not be deceived.....God is NOT mocked, pal.

Leni

[Alamo-Girl]

Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!

[1000 silverlings]

No Christian covers up Christ’s name like this joker did giving a speech at Georgetown or wherever it was. To deny Christ in public is to be denied by Christ, so no matter how Obama wants to slice it, in the end Someone is going to say “I never knew you”. Poor Obama, he sold his soul to stand atop a mountain and the only way off it, is straight down