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New Orleans cops say they got orders authorizing them to shoot looters...
Times Picayune, PBS Frontline, ProPublica - Joint Story ^ | 08/25/2010 | Sabrina Shankman ,Tom Jennings, Brendan McCarthy ,Laura Maggi

Posted on 08/25/2010 4:32:49 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

New Orleans cops say they got orders authorizing them to shoot looters in the chaos after Hurricane Katrina

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In the chaotic days after Hurricane Katrina, an order circulated among New Orleans police authorizing officers to shoot looters, according to present and former members of the New Orleans Police Department.

It's not clear how broadly the order was communicated. Some officers who heard it say they refused to carry it out. Others say they understood it as a fundamental change in the standards on deadly force, which allow police to fire only to protect themselves or others from what appears to be an imminent physical threat.

The accounts of orders to "shoot looters," "take back the city" or "do what you have to do" are fragmentary. It remains unclear who originated them or whether they were heard by any of the officers involved in shooting 11 civilians in the days after Katrina. Thus far, no officers implicated in shootings have used the order as an explanation for their actions. Only one of the people shot by police -- Henry Glover -- was allegedly stealing goods at the time he was shot.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: neworleans; thetimespicayune
This is the second time I'm posting this. I have no idea why it was pulled the first time with the comment "no thanks".

I thought the point of this forum was to discuss political stories. This story is the feature story on the Times-Picayune today, and will be featured on Frontline (the co-author) at some point in the future.

1 posted on 08/25/2010 4:32:55 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

I’ve seen coverage of where a guy for a network walks in walmart and finds two cops looting themselves.
The cops then threaten to arrest the reporter for being there.


2 posted on 08/25/2010 4:36:22 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: OldDeckHand

You probably forgot to post the picture of the looter-dude with the basket full of Heineken beer.


3 posted on 08/25/2010 4:38:24 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: manc

5 years after Katrina, any discussion is just the left trying to breathe life into the afterbirth of the biggest disaster they didn’t get blamed for.

(although the leftist liberal tardism was rampant during the whole thing)


4 posted on 08/25/2010 4:39:59 PM PDT by snarkbait (<<For Rent>>)
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To: OldDeckHand

The worst looters were the Cops so I guess they were fair game as well!

TT


5 posted on 08/25/2010 4:42:53 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (I don't mind liberals... I hate liars...there just tends to be a high degree of overlap)
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To: OldDeckHand
Do you recall is similar orders were given post Andrew? I understand things went third world pretty quickly there too.
6 posted on 08/25/2010 4:43:05 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: OldDeckHand

So the coops were the ones responsible for the death toll?


7 posted on 08/25/2010 4:49:50 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: TexasTransplant
The worst looters were the Cops so I guess they were fair game as well!

Some Gulf Shores residents claim the National Guard made out pretty well after Frederick, too. (1979 or so)

8 posted on 08/25/2010 4:50:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
funny... I have always thought it was standard operating procedure to shoot looters on sight during a marshal law type situation.

Honestly ... myself... I wouldn't shoot a looter getting food or some other necessity... but I would put a hole in the forehead of anyone trying to grab a TV or something similar.

9 posted on 08/25/2010 4:52:53 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"Some Gulf Shores residents claim the National Guard made out pretty well after Frederick, too. (1979 or so) "

To answer your first question, I don't know about Andrew. I was living in VA when that Hurricane hit.

But, I believe the comment about Frederick - it was 1979. Our National Guard was a mess back then - four years of Jimmy Carter will do that. It took Reagan 8 years and tens of billions (and also increases in standards and random drug testing) to fix the DoD that had been devastated by Vietnam, and then Carter.

10 posted on 08/25/2010 4:54:08 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: WorkingClassFilth
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11 posted on 08/25/2010 4:57:22 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Roccus

Yeah, baby! Where’s the chips?


12 posted on 08/25/2010 5:03:32 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: OldDeckHand

In the wake of the San Francisco earthquake of 1906, the US Army shot down hundreds of looters. In time of supreme disaster such as the quake or Katrina, nobody expects less of the authorities and no community would demand less.


13 posted on 08/25/2010 5:09:45 PM PDT by tlb
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To: OldDeckHand

I’m pretty sure they didn’t shoot enough looters.


14 posted on 08/25/2010 6:23:16 PM PDT by La.daddyrabbit (President Obama, those 2.5 million new jobs you created/ saved, are they hand or blow?)
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To: OldDeckHand

***In the chaotic days after Hurricane Katrina, an order circulated among New Orleans police authorizing officers to shoot looters,***

And to a cop in NO, everyone looks like a looter!


15 posted on 08/25/2010 6:54:52 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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