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Does God Belong at The Lincoln Memorial?
politicsdaily.com ^ | Aug. 29, 2010 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 08/29/2010 1:11:31 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Palter

If that isn’t enough, what about the Washington Monument?


41 posted on 08/29/2010 1:48:56 PM PDT by dwg2
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To: xuberalles; All

“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.” (Abraham Lincoln)

STE=Q


42 posted on 08/29/2010 1:49:52 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: PJ_Foggy

Glenn Beck is demonstrating exactly what the Founding Fathers intended in referencing Judeo-Christian values and appealing to God’s favor upon this land - “Grant us a miracle!”

It’s for you and I to debate specific doctrinal truth; a leader such as the president is supposed to support tradition and encourage the free flow of ideas by referencing The Almighty.

Glenn Beck is doing what our elected leaders should be doing.


43 posted on 08/29/2010 1:49:54 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Geez. had to let the dog out and missed spellcheck. let me clean this up a bit:

True dat. Among the Founding Fathers there were only two true Deists--Ben Franklin and Tom Paine. All the rest (with the exception of one member of the Jewish faith) were churchgoing Christians. That includes Thomas Jefferson who, to the dismay of revisionists, declared hismelf to be a Christian, even though he was fairly austere in seeking to separate what he considered myth (adiaphora) from reality.

44 posted on 08/29/2010 1:50:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Huskrrrr

The close of MLK’s speech:

And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”

Sounds a lot like the crowd at the memorial yesterday to me and sounds a lot like what they are aiming for.


45 posted on 08/29/2010 1:52:40 PM PDT by November 2010
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To: Free ThinkerNY
[Press] argued it was inappropriate for Glenn Beck to invoke religion at the Lincoln Memorial, saying, "I thought I was at a camp meeting -- an old fashioned, religious camp meeting; I don't think that's appropriate on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial."

I listened to what Glenn Beck said at the Lincoln Memorial. Apparently, Bill Press is not familiar with a camp meeting or any form of revival. What Beck said was a mix of Joel Osteen and Robert Schuller, not Billy Sunday or a conservative version of William Jennings Bryan. It was the normal pop spiritual words of Generation X, inwardly directed to changing perspectives and attitudes, not the judgmental, conversion-oriented words of a camp meeting. The left apparently thinks anything remotely spiritual in the 21th Century requires snake handlers and arbor brush.

46 posted on 08/29/2010 1:54:53 PM PDT by Dark Fired Tobacco
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’d like to see anyone try to keep Him out.


47 posted on 08/29/2010 1:55:16 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Huskrrrr
Excuse me, didn’t MLK invoke prayer at the memorial?

Yes, of course he did.

48 posted on 08/29/2010 1:56:08 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yesterday was pretty much a litmus test.

The founding fathers invoked God at every step of the way, even including our deists.

The fact that these people are questioning it tells you they are a big part of the problem. Ignore them. Speak what God gives you to speak and do the work that is right there in front of you and prepare to bulldoze the naysayers as you move forward. If Press doesn’t get it, you now know where Press stands with respect to God and the founding and the refounding.


49 posted on 08/29/2010 2:01:29 PM PDT by marron
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To: PackerBoy
That paragraph from King's speech HAS to drive the Left of today totally nuts because that tells me he was a strong believer is the Christian God.
50 posted on 08/29/2010 2:02:43 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

God is appropriate everywhere as everything belongs to God.


51 posted on 08/29/2010 2:03:42 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Psalm 24:1 The earth is the LORD'S, and all it contains,

The world, and those who dwell in it.

Does God Belong at The Lincoln Memorial? He owns it.

Besides, who's able to stop Him from going there?

gitmo

52 posted on 08/29/2010 2:11:13 PM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I was not at the rally, and I have not had time to watch television this past weekend. I have no idea if it was like a religious revival or not; however, these people that say that it was improper to interject religion at the Lincoln Memorial have no problem with the mosque near GZ.


53 posted on 08/29/2010 2:13:51 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Dark Fired Tobacco

What Beck said could be related to the Catholic concept of an examination of conscience and repentance, rather than a trite Michael Jackson “Man in the Mirror.”


54 posted on 08/29/2010 2:14:25 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Funny, I don’t recall anyone taking offense at MLK’s repeated references to God during his speech:

“Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God’s children.”

“I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; “and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.”

“And this will be the day — this will be the day when all of God’s children will be able to sing with new meaning:

“we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”

So when Glenn Beck does it, BAD! When MLK does it, GOOD! So is it simple racism or mere partisanship that produces this obvious double standard?


55 posted on 08/29/2010 2:17:08 PM PDT by DrC
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To: hinckley buzzard

***Among the Founding fathers there were only two trjue Desists—Ben Franklin and Tom Paine.***

And yet, even Ben Franklin demanded his children get a “proper CHRISTIAN education!”


56 posted on 08/29/2010 2:23:01 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

God is in all places, whether we acknowledge it or not. He is there in every heart beat, every breath. God owns the air we breath, it is by his mercy and grace we are not consumed!

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD.....” (Psalm 33:12a)


57 posted on 08/29/2010 2:24:06 PM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

God belongs everywhere, even at a Darwin Memorial.


58 posted on 08/29/2010 2:25:32 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson’s example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House—a practice that continued until after the Civil War—were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.)

In January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a “crowded audience.”...In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government. - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic, part 4 http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html


59 posted on 08/29/2010 2:32:54 PM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

God has been there all along.


60 posted on 08/29/2010 2:35:38 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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