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Posted on 09/01/2010 9:31:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
A city does not die when its last resident moves away. Death happens when municipalities lose the industries and vital populations that made them important cities.
The economy has evolved so much since the middle of the 20th Century that many cities that were among the largest and most vibrant in America have collapsed. Some have lost more than half of their residents. Others have lost the businesses that made them important centers of finance, manufacturing, and commerce.
Most of America’s Ten Dead Cities were once major manufacturing hubs and others were important ports or financial services centers. The downfall of one city, New Orleans, began in the 1970s, but was accelerated by Hurricane Katrina.
Notably, the rise of inexpensive manufacturing in Japan destroyed the ability of the industrial cities on this list to effectively compete in the global marketplace. Foreign business activity and US government policy were two of the three major blows that caused the downfall of these cities. The third was the labor movement and its demands for higher compensation which ballooned the costs of manufacturing in many of these cities as well.
24/7 Wall St. looked at a number of sources in order to select the list. One was the US Census Bureau’s list of largest cities by population by decade from 1950 to 2000 with estimates for 2007. Detroit, for example, had 1.9 million people in 1950 and was the fifth largest city in the nation. By 2000, the figure was 951,000. The city was not even on the top ten list in 2007.
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That's not very "doughty." How disappointing.
That's the part I was having trouble with . . . .
First "Dollar Nullification" and now this must be "Argument Nullification" - my this one is clever!
would - - > wouldn’t
Because the image is in the browser cache and displays properly in the preview. In fact, the original poster will still see the correct image until s/he clears their browser cache.
The concern you raise is why I try to save the image to my own web server and hotlink to it from here when I post images.
That is a non-argument. Democrats can lie and claim whatever they want; their fundamental perspective after all, is based on emotion and obfuscation. However, the evidence-based economic data, invariably point to leftist policies as destructive and counter to civic economic well-being.
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“All of those cities are heavy manufacturing cities with the exception of Galveston and New Orleans. Manufacturing is leaving for international reasons rather than local reasons. You can outlaw the Democrat party in those cities as well as subsidized housing and it would not change a thing with the exception of having shorter welfare lines and more empty buildings.”
Manufacturing is failing largely BECAUSE of leftist/Democrat policies: Heavy tax burdens, regulation and Unionism. Still, traditional manufacturing aside, if you unleash entrepreneurial incentive via the broad economic
measures I mentioned, you will see growth and the creation of new industries and businesses.
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“Using deductive reasoning and your statement then one would have to conclude that the most liberal city of San Francisco would then be number one dead city in America. Which is simply not true.”
Which of my statements are you using? I never constructed an equation in which the “most liberal” city would be the most economically downtrodden. On the contrary, I delineated the separate issues of ignorant Democrat economic policy and the beneficence and largesse of
huge inflows of cash from across the globe. This gives the liberal fools who “run” these cities a huge economic cushion sheltered from normal economic reality.
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“Boston and San Francisco both are research and development hubs which also generates cash flow.”
Again, a SEPARATE issue from our thesis of Democrat economic policy. The cities succeed in spite of, not because of, Democrat fiscal strategies, or lack thereof. Well, in honesty, I suppose we might give some dubious credit to corrupt Democrat politicking for this aspect, if they are able to bring home huge taxpayer-financed subsidies to fuel much of that educational institution based "research and development".
That’s fine. I learned everything I could from you, from your first post.
Isn’t it beautiful? Declare victory and split, leaving everyone wondering how you defined the term upon which much of your argument rests.
now they are bumming out because detroit is moving to them.
and there aint no where to run.
cry me a frikin river.
Most of these are Rat strongholds, no?
What does Chuckie Schumer have to say about that?
“IT’S GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT!”
he built up japanese manufacturing because he was shunned by american manufacturers.
he always spoke for free to foreign companies.
he charged 10k per head to us companies.
this is what i was told.
Local governments for the most part just tax and spend. Both parties are good at this. San Diego was lead for the most part by Republicans who interned bankrupted the city. Boston cut taxes in the early 80’s and industry still left.
I'll agree with you that Democrats should not take credit for a cities success but at the same time Republicans have done little as far as I can see in helping industry in this country.
Well, it’s not so much that, as the marginal behavior was a bit more honest, industrious, frugal, even happier. That excess effort and economy provided the capital to not only maintain what previous generations built, but build more.
Now we don’t seem able to build much, nor maintain what we have. How can that be when supposedly the self esteem factories tell us we’ve never been so well educated( dumbed down standardized app tests aside )
“Forever is a very long time.”
That was my first thought. Not long ago Pittsburgh would have been on there, but has managed to rebound. The same is true of some of the older NJ cities outside NYC.
But the cities have to have leadership that will take what assets they have (port/rail/whatever) and make the commitment to rebuild. Then roll up their sleeves. Too many cities have ‘leaders’ whose only role in life seems to be getting more for their constituents from the govt.
So, who’s going to decide? I bet the most huckersterish, low quality companies, like GM, with the most union members, will spend the most saying that their over priced, low quality product is the one that should be saved. ( Not that anything like that would ever happen ).
Yeah, let’s let Bwarny Fwank, Read, Pelosi, even the likes of Trent Lott, and Lindsey Graham decide what products and services us poor proles can be allowed.
Instead of Obama/Romney/HillaryCare, we can have them manage the whole economy. Everyone will still own things, it will just be at the command of the state, as the state sees fit.
I’m not buying Chicago coffee. I live in Massachusetts. The Massachusetts Co-Operative Growers Association( “Mass Coffee Is Local Coffee” ) has convinced me that 42$/pound is actually cheaper than Chicago coffee, which is good since although we are now self sufficient, mostly, and all have jobs. The economy has really turned around. Most of us have three jobs, it’s just that we have an inflation problem, although no one seems to be making a profit. ;
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