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Forget going green -- Earth doesn't care ( We are Doomed ...Commentary of how many ways)
MarketWatch ^ | Sept. 7, 2010, 12:01 a.m. EDT | Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch

Posted on 09/07/2010 11:20:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He does seem to subscribe to the “central planning myth” that is characterist of commies. The concept that a wise government could develop a long term plan and carry it out and somehow “save” our species from extinction is nuts. The government has never been “wise” and the government has never carried out a plan efficiently. If there is a catastrophy coming, the government will not be the corrective agent. It will be the “rugged individualist” who has planned for his smaller community of survivors.

BTW, the species will not be extinguished by global warming, peak oil, or economic collapse. Many people will suffer and die with the collapse of civilization, but humans are at least as adaptable as the insect shown above.
That is, some humans.

Of course as I say this, I realize at my age (65) I don’t have as much to fear about all this.

KC


21 posted on 09/07/2010 12:12:29 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and ex-teacher (ret))
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To: Gondring
I often have wondered why so many seem so joyous at the prospect that climate change might not be anthropogenic (not using the IPCC definition of Cllimate Change, of course), since that would mean we have limited options for managing the environment in which we live, putting us at the mercy of the elements. To me, it's like being glad to discover that your roof leaks but that you have stayed dry only because it wasn't raining. The next time it rains, wouldn't we rather it had been a leak we could have fixed?

To think man has caused the non-existent global warming is foolish. The reason many people think we can't control the climate is because, wait for it, we can't. To think you can "fix the leak" as you put it is purely frickin' ridiculous. CO2 never caused anything to heat up, it is a plant food and necessary to the health of the planet and the life on the planet. We are carbon based life forms and we need carbon. To claim we need to eliminate carbon from out lives in order to save the world has got to be among, if not THE, stupidest statements ever uttered by humans.

22 posted on 09/07/2010 12:14:47 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

And you seem so overjoyed that we are so powerless.


23 posted on 09/07/2010 12:17:34 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
"And you seem so overjoyed that we are so powerless."

God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
The courage to change the things I can;
And the wisdom to know the difference.

24 posted on 09/07/2010 12:22:40 PM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Laughlin's warning that "humans have already triggered the sixth great period of species extinction in Earth's history."...Your brain needs to shift into a new mindset to think like Laughlin, a physicist who thinks in geologic time

Those who speak out of specialty are simply fools with fancier titles. There's no evidence Laughlin knows any more about biological processes than I do. If a ignoring a physicist babbling about biodiversity is what this jacka$$ thinks is an example of "few care what scholars say about anything," then count me among the Philistines.

25 posted on 09/07/2010 12:25:20 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The guy thinks in geological terms. It sort of shields him from the real realities in life such as the growing Islamic threats world wide and the takeover of free nations that can choose through the voting process their destinies, by those that love absolute power and believe only a few should control the world.

26 posted on 09/07/2010 12:27:51 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If Laughlin truly believes we're domed, what would be the point of is warning? He's an attention whore and nothing else.
27 posted on 09/07/2010 12:48:18 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: calex59

What I see is someone without the assurance that the earth was created by a Creator that is sovereign and reserves the right to Himself to destroy and remake it at the time of His choosing.


28 posted on 09/07/2010 12:52:12 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Gondring

It has been proven that CO2 levels rise 400 to 800 years after atmospheric temps rise, caused by heating of the oceans (warmer water can hold less gas). Algore’s graph in his stinkin movie does not have the two overlapping (”that’s complicated” he says) for this reason.


29 posted on 09/07/2010 1:03:19 PM PDT by TStro
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m scared!! Scared, I tell you!!


30 posted on 09/07/2010 1:03:35 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: dfwgator

“Forecast for tonight...dark, with scattered light in the early morning hours.”


31 posted on 09/07/2010 1:21:49 PM PDT by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If the JellyStone cauldera lets rip again.. it’ll make Mt. St. Helena look like a pimple that pops now and then.. be a shame too,, I like the Tetons and Rockies ..

but ya never know ‘When Heavenly Objects Might Collide’

seen some pretty good sized chunks burning up in the atmosphere lately,, more than normal? I don’t know. ;-]


32 posted on 09/07/2010 1:41:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: TStro

So?

Are you claiming that CO2 was forced into the atmosphere in the past?

Here’s what is being suggested by others:

CO2 follows temperature when the temperature is the forcing (as you noted) and the CO2 adjusts to the new temperature. When you pump CO2 into the atmosphere, the temperature adjusts to go into equilibrium with the CO2 concentration.

Of course, it’s in quasi-equilibrium.


33 posted on 09/07/2010 2:57:27 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: wideawake
Let's cut to the chase: Laughlin is a Green ideologist and a supporter of the overpopulation myth.

His twist on the usual Gore themes is that he says it is too late top prevent global catastrophe, that humans will be wiped from the planet and that The Earth will ultimately survive.

Since the universe is meaningless, why does he care what happens? And how can anything that happens on one insignificant dust mote among zillions qualify as a "catastrophe?" Is the universe gonna start bawling or something?

34 posted on 09/07/2010 3:17:11 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: wideawake
His twist on the usual Gore themes is that he says it is too late top prevent global catastrophe, that humans will be wiped from the planet and that The Earth will ultimately survive.

Ah, the ideal liberal scenario. Paradise without people.

35 posted on 09/07/2010 3:53:09 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Is the universe gonna start bawling or something?

Yes, and a bawling universe is to be feared more than a woman scorned.

36 posted on 09/07/2010 4:29:35 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Is the universe gonna start bawling or something?

Yes, and a bawling universe is to be feared more than a woman scorned.

That must be why the libs are so persistent about "social justice." Obviously it will keep the universe from bawling.

37 posted on 09/07/2010 5:16:05 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Time to throw out 'myth' of recycling
by David Harrison
London Daily Telegraph
March 4, 2003
Throw away the green and blue bags and forget those trips to return bottles -- recycling household waste is a load of, well, rubbish, say leading environmentalists and waste campaigners. In a reversal of decades-old wisdom, they argue that burning cardboard, plastics and food leftovers is better for the environment and the economy than recycling. They dismiss household trash separation -- a practice encouraged by the green lobby -- as a waste of time and money... The Swedes' views are shared by many British local authorities, who have drawn up plans to build up to 50 incinerators in an attempt to tackle a growing waste mountain and cut the amount of garbage going to landfills... The use of incineration to burn household waste -- including packaging and food -- "is best for the environment, the economy and the management of natural resources," they wrote in an article for the newspaper Dagens Nyheter. Technological improvements have made incineration cleaner, the article said, and the process could be used to generate electricity, cutting dependency on oil... Recycled bottles cost glass companies twice as much as the raw materials, and recycling plastics was uneconomical, they said. "Plastics are made from oil and can quite simply be incinerated."
oldie (2001) from Popular Mechanics:
The Tree Solution
by Jim Wilson
As Greenpeace expanded to become the world's largest international environmental organization, Moore's star steadily rose and he eventually became vice president of research. Then he did something even more unexpected than joining the organization in the first place. He packed up and quit... In the months before his departure, Moore had begun talking heresy. "The environmental movement had gone astray and lost its perspective on forests," Moore says. "Rather than cutting fewer trees and using less wood, we should be growing more trees and using more wood." Greenpeace branded him an eco-Judas. Now comes the biggest surprise of all. Recently published research suggests that Moore is right. Cutting down old trees could be the best way to thwart global warming.

38 posted on 09/07/2010 8:39:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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