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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; cogitator
In many ways, this is the Rush Limbaugh view..."The earth's too big for us to destroy it"...

But, of course, many of us are too chauvinistic to care purely about the earth. Even if the earth survives, damage is felt by us.

Global warming forecasts have the further difficulty that you can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. [...] In order to test the predictions, you’d have to separate these big effects from subtle, inexorable changes on scales of centuries, and nobody knows how to do that yet.

In one paragraph, the author encapsulates what seems to be beyond so many.

His explanations of geological phenomena are fairly good, albeit not entirely rigorous.

I often have wondered why so many seem so joyous at the prospect that climate change might not be anthropogenic (not using the IPCC definition of Cllimate Change, of course), since that would mean we have limited options for managing the environment in which we live, putting us at the mercy of the elements. To me, it's like being glad to discover that your roof leaks but that you have stayed dry only because it wasn't raining. The next time it rains, wouldn't we rather it had been a leak we could have fixed?

10 posted on 09/07/2010 11:42:09 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

That’s God’s call, not ours. The climate has always changed, Improvise...Adapt...Overcome.


12 posted on 09/07/2010 11:47:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gondring

The fact that the change in the Earth’s temperature is not caused by man is of value.

First, it means we should not tax ourselves into depression to “fix” something like CO2 emissions that is not going to do any good.

Second, we can spend our resources on removing the things that global warming results in, like putting houses on higher ground when you know a flood is coming.


17 posted on 09/07/2010 12:05:53 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and ex-teacher (ret))
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To: Gondring
I often have wondered why so many seem so joyous at the prospect that climate change might not be anthropogenic (not using the IPCC definition of Cllimate Change, of course), since that would mean we have limited options for managing the environment in which we live, putting us at the mercy of the elements. To me, it's like being glad to discover that your roof leaks but that you have stayed dry only because it wasn't raining. The next time it rains, wouldn't we rather it had been a leak we could have fixed?

To think man has caused the non-existent global warming is foolish. The reason many people think we can't control the climate is because, wait for it, we can't. To think you can "fix the leak" as you put it is purely frickin' ridiculous. CO2 never caused anything to heat up, it is a plant food and necessary to the health of the planet and the life on the planet. We are carbon based life forms and we need carbon. To claim we need to eliminate carbon from out lives in order to save the world has got to be among, if not THE, stupidest statements ever uttered by humans.

22 posted on 09/07/2010 12:14:47 PM PDT by calex59
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