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Alaska's Murkowski failed bar exam 4 times
Kansas City.com ^ | 10/1/2010 | Erika Bolstad

Posted on 10/01/2010 10:40:08 PM PDT by Qbert

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To: Qbert
Hillary Clinton failed the DC Bar Exam.

Link

41 posted on 10/02/2010 5:27:28 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: taildragger
I hear that exam is worse than the Bar.

I've been told the same thing, by someone that has passed both.

42 posted on 10/02/2010 5:33:41 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Qbert
Failing the bar exam on the first try is not that unusual and is normally the result of the applicant underestimating how tough the exam is.

Nearly everyone passes on the second attempt and third attempts are rare. I would be willing to bet that no other applicant from her graduating class had to take the exam more than three times.

Obviously, when it comes to law,she is in a league of her own - the Little League.

43 posted on 10/02/2010 5:42:29 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: napscoordinator
See my post 43.

She is in all probability the only person in here class of applicants to fail 4 times.

The test is difficult, but I guarantee that you, with no legal education, could pass it in five attempts.

44 posted on 10/02/2010 5:48:26 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: taildragger

I agree with you about the importance of CPAs and the difficulty of their exam. Unfortunately Lawyers have the power. What is wrong with them and the legal system becomes wrong with society. The profession attracts ambitious nitwits like Murkowski.


45 posted on 10/02/2010 5:51:27 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Steve_Stifler
I believe that one of the problems Lisa had was spelling her last name properly on the exam papers.
46 posted on 10/02/2010 5:53:53 AM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: yldstrk

“having taken and passed, I can only say that it is a horrible experience...”

...my daughter passed it and would agree with you...she said that people were so worked up that by the end the test room smelled like a dog kennel.


47 posted on 10/02/2010 5:56:02 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Qbert

MurCow went to Georgetown University (B.A.) in Washington DC. You better believe she applied to East Coast law schools. She got turned down but dear old dad had enough pull to get her into Willamette Law school


48 posted on 10/02/2010 5:59:11 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confuscius.)
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To: caseinpoint
Concur with your analysis. I took the VA bar and passed the first time. What was interesting was that we were told that the essay portion was written so you could argue either side of the issue, so "picking a side;" did not determine success or failure. How you analyzed the issues got you the score. While I cannot prove that was correct, I can say that I compared my answers with a friend who took the same exam and our answers were almost completely the opposite of each other. We both passed the bar. Oh yes, the failure rate for that particular test was around 25%.
49 posted on 10/02/2010 6:17:39 AM PDT by fini
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To: Sooth2222
She waited until the fourth failure before taking a bar prep course? Yikes, she isn't stupid, she is a fool! Law schools don't teach you the law in a particular state, they teach you the concepts and the different sides to an issue, with some exceptions (model codes, Federal laws, etc...).

Each state is different, some more so than others. For instance, Louisiana state law is based on the Napoleonic code and VA is based on the common law, so the same situation could come out very different depending upon which state it occurred in.

I spent three years of my life and many thousands of dollars to go to a law school, so spending a few thousand dollars and three months learning VA law was a "no brainer."

50 posted on 10/02/2010 6:35:38 AM PDT by fini
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To: topher

bump


51 posted on 10/02/2010 6:45:11 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks Qbert.


52 posted on 10/02/2010 6:47:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Qbert

She even looks stupid, but Teddy still holds the record for bar exam failure.


53 posted on 10/02/2010 6:58:56 AM PDT by IbJensen (Our government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.)
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To: Qbert

5 attempts, but she DID pass it.


54 posted on 10/02/2010 6:59:04 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Qbert

He got one in Ilinois but lied on his application and surrendered it.

We know nothing real about that empty suit in the WH except that he is a radical America hater.


55 posted on 10/02/2010 7:01:48 AM PDT by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm)
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To: anniegetyourgun

“I believe Hillary & Michelle also flunked the bar the first time.”

And yet we were constantly told how smart Hillary was. I can even remember Carville or a Carville Clone describing her IQ as “an IQ that can boil water.” Guess the bar exam board wasn’t told that so they could give her an automatic pass.


56 posted on 10/02/2010 7:12:37 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Cincinna
Hillary Clinton failed the DC Bar. That’s why she moved to Arkansas.

Interesting tidbit...

57 posted on 10/02/2010 7:23:15 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Qbert
It took Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, five attempts to pass the Alaska Bar Exam, a piece of her biography that has gone unreported until now.

Thanks for posting this.

58 posted on 10/02/2010 7:24:34 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: fini

” we were told that the essay portion was written so you could argue either side of the issue, so “picking a side;” did not determine success or failure. How you analyzed the issues got you the score.”

We were told the same. And it makes sense. Contrary to the fantasy world of movies, books and some of the internet, real life is rarely purely black or purely white. If it were so, the issue would never come to a lawyer. The laws change, as we well know, but the ability to spot salient factors, apply the law as known at the time to those factors, and put it into cohesive language is the real skill needed by attorneys.

That is why failing four times is a serious red flag in my mind. I’m not sure even now Murkowski can see the forest for the trees at her nose.


59 posted on 10/02/2010 7:58:20 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: taildragger

“We should care less about attorneys and more about CPA’s.
I hear that exam is worse than the Bar.
Ergo the desire to destroy Mr. Hoffman in NY-23 and Michelle Bachmann. They are both CPA’s.”

—The new CPA exam has four sections, taken on different dates, and IIRC, only about 20% of participants pass all four sections on the first try. And if you don’t pass *all four* sections within a certain period of time, you have to go back and take them all over again until you pass them all. So, yeah, I think most people would agree that the CPA exam is much, much harder.

To correct one fact you stated- Michele Bachmann was a tax attorney, with an LL.M. in taxation before she was elected to Congress (and not a CPA). Close enough...and we need more like her.

Want more CPA’s in Congress? Donate to a good conservative and a CPA:

http://dioguardiforussenate.com/


60 posted on 10/02/2010 8:06:13 AM PDT by Qbert
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