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Libertarians: Still In Search Of Their Perfect World. Practically Irrelevant.
Liberty Pundits ^ | 17 October 2010 | Melissa Clouthier

Posted on 10/18/2010 9:10:24 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The Libertarian party is to the GOP, what the Green party is to Democrats.


61 posted on 10/18/2010 10:40:24 AM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: Vigilance
I wonder sometimes could the LP sell ice water in Hell.

Well put. It's why I consider myself a 'small l' and don't belong to the party although I agree with about 85% of them. I find their position on abortion to be particularly troubling and for me it's a deal breaker.

L

62 posted on 10/18/2010 10:41:25 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Amerikan_Samurai

Actually the libertarian party is much worst to the GOP then the green party is to democrats. The green party would never vote with republicans but would simply just vote third party. There are many so-called libertarians who vote democrat and in every war since Viet Nam there have been libertarians marching side by side with Marxist against the United States. Libertarians also side with social Marxists on many issues as well.


63 posted on 10/18/2010 10:43:06 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Gee, no wonder I can’t really tell them apart from liberals on the freeway until I see the Ron Paul bumper sticker on the car, lol.


64 posted on 10/18/2010 10:48:43 AM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: DesertRhino

Social conservatives don’t stamp their feet. That’s a libertarian habit.


65 posted on 10/18/2010 10:53:31 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Lurker

“I’ll find the poster whose tagline reads ‘as a matter of fact what you do in your bedroom is my business’. You can ask him yourself.”

Taking this as an imputation of FEDERAL responsibility for sexual mores, it seems, is a giant leap on your part.


66 posted on 10/18/2010 10:55:27 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: dfwgator

“State capitalism is essentially what ‘Communist’ China has.”

Well, i’d say the formerly rigid agrarian communist regime retains certain classical communistic residues on its people within and without the economic realm. But, yes, I’d say overall that’s a decent description of that system.


67 posted on 10/18/2010 10:59:02 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Cicero
Social conservatives don’t stamp their feet.

Pardon me while I guffaw.

68 posted on 10/18/2010 11:03:43 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
"Personally I think that mainstream conservatives are scared sh**less of small 'l' libertarians "
the reason people(mostly single issue conservatives) are afraid of small l libertarians, is because we should actually be called "Strict Constitutionalists", and the constitution, applied as written, would piss off both liberals and conservatives. If you want to know where you fall, ask yourself, have I ever said "There ought to be a law"?...If you have, then you do not believe in the constitution, and are a form of socialist.....hard test to take, and a harder one to admit to...
69 posted on 10/18/2010 11:31:33 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: joe fonebone
is because we should actually be called "Strict Constitutionalists",

If I had a nickel for every time I've started a question with "exactly where in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution is the enumerated power for Congress to...." I'd have a sh** load of nickels.

70 posted on 10/18/2010 11:35:25 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

and so would I.....The problem is that both liberals and social(ist) conservatives want the federal government to regulate our daily lives and existance...the only difference is what side of the middle you fall in...nobody has the right to tell me what to do, as long as I do not infringe on anther persons civil rights... it is a real simple concept, one that the framers of our country knew and understood, but now we have socialists on both the left and on the right....as I stated, the constitution, as written, applied literally, would piss off both liberals and conservatives....this is why I no longer call myself conservative...I am a strict constitutionalist...and I dare any social conservative or liberal to challenge me


71 posted on 10/18/2010 11:43:06 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: rurgan
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2. So now we have no government in 1994.

3. Then you add ONLY the government agencies and programs that the Republican Congress added from 1994 on . And then you will see that there is virtually no government after the Republican Congress ended its term in 2006....


Without thinking real hard DHS was created in 2001,and Medicare D was passed in 2003.

And even if they did not repeal "the thousands of agencies that democrats had already created up to 1994", congress has the power of the purse over these agencies. I don't recollect that being used.
72 posted on 10/18/2010 12:19:30 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: joe fonebone

Yet for some being a ‘strict Constitutionalist’ means having the right to denounce the Constitution as we have seen from the confederate democrats of the past. Most libertarians today as well would deny people the right to representation on issue after issue as well and claim that they are supporting liberty giving people no defense from pushers, pimps, and other means of corruption that would make them slaves in their own homes.

The conservative position though is not to have the federal government regulate everyone’s lives as you claim but to allow the people to have the right to representation on issues that threaten their liberty such as the issues created by pushers, pimps and other forms of moral deviants that threaten their communities.


73 posted on 10/18/2010 12:29:44 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe you should try reading the entire article.


74 posted on 10/18/2010 12:56:15 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: joe fonebone

“If you want to know where you fall, ask yourself, have I ever said ‘There ought to be a law’?...If you have, then you do not believe in the constitution, and are a form of socialist”

What?!?! Suddenly everyone who believes is such things as laws is a socialist? Which means, I suppose, everyone save absolute anarchists are socialists.


75 posted on 10/18/2010 1:00:43 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: joe fonebone

“I ever said ‘There ought to be a law’?...If you have, then you do not believe in the constitution, and are a form of socialist”

Oh, by the way, I wouldn’t have supposed it needs to be mentioned that there are state and local governments, as well as enumerated powers of the federal government, all of which can birth laws in accordance with the Constitution. But you proved me wrong, and apparently some people do need reminding.


76 posted on 10/18/2010 1:05:15 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Lurker; Responsibility2nd

That poster would be Responsibility2nd. Personally, it’s not his business, and I’m not even going to tell him what I do in my bedroom.


77 posted on 10/18/2010 6:18:30 PM PDT by Melas
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To: TheBigIf

You’re not......smart, are you.


78 posted on 10/18/2010 6:31:58 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Melas; Lurker

Personally, it’s not his business, and I’m not even going to tell him what I do in my bedroom.

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If you’re not engaging in illicit perverted sex, then you have nothing to worry about. But if you are, or even if perverted sex is of no concern to you, then you are part of the problem, not the solution.


79 posted on 10/18/2010 6:46:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thanks for your input Mrs. Kravitz. Now please, stick your face in my bedroom window so I have legal cause to ventilate your skull.


80 posted on 10/18/2010 6:49:35 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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