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'Obama Has Turned Out to Be an Utter Disaster'
Der Spiegel (Germany) ^ | October 19, 2010

Posted on 10/20/2010 12:00:55 PM PDT by Schnucki

Karl Rove was one of President George W. Bush's closest advisers. SPIEGEL spoke with the political analyst about the widespread anger against Barack Obama and the prospects of Tea Party success in the coming midterm elections.

SPIEGEL: In the approaching midterm elections, the Republican Party is putting forward several unusually radical candidates, some of whom are not even "qualified to be a dog catcher," as one Republican said. What has happened with your party?

Rove: That's nothing unusual. In campaigns from both parties, people get nominated who are not typical, particularly in times of rapid change. For example, the Democrats in 1974, at the height of the Vietnam War, had a lot of very kooky candidates that they nominated.

SPIEGEL: Still, it's hard to imagine a major European party featuring a candidate like Christine O'Donnell, the Republican candidate in Delaware. She was forced to admit that she has experimented with witchcraft.

Rove: I know enough about European politics to know you've got a lot of crazy people who make their way onto the ballot.

SPIEGEL: You don't want to admit that O'Donnell isn't exactly a candidate that the Republicans can be proud of?

Rove: In Europe and the United States, you've got different systems to select candidates, and no system is perfect. In Germany you have a parliamentary system in which political parties weed out people. And the fact of the matter is that in Germany, on both sides of the aisle, particularly on the Social Democratic side, you have seen lousy leadership of the political parties that have allowed subpar candidates to emerge through the parliamentary system.

SPIEGEL: In what way?

Rove: You have had candidates that the country rejected in a pretty profound way. Our primary system prevents this from happening as often.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: derspiegel; karlrove; obama; odonnell; rove; spiegel; tokyorove
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To: ilgipper

O’Donnell is antithesis to a one world government requiring the fall of America to socialism.

Of course O’Donnell will be malaigned. It is expected.

...and more telling that that is Europe’s interest in our politics.

I have to be honest here. I don’t give a rats ass about EU politics, but they sure care about ours don’t they.


21 posted on 10/20/2010 12:12:41 PM PDT by Eddie01 (On my best day I'm barely average, but that's ok with me.)
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To: Schnucki
Rove us toast. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Huffington and goes rabid liberal down the line.

The other interesting thing is how people who want less government, accountability and fiscal sanity are being called RADICAL.

Mind you Germany is overrun now with unions and Muslim radicals, so calling our normal thinking radical might be in fact radical to them these days.

22 posted on 10/20/2010 12:13:22 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Schnucki

Rove who?


23 posted on 10/20/2010 12:14:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Schnucki
SPIEGEL: In the approaching midterm elections, the Republican Party is putting forward several unusually radical candidates, some of whom are not even "qualified to be a dog catcher," as one Republican said. What has happened with your party?

Rove: That's nothing unusual.

Notice how Rove accepts that insane, socialist assertion in its entirety without the slightest argument?

What a traitor.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

24 posted on 10/20/2010 12:15:51 PM PDT by The Comedian (Don't run. You'll just die tired.)
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To: ozzymandus
a former employee of your Gestapo?

Now, now! He was not an employee. He was more of an at-will independent contrator with an "incentive for production" clause in his contract. His contract lasted until some 800,000 Hungarian Jews had been massacred.

But as for employee, color me skeptical. Show me the paystub!! (/sarc)

25 posted on 10/20/2010 12:16:16 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: A CA Guy

Rove: “If you look underneath the surface of the Tea Party movement, on the other hand, you will find that it is not sophisticated. It’s not like these people have read the economist Friedrich August von Hayek.”

OK. Show of hands. How many Freepers have read Hayek?

Rove is a moron if he 1. really believes that and 2. if he didn’t think any of use would see that quote.


26 posted on 10/20/2010 12:19:28 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

The Germans are the last who should be beating us up over
kook candidates. I read about a former chancellor elected in 1933 who out-kooked anyone who has ever stood for office here in the US.


27 posted on 10/20/2010 12:19:34 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Schnucki

...

SPIEGEL: Europeans see Obama as a middle of the road Democrat and don’t understand the unending criticism.

Rove: He probably is a middle of the road social democrat, but remember America does not have a history of social democracy. We have been a country in which even the Democrats have been to the right of the left in Europe, and that’s one of our strengths. A lot of people call him a socialist. I don’t. He is a social democrat, though. He is somebody who says, “Okay, the state will regulate, the state will dictate. We will take an ever larger share of the GDP into the hands of government, and we will dictate to the private sector, but maintain ownership in private hands, subject to the regulatory state.”

SPIEGEL: But is he so different from other Democratic presidents? Take Lyndon B. Johnson. He introduced Medicare.

Rove: Even LBJ in Medicare insisted upon a robust private role. Obama is culturally and philosophically to the left of Johnson.

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They aren’t getting it. Obama is way to the LEFT of them. Obama is a MARXIST. They still want to see Obama as a European socialist which he is NOT.


28 posted on 10/20/2010 12:22:47 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Schnucki

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2611216/posts

What’s with all the Der Spiegel articles about MAGIC (Obama good) and Witchcraft (O’Donnell bad)???

Flagrant double standard...but they ignore the difference.

Obama’s messianic BS is recent - Christine’s was teenage teasing.


29 posted on 10/20/2010 12:22:54 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: The Comedian
Rove should have asked Der SPIEGEL if they ever did an in depth study of some of the members in the Black Congressional Caucus? Let's look at the democrat mental giants, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, John Conyers etc. I'll take O'Donnell any day over those clowns
30 posted on 10/20/2010 12:27:33 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Schnucki

Seems like many of the comments were made before reading the interview.


31 posted on 10/20/2010 12:28:39 PM PDT by tgdunbar
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To: Lurker

“Rove is dead to me.”

For the longest time, against flak from all sides, I supported Rove. I held him in high regard. I WAS WRONG.

Suddenly, Rove is dead to me too. He needs to be treated with disgust at every turn. He needs to be treated like the poison he has become.

The little man is going to fall apart after this election.... the other side hates him and we don’t want him.

Again, “Rove is dead to me.”


32 posted on 10/20/2010 12:31:45 PM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: ozzymandus

Screw you, Spiegel. O’Donnell wasn’t “forced” to admit anything. How about doing a piece on George Soros, a former employee of your Gestapo?

Yeah.

Maybe they could turn up some interesting info ...


33 posted on 10/20/2010 12:32:08 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Schnucki

Looks like KARL wants to keep getting invited to the beltway cocktail parties.


34 posted on 10/20/2010 12:32:35 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Schnucki
...some of whom are not even "qualified to be a dog catcher," as one Republican said.

As Rhode Island's Roger Sherman wrote during the Constitutional Convention of 1787:

"Representatives ought to return home and mix with the people. By remaining at the seat of government, they would acquire the habits of the place, which might differ from those of their constituents."

We need some good dog catchers in Washington.

35 posted on 10/20/2010 12:32:44 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Schnucki

Rove: I know enough about European politics to know you’ve got a lot of crazy people who make their way onto the ballot.

I’m glad Rove was able to deliver that well-deserved smack down


36 posted on 10/20/2010 12:38:43 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Schnucki

Der Spiegel is horrible left-wing and anti-American. I’m surprised they published all of Rove’s comments. He took the reporter to the cleaners.


37 posted on 10/20/2010 12:39:32 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Schnucki

A Christine win would blow the smear brigade away.


38 posted on 10/20/2010 12:40:37 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Like Adolf Hitler.


39 posted on 10/20/2010 12:41:46 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: nmh
A lot of people call him a socialist. I don't. He is a social democrat, though. He is somebody who says, "Okay, the state will regulate, the state will dictate. We will take an ever larger share of the GDP into the hands of government, and we will dictate to the private sector, but maintain ownership in private hands, subject to the regulatory state.

Oh, good. He's only a fascist. Here I was worried he might be a socialist. Oh and that "larger share of the GDP into the hands of government" thing. If you're talking about the auto industry and the banking industry being partially owned by the government, that's socialism. Then again, I'm not very sophisticated. FUKR. Hey, I kind of like how that turns out.

40 posted on 10/20/2010 12:43:06 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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