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Kalifornia lost cause
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Posted on 11/03/2010 6:13:01 AM PDT by kgrif_Salinas

While the country made a sharp turn to the right, giving the GOP the House in a landslide, CA has moved MORE to the LEFT, if thats possible. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown as the next Gov, with a Dem Assembly, AND Prop 25 passed, which only requires a simple majority to pass a budget. CA is doomed, and will soon fall into the Pacific. I predict CA bankruptcy before 2012. Truly a land of fruits and nuts.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: brown; california; californiaisdone; left; penisons; prop25; unfundedpenisons
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To: bboop

>>What does it benefit the country if we all move to where it is ‘safe’ and there are more conservatives in those places?

Maybe move to someplace where it is 52-48 one way or another? Around here, I think one state is possible to help sway (NH), but otherwise it would be places like NV or CO where the influx of kooky kaliflower people changed the local dynamcis (*not* FR Californians).

I agree moving to a safe place would be a refreshing change, but ultimately not that helpful on a national scale.


161 posted on 11/03/2010 8:49:04 AM PDT by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: bboop

That is inspiring! Just maybe the left wing loons that won in CA will embarass themselves and turn off voters for the Dems. It seems to have awakened the masses in the rest of the country after total Dem control in DC. You and yours can be there to pick up the pieces.


162 posted on 11/03/2010 8:53:49 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: bboop

Sorry to say, the CA crowd has already moved to and ruined Nevada and (my home) Colorado. Please stay in CA and live with your choices, don’t spread them elsewhere.


163 posted on 11/03/2010 9:03:55 AM PDT by Casual
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To: mbs6
Bingo. I've lived in CA and followed CA politics closely for most all of my life and I can confirm this is true. It will take a disaster (financial or otherwise) of cataclysmic proportions for Californians to wake up. Fifty years of public education, media which walk in liberal lockstep, and uncontrolled immigration have produced a state full of dependent, uninformed weaklings. My fellow Californians do indeed believe in a free lunch. They pretty much believe that money grows on trees. They also believe that the rich are holding out on the rest of us, and that if we seize their money and distribute it to the rest of us, we will all be made rich as well.
The truth is that the producers in our state have been enslaved by the consumers.


Yes an excellent analysis. I don't disagree with a word of it. But the situation is so bad because the types who vote for Brown, Boxer, or the like simply won't change!

The typical California voter isn't much different from the Venezuelan who votes for Hugo Chavez.
164 posted on 11/03/2010 9:28:43 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: bboop

“YOU DO NOT VOTE IN CALIFORNIA? That is so lame. And destructive. Then you have no right to complain”

You are right, that’s why I said it’s a lost cause and I will be leaving this god forsaken state soon. I’ll take my money, my expertise, and my vote to a state that actually has some hope.


165 posted on 11/03/2010 9:29:12 AM PDT by Wee-Weed Up
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To: Casual

You know, it is the California LIBERALS who are doing that, not just the Californians. If you could specify the slander, it would be most appreciated. It is binary here, just as in Colorado and other places. Good people win sometimes, many times idiots do.

Maybe you could set up a border-check with a little test to see if movers-inners are conservative to hang with you. And Salazar. And Hickenlooper.


166 posted on 11/03/2010 12:11:08 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: vladimir998

I’m still waiting to hear about the downside. /s

Here it is:

The rest of the nation will pick up the tab for the states unfunded pension and aid to illegals.

With 55 Electorals both parties will cover any and all debts the left incurs here.


167 posted on 11/03/2010 12:41:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: bboop


~2/5 of Boxers votes came from one area. Los Angeles.

Here in California's Central Valley we are strong conservatives. Andy Vidak (R) looks be taking the 20th Congressional District. The 21st(D.Nunes) and 22nd (K.McCarthy) Districts went unopposed with incumbent Republicans.
168 posted on 11/03/2010 1:12:04 PM PDT by ResearchMonkey (commie goo every where.)
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To: ResearchMonkey

Yes, you in the Central Valley are our saving grace here in California. The coastal strip is really bad. We are a bit east of downtown LA — the farther east you go, the more conservative it gets. We did get a Tea Party/conservative Assemblyman in our district for Sacto.


169 posted on 11/03/2010 1:23:36 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

“The coastal strip is really bad.”

Look at San Diego, Orange, Ventura and San Luis Opispo counties, on the coastal stri.

Voted GOP, and have done son historically. That is many miles of beautuful real estate, and right thinking people.


170 posted on 11/03/2010 1:28:43 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Yeah. No Bailouts....in California terminology (or for those in Rio Frisco)....the rest of the states feel it is their moral duty to not be enablers and are therefore enacting tough love. (I think maybe they will understand psychobabble easier than the word “no”?)


171 posted on 11/03/2010 1:53:20 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed, what have you just done?)
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To: Anima Mundi

well said...


172 posted on 11/03/2010 4:02:30 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: mbs6
I would pretty much have to surrender all the hard work I've done for my business and start my professional life anew in order to leave.

There are alternatives to explore. My sole proprietorship currently travels to two other states and does business there on what basically are short road trips. Can legally do business in two other states. This year I had more sales in one state in one day as sales to California residents in the last quarter. And my business is based here in California. You may be forced to leave just due to slowing business. No way will the economy pick up in Kalifornia. Home values however are going to continue to collapse. Some are just probably walking away.

173 posted on 11/03/2010 6:00:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: NoLibZone
With 55 Electorals both parties will cover any and all debts the left incurs here.

Republicans will never win those 55 electorial votes. No reason for them to drop a dime on the Corrupt Golden Bear. The entire country was anti-Obama and they still could not win with RINO's in this state. Kalifornia is dominated by the sanctuary cities of Los Angeles and San Franciso. There will be some house seats up for grabs, but nothing else here for the GOP in Mexifornia.

174 posted on 11/03/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Wee-Weed Up
I’ll take my money, my expertise, and my vote to a state that actually has some hope.

Remind me of a big exchange that occurred on the old Internet News groups. Back before the world wide web got graphic. A poster said he was tired of the state giving out all the freebies and he was leaving. Saw the state of California going down hill. That was back in the early 1990's. Of course the liberals posted good bye and good riddance. He then stated that his whole family was moving to Utah and taking three experienced top end programmers with them. That is basically what is happening in Kalifornia. All the talented people are leaving.

175 posted on 11/03/2010 6:14:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Wee-Weed Up

I vote in EVERY California election because it is my civic duty to do so, just as jury duty is. If you believe in rights, then you know there are no rights without responsibilities. I know I am going to lose most every vote I make in California but I vote because if I don’t, then I don’t deserve the right.

Traffic and time is a pure BS response. Ever hear of permanent absentee. I have voted from home for 12 years with my absentee ballot, doing research on the internet.

Yes, I lose but I still do my duty.

I held my nose and voted for that idiot RINO Whitman, and I lost.

I held my nose and voted for FioRINO, and I lost.

I lost on Prop 25. I lost on Prop 23.

Thanks for nothing. I have to wonder, if all of the non-voting CA conservatives voted instead of acting like you, maybe — just MAYBE — we would win some of these closer votes.

In 8 years I retire and flee to Virginia, taking my money and votes with me. In the meantime, I am fighting the hopeless cause, but still fighting. You are no help at all. Thanks for nothing.

Whitman and Fiorino lost as much because “principled conservatives” voted for 3rd party candidates as any other reason.


176 posted on 11/03/2010 7:14:29 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your logic defies history. California transplants have turned conservative cities very liberal. These include Seattle, Portland and Denver at the very least. Believe me, these were all quite Conservative cities before they were flooded with anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay, environmental crusading, tax and spend California expatriates. That is a documented fact. Your opinion flies in the face of those facts.


177 posted on 11/03/2010 7:22:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your logic defies history. California transplants have turned conservative cities very liberal. These include Seattle, Portland and Denver at the very least. Believe me, these were all quite Conservative cities before they were flooded with anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay, environmental crusading, tax and spend California expatriates. That is a documented fact. Your opinion flies in the face of those facts.


178 posted on 11/03/2010 7:23:06 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever! (I'm still working.))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your logic defies history. California transplants have turned conservative cities very liberal. These include Seattle, Portland and Denver at the very least. Believe me, these were all quite Conservative cities before they were flooded with anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay, environmental crusading, tax and spend California expatriates. That is a documented fact. Your opinion flies in the face of those facts.


179 posted on 11/03/2010 7:23:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever! (I'm still working.)
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To: wolfman23601

The Gray Davis recall was a mistake. Arnold would not have make it through a primary election.


180 posted on 11/03/2010 7:36:43 PM PDT by Poincare
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