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Law enforcement officer left loaded gun magazine on plane
CNN ^ | 11/24/2010 | CNN

Posted on 11/24/2010 2:32:47 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

(CNN) -- A federal law enforcement officer mistakenly left a loaded gun magazine that was found Tuesday on a Southwest Airlines plane, officials said.

The discovery was made after the flight from Burbank, California, to Phoenix, Arizona, landed, a member of a CNN crew aboard the plane said. The head of the Transportation Security Administration said the unnamed law officer will be given remedial training.

"It belonged to a member of federal law enforcement," John Pistole said of the magazine, adding it was not believed to belong to a federal air marshal.

"The full magazine was found in a back seat pocket," a TSA official told CNN. "We believe it was left by a law enforcement officer on a flight that originated in San Jose (California) and landed in Burbank. The officer was not an air marshal and we are trying to establish contact with the agent."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 11/24/2010 2:32:54 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Remember boys and girl... only our .gov overlords are smart enough, trained enough and safe enough to carry a gun...


2 posted on 11/24/2010 2:34:22 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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From the Article

"He said that after the plane had landed, a child behind them, who had been seated on his mother's lap, was crawling across the other seats on the row toward the window when his foot knocked something onto the floor. A flight attendant picked it up, he said, and he could see it was a gun magazine."

I am skeptical about this. Don't flight attendant normally check pockets for things left by passengers? it sounds like someone(from CNN) is embellishing this by introducing a child in the story. Anyway, I have never heard of anyone (child or adult) being hurt from a loaded magazine.

I once left a calculator on a plane and was able to retrieve it because the flight attendant found it in a seat pocket and brought it to the lost and found at the airport terminal. I have actually watched flight crew members check pockets on a flight I was boarding for items left by the folks who exited the plane.

3 posted on 11/24/2010 2:50:07 AM PST by wmileo
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Un-effing-believable...


4 posted on 11/24/2010 2:53:41 AM PST by papertyger
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I bet they called the bomb disposal squad, took cover outside the aircraft and soiled their undies.

Of course the officer that lost it should be reprimanded, somebody could have dropped it on their foot and may be crippled for life.


5 posted on 11/24/2010 2:56:41 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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“The head of the Transportation Security Administration said the unnamed law officer will be given remedial training.”

“The officer was not an air marshal and we are trying to establish contact with the agent.”

OK, which is it? and what in the hell is remedial training?


6 posted on 11/24/2010 3:00:38 AM PST by Artie
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It means he will get the third degree from any and all of his associates, will have to perform a Firearms Safety Course both written and in action, and then he will probably be on probation.Hopefully he will find a better retention pouch for his spares as well.

Mistakes happen, personally I think its not a big issue except that it was on a plane.


7 posted on 11/24/2010 3:10:04 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Artie
“The officer was not an air marshal and we are trying to establish contact with the agent.”

State and local law enforcement officers in the line of duty and all federal law enforcement agents are allowed to be armed on commercial flights. It's a great deal for them. When they arrive at the airport, they get met at the terminal by representatives of whatever agency is responsible for policing the airport. They are then walked past security and proceed directly to their gate. They pre-board the plane, meet the flight and cabin crew, and are seated. if they're not flying armed, then they are expected to go the TSA route. Which option would you choose?

They are not expected to leave loaded magazines behind though... whoever did this will definitely catch hell for drawing negative attention to the sweet deal they have.
8 posted on 11/24/2010 3:26:49 AM PST by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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A federal law enforcement officer mistakenly left a loaded gun magazine that was found Tuesday on a Southwest Airlines plane, officials said.

Looking at this from an other angle, what happens if one of these state and local cops gets co-opted by the jihadists? Say one has a gambling problem and amasses debts. A Moslem buys the juice and then deals to get the compromised cop to take articles on board.

Homeland Security should look into this. There are plenty of examples where cops are led astray and the safety of our airplanes is too important to allow every single cop from every juristiction unimpeded access to airplanes.

9 posted on 11/24/2010 3:42:37 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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I have lost an ink pen, even my car keys, but never a gun.

I know by feel if my wallet is in my pocket.

Who are these “goobers” that are hired to protect and serve?


10 posted on 11/24/2010 3:53:49 AM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

State and local officers need to be flying at the request of their agency. In other words, it has to be work related, and it will require their superiors to sign off on their trip.


11 posted on 11/24/2010 3:55:27 AM PST by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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My god! Someone might have tried to swallow it and choked!


12 posted on 11/24/2010 4:00:09 AM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: Eye of Unk

It sounds like a wannabe cop who really shouldn’t be a cop. This is the problem today across the nation.


13 posted on 11/24/2010 4:08:33 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: msg-84

That is reassuring? You suggest the number of official trips would be limited. But Homeland Security should look into the possibility that cops can and will be co-opted by the jihadists. These bad guys LOOK for exceptions to exploit. They don’t respect law enforcement and quite frankly, the Moslems would HAVE to be trying to identify cops to use. It’s Terrorism with a capital T.


14 posted on 11/24/2010 4:25:08 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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But Homeland Security should look into the possibility that cops can and will be co-opted by the jihadists.

I disagree. Instead of treating people like convicts because they purchased an airline ticket or as you now suggest, profiling sworn law enforcement personnel, maybe they should be profiling Islamic persons with ties to anti-American causes. But I guess that's a job for another administration as the current Secretary of Homeland Security thinks US military veterans and Tea Party activist pose the most significant threat to her and her party and thus America.
15 posted on 11/24/2010 4:55:38 AM PST by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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That's where we differ. I do not put State and Local police in the same category as US military veterans or TEA Party members.

Police are unionized state personnel and will uphold and protect the power of the state over the citizenry. Enforcement and Intelligence gathering. They are not elected as the county Sheriff's departments are elected.

US military? Volunteer in service to the country. TEA Party? Volunteer in service to the community.

But getting back to allowing the police onto the planes without screening, would you not agree the jihadists would be looking for terrorist opportunities? And that "trusted" (or "sworn" as you state) public employees would make a high-impact terrorist statement? That's my point. And for that, these people should be subjected to MORE scrutiny rather than less.

Another option is profiling as you suggest (and I support) and the third option is blaming all this TSA nonsense where it belongs: on the Moslems. Ever since Yasser Arafat's group starting hijacking planes in the 1970's, it's been MOSLEMS who have a particular affinity with the flying craft.

16 posted on 11/24/2010 5:15:23 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I remember a few years ago when over in England someone found a .22 bullet. The press literally treated it like it was a freakin WMD ready to kill everyone. Never miss a chance to blow things way out of proportion.


17 posted on 11/24/2010 5:19:26 AM PST by gop4lyf ("Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.")
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Well, one point to CNN for getting the terminology correct.


18 posted on 11/24/2010 5:26:58 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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What happens if one of these cops IS a muslim, doesn’t hide it, then carries a gun onto a plane.
Remember Ft. Hood anyone?


19 posted on 11/24/2010 5:36:56 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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Wouldn’t the title better be: “government agent makes gift to random citizen of ammunition and firearm accessory”?


20 posted on 11/24/2010 6:27:14 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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>> one point to CNN for getting the terminology correct <<

Yep, I guess if they’d called the thing a “clip,” then by now this thread would have had at least a hundred posts!


21 posted on 11/24/2010 6:56:05 AM PST by Hawthorn
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Even if an “Only One” left that magazine on a plane, loaded magazines by themselves are harmless. Oh, they’ll scare a hoplophobic liberal into peeing their pants, but without a barrel and a striker, they are actually LESS dangerous and more stable than unlit Black Cat firecrackers.


22 posted on 11/24/2010 8:44:35 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Hawthorn

Yes, but they have to subtract 10 points for saying it had bullets in it. Thus total score of -9.

Magazines hold cartridges, no?


23 posted on 11/24/2010 10:00:55 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: hadaclueonce

Tip - carry you wallet in a front pocket


24 posted on 11/24/2010 10:05:23 AM PST by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: FlyingEagle

>> Magazines hold cartridges, no? <<

Well, yeah, but strictly speaking, the cartridges almost surely had bullets still in them — so maybe we only need to subtract five points.


25 posted on 11/24/2010 10:35:03 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Once cannot train away stupid.


26 posted on 11/24/2010 10:41:18 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Job needed. Anything! Philly area.)
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Once cannot train away stupid.


27 posted on 11/24/2010 10:41:31 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Job needed. Anything! Philly area.)
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Once cannot train away stupid.


28 posted on 11/24/2010 10:41:41 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Job needed. Anything! Philly area.)
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Once cannot train away stupid.


29 posted on 11/24/2010 10:41:48 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Job needed. Anything! Philly area.)
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To: Hawthorn

Yesterday Tucson KGUN TV’s web site reported it as a “clip” for the cop’s “service revolver”.


30 posted on 11/24/2010 11:19:04 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

So, with all of the enhanced security, this guy got through with a loaded magazine?


31 posted on 11/24/2010 11:36:51 AM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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The officer followed the proper protocols to get the gun on the plane.

Note to self...read the friggin story before posting!

32 posted on 11/24/2010 11:39:16 AM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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It would be interesting to know if the agent lost the magazine from the weapon he was carrying, or if this was a spare magazine. With a good holster, the chances of accidentally pushing the magazine release would be very minimal, so I’m guessing this was a spare magazine. I’d be interested in hearing how most people that have a concealed carry license keep a spare magazine on their person.


33 posted on 12/06/2010 8:49:12 AM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
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