The Dangerous Mythology of Immigration

American Thinker ^ | November 28, 2010 | Frank Burke

[Once-Ler]

It doesn't matter that the MSM won't acknowlege it - the recent behavior of our political leaders in general is testament enough to it.

In 2010 I saw the voters replaced Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker, but reelected illegal loving Harry Reid. I saw the Tea Party replace a lot of rats after the rats took over healthcare, the automotive industry, and the banks. You see an anti-illegal wave because the rats have not cramming the Dream act through a lame duck session yet. Is that what you are saying? What "recent behavior?"

[skeeter]

I have no desire to argue with you on your terms. If you cannot see the trends in public opinion with all of the evidence available, on the local and federal levels & across the nation, its because you do not WISH to.

[Once-Ler]

You say there is evidence of changing attitudes about illegal immigration, yet you can't articulate any. I am most definately trying to see it. I'm begging you to clarify. I've given you reasons why I think illegal immigration is at the bottom of the list of important issues to voters. Please please...give me something. I gave you plenty of chances and even begged you to tell me who the anti-illegal leadership is. You didn't even try.

[skeeter]

I can sense your sincerity, so I'm tempted to point to the 20 or 25 states currently considering SB1070 type legislation.

But I won't, cause its just one of those things you either see, or you don't.

[Once-Ler]

I can sense your sincerity, so I'm tempted to point to the 20 or 25 states currently considering SB1070 type legislation.

considering...powerful argument.

[skeeter]

Thus encouraged, I offer you this.

[Once-Ler]

for real? The very first poll question says 60% of Americans think the Dream act is important, but it doesn't say if they are for it or against it.

There are a lot of polls here and most of them show little change of opinion since 2005 when the Congress failed to pass immigration reform and now. The numbers look the same. Is this the poll you mean?

"Would you favor or oppose each of the following proposals? . . ." "Creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the United States for a number of years to stay here and apply to legally remain in this country permanently if they had a job and paid back taxes"

..................Favor Oppose Unsure
7/16-21/10... 81... 19...... -
5/21-23/10... 80... 19...... 1

Did you even read the polls? Where is the evidence of a change in public opinion?

FAIL

[skeeter]

I'm shocked by your reaction.

Shocked!

[Once-Ler]

I am not shocked that you still offered nothing of substance to back up your opinion. So I am going to come up with my own ugly reasons why you believe what you believe.

[skeeter]

It is still a non-issue to the majority of voters.

And you proved your's? LOL.

No matter, I have my own ideas regarding the motives for your apparent obtuseness. And they ain't pretty either.

[skeeter]

I believe I was just called a racist.

Makes me pine for the old Clown Posse days.

[dixiechick2000]

LOL! Being called “racist” is the last resort of cowards. The Posse was good at that. ;o)

Once-Ler, as I said we will see what happens with the DREAM Act.

It hasn’t been brought up before because they didn’t have the votes.

Will they have them now...in a lame duck congress?

[Once-Ler]

No matter, I have my own ideas regarding the motives for your apparent obtuseness. And they ain't pretty either.

Great then we both dislike each other a little more, and Obama divides the opposition as planned.

[skeeter]

Speak for yourself, I neither like you nor dislike you.

However, I do dislike your "debate" tactics.

[skeeter]

Will they have them now...in a lame duck congress?

Prima facie evidence of public opinion regarding the issue to any reasonable person.

One would think.

[wardaddy]

pleasant thing is they have a fraction of the power here they once had...just makes things more fun

[dixiechick2000]

Yep, skeeter...one would think so.

I was especially pleased with the Republican Senators today when they signed the letter for all practical purposes stating that the ‘rats could get hosed. lol

You’re right, wardaddy...they have much less power than they are willing to believe.

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