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South Korea prepares emergency shelters
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Posted on 11/30/2010 5:50:44 AM PST by jhpigott

Associated Press, Updated: November 30, 2010 16:08 IST

Seoul, South Korea: Last week's deadly attack on Yeonpyeong island has escalated military and diplomatic tensions on the Korean Peninsula, and for some in the South Korean capital, Seoul, there is an increasing fear of North Korean retaliation.

Hence, evacuation centres were being prepared in the city on Monday, amidst mounting tensions.

There are 3919 emergency shelters across Seoul - many are housed in subway stations or underground carparks.

According to local officials, evacuation shelters can be easily reached by everyone within five minutes and can accommodate more than 20 million people.

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1 posted on 11/30/2010 5:50:47 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

If NK decides to act, they will start that artillery barrage against Seoul.

I hope the Phalanx and other anti-missile systems are active and on alert 24/7 on all of our ships in that region.


2 posted on 11/30/2010 5:55:06 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: justa-hairyape; AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster; maquiladora

ping


3 posted on 11/30/2010 5:57:40 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

It’s way past time that someone grew a set and put NK out of business. IMO, it’s not going to happen with the SK’s.


4 posted on 11/30/2010 6:00:41 AM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: jhpigott

5 posted on 11/30/2010 6:05:39 AM PST by mirkwood (Palin-Bolton 2012)
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To: F15Eagle

I am beginning to think that all arty and other shells will be lobbed around Seoul, troops will encircle Seoul immediately after complete saturation.

The PRNK wants Seoul completely intact.

The only defense the South has is to state that should the PRNK overtake Seoul a tactical nuclear weapon will be detonated large enough to completely destroy all buildings, warehouses and manufacturing.

And especially the food.


6 posted on 11/30/2010 6:06:14 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: jhpigott

Evacuation in place? This is an outstanding way to get 20 million civilians killed. What they should be doing is evacuating Seoul now, and sending the civilians south away from the DMZ.

This doesn’t end well.


7 posted on 11/30/2010 6:08:38 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: Eye of Unk

SK threatening to nuke Seoul would make the Kims laugh themselves to sleep. Why not threaten to nuke Pyongyang instead?


8 posted on 11/30/2010 6:12:30 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Quix; Whenifhow; houeto; null and void; Squantos; xrmusn; bronxville; Screaming_Gerbil; ...
Clinton-legacy ping.

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9 posted on 11/30/2010 6:22:28 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: GeronL

The North may have been shielded from the rest of civilization to an unheard of degree, but assuming they are aware of McDonalds on every streetcorner, supermarkets overflowing with fresh food, fish and vegetables, opulence that is common to the south like TV free speech, better housing, automobiles and such and with all that in mind can one logically be lead to believe that the Norks want it destroyed?

A society falling apart from its isolation, eating tree bark, forced conscription, total state control of their lives from birth. But give them a glimpse of whats past their border and I think they would rather defect in mass than be cannon fodder.

By sending out the message that what they crave, what will fulfill their dreams, their ambitions and hope for a free society that will be utterly destroyed will indeed cause disruption in the ranks.


10 posted on 11/30/2010 6:32:57 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: jhpigott
Those South Koreans are better prepared then we are. Another interesting news bulletin link below. We shall see if anything happens during day 4. The last day of the exercise. Later.

Australia’s Rudd Says North Korea ‘Radically Misread’ Relations

11 posted on 11/30/2010 7:03:21 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Oops. Just noticed that was Bloomberg Business Week. Link only.
12 posted on 11/30/2010 7:05:01 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: alarm rider

SK should be the one to do it as they hve a vested interest. We, at the most, should only play a back up and supply role.


13 posted on 11/30/2010 7:14:12 AM PST by sport
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To: Eye of Unk

Most people in NK only know what their government tells them and they probably know nothing of all that


14 posted on 11/30/2010 7:24:47 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: F15Eagle

I want the Sorkies to take care of business. I don’t think they need our protection. I don’t mind helping, but I want to see THEM handle their affairs. From everything I’ve heard, they are tough, well-trained, VICIOUS fighters. I know they don’t want to have to do it. To the rest of the world this is an affair between two countries, but to them I imagine it seems more like a civil war, even after all these years.


15 posted on 11/30/2010 7:36:49 AM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: sport
Agreed that SK should be in front, but I am not sure that they can comfortably field what would be needed to finally defeat NK. A holding battle, retaliation, probably. All out war without massive US/Australian/British help, probably not.

I doubt with the current resident in the WH that the will exist to do much more than “diplomacy”.

Now if someone is better informed or has more current information or opinions, I would very much like to hear them.

16 posted on 11/30/2010 7:39:44 AM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: alarm rider

S. Korea has shelters for 20 million?

How many shelters does your town have?

If Homeland S. spots an Iranian missile inbound
for Boston, with impact in 25 minutes, and
you tell the populace—what can they do?

(so much for “preparedness”...)


17 posted on 11/30/2010 7:54:09 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight

I doubt that even with nutty NK knife rattling, they really don’t want to lob a nuke at SK.

What they want is stuff and all this is blackmail.

If SK gets enough of this and does not cave, then it might be a civil war.


18 posted on 11/30/2010 8:02:53 AM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: CondorFlight
If Homeland S. spots an Iranian missile inbound for Boston, with impact in 25 minutes, and you tell the populace—what can they do?

In Texas, we'll start a BBQ and put some Shiner Boch on ice.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 11/30/2010 8:07:31 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: CondorFlight

Bow to the Muslims? Apologize for being infidels?

You have a great point.


20 posted on 11/30/2010 8:08:09 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: jhpigott

Um...It may seem a minor point, but...

North Korea attacks South Korea and then “there is an increasing fear of North Korean retaliation”?

REALLY?

What is South Korea supposed to have done to deserve ‘retaliation’?

The North ATTACKED the South.

There should be fears of ADDITIONAL UNPROVOKED ATTACKS !!!


21 posted on 11/30/2010 8:28:37 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: F15Eagle

Those North Korean artillery installations must be tactical nuked NOW!


22 posted on 11/30/2010 8:29:22 AM PST by Aroostook25
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To: mirkwood
Liberals always do more harm to the US and our allies when they are put in power. When will the electorate learn?

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23 posted on 11/30/2010 8:54:00 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: mirkwood

No, it was that woman that Hill! is coming more and more to resemble, Madeleine Albright.


24 posted on 11/30/2010 8:55:20 AM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: jhpigott

Are the SK libs still holding large ‘Yankee go home’ demonstrations like they were a few years ago?

Or do they rather like that the Yanks are still around?


25 posted on 11/30/2010 8:59:39 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Eye of Unk

Umm, the Republic of Korea (South Korea) has one of the largest, most capable militaries in the world. They are well-fed, well-trained, well-equipped and tough as nails.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Korea_Army


26 posted on 11/30/2010 9:07:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: alarm rider

It probably depends to the extent that Russia and China aid and support North Korea. And most of all, the fighting spirit of the South Koreans. They will be fighting for their lives ans asses, so they should be very spirited. Again, it depends whether they bought into the socialist shit that a good portion of voters over here bought into.


27 posted on 11/30/2010 9:14:24 AM PST by sport
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To: jhpigott
"Fear of North Korean retaliation"?
Shouldn't that be "fear of further North Korean provocation"?

28 posted on 11/30/2010 9:22:30 AM PST by Genoa (Put the kettle on!)
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To: sport
I spent a bit of time in SK thanks to Uncle Sam. That was in the early 80’s. From what I remember and saw, the left in SK was mostly about “reunification”. Anyway that was the main topic, that and a very tactile fear of having to fight NK.

I got the impression that the left there thought that in “reunification”, the NK’s would suddenly see the light and everyone would just live happily ever after.

I do not believe that SK has the true will to fight NK unless things get so bad they have to do do, and you can be sure that the left in SK will be in the streets blaming the SK government and not the poor NK commies.

Again, it's been awhile since I have been there, so if someone has current knowledge, I would be interested in your take.

29 posted on 11/30/2010 9:25:26 AM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: The Comedian; tx_eggman

If your Shiner is not already iced, you are unprepared, my friend.


30 posted on 11/30/2010 9:45:55 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: alarm rider

My son was there in the mid 90s and he did/ does not have a high opinion of SKs,period.

My brother was over there when Ford was President. He was schedled to go again in the late 80s. He retired.


31 posted on 11/30/2010 9:59:51 AM PST by sport
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To: SpinnerWebb
If your Shiner is not already iced, you are unprepared, my friend.

I should have specified *extra* Shiner. I expect a huge turnout for the toast.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

32 posted on 11/30/2010 10:17:52 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Aroostook25

>>”Those North Korean artillery installations must be tactical nuked NOW!”

A preemptive strike may not be viable, but they SHOULD have tac nukes in the tubes of 175s, pre-aimed to take out the the massed arty just over the Z from Seoul. Unfortunately, the South has eschewed Atomic Weapons. But just having them, there, and letting the Norks know, could save their Seoul.

They wouldn’t even have to tell their own leftists.


33 posted on 11/30/2010 10:26:35 AM PST by DoorGunner
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To: CondorFlight

“If Homeland S. spots an Iranian missile inbound for Boston, with impact in 25 minutes, and you tell the populace—what can they do?”

Give them 25 min. notice so they can die in the stampede rather than the detonation.


34 posted on 11/30/2010 10:32:28 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: DoorGunner

All I see is a lot of people on the web with the slant of walking away from South Korea.

Let them handle their own problem. They were too weak to end a war and this is the harvest of poisoned fruit.


35 posted on 11/30/2010 10:32:42 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: DoorGunner

Wind today is from the ESE. Using nukes just North of the DMZ will irradiate the northern SK islands and a portion of the NW corner of the country. Much better than if it were a north wind.


36 posted on 11/30/2010 10:41:06 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: jhpigott

I have actually been in one of these shelters. It houses an underground mall and can be reached from the lower levels of the Lotte Hotel. Very extensive shelters. Plenty of clothes and food available.


37 posted on 11/30/2010 11:30:21 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Eye of Unk
The only defense the South has is to state that should the PRNK overtake Seoul a tactical nuclear weapon will be detonated large enough to completely destroy all buildings, warehouses and manufacturing.

A "tactical" nuke would do no such thing - that would take a large strategic nuke.

38 posted on 11/30/2010 12:12:57 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Eye of Unk

The PRNK first stop will be any and all fuel depots in Seol; without them they don’t have 48 hours of fuel for their tanks and trucks.


39 posted on 11/30/2010 12:51:12 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: ichabod1

Amen brother.

ROK Tiger Division has a well-earned rep of a nasty streak in them.


40 posted on 11/30/2010 1:05:44 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: The Comedian

I think the caption to that picture was something like “Screw the limit, Bob”;)


41 posted on 11/30/2010 3:13:09 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I wanted to post specifically about that point of semantics. Clearly “retaliation” is the wrong word.

The definition of retaliate:
re·tal·i·ate (r-tl-t)
v. re·tal·i·at·ed, re·tal·i·at·ing, re·tal·i·ates
v.intr.
To return like for like, especially evil for evil.


42 posted on 11/30/2010 4:05:27 PM PST by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: b4its2late; TigerLikesRooster
Some pretty pissed off people in SEOUL yesterday, I would say:

Hat tip to Dok Rip.

43 posted on 11/30/2010 5:21:34 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Do the "W" memoirs have an advance "sorry" about possible war with N. Korea, due to idiotic policy?)
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To: b4its2late; TigerLikesRooster
Don't forget appeasing RINOS under appeasing REPUBLICAN administrations, too!

Christopher Hill, (left) sent out on Condi Rice and "W"'s orders, to affix his signature to one of the most ridiculous, unenforceable, if not right DANGEROUS China-brokered phony deals in the history of the Korean Peninsula, the so-called "Six Party Talks" in Beijing, Red China!

We must be brutally, academically honest about this who bipartisan travesty which has been building for 20 years now.


44 posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Do the "W" memoirs have an advance "sorry" about possible war with N. Korea, due to idiotic policy?)
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To: The Comedian; SpinnerWebb
If your Shiner is not already iced, you are unprepared, my friend.

I should have specified *extra* Shiner. I expect a huge turnout for the toast.

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Briskets have been on since this morning ... come on over.

45 posted on 11/30/2010 6:38:53 PM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: tx_eggman
Here, I put a pool liner in my truck bed and filled it up. I'll drive over:


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

46 posted on 11/30/2010 6:59:03 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Love fest!


47 posted on 12/01/2010 9:42:12 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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