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Little Ice Age And Expanding Arctic Ice -“Climate Forecasts Will Have To Be Thrown In The Dustbin”
Notrickszone.com ^ | 14. Dezember 2010 | P Gosselin on

Posted on 12/15/2010 10:45:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The cold now sweeping over Europe and other parts of the globe are due to natural cycles, says German meteorologist Thomas Globig. He points out that the first 2 weeks of December in Britain have been the coldest since the last little ice age 350 years ago, and claims some climate models have criminally under-estimated solar influence on climate and that we ought to expect colder winters, and expanding Arctic ice in the years ahead. 

“Some climate forecasts will have to be thrown in the dustbin.”

All the talk and hype among the clueless masses have been, and still is, about global warming due to human emissions of CO2. Will the temperature rise be 2°C, 4°C or 10°C? Will we be able to avert the climate catastrophe?

Yes, it all sounds like a really bad B-rated movie. But it’s not – it’s all junk science produced by green activists. Ignore it. Dr Benny Peiser here brings our attention to an essay posted at wetter.t-online.de here.

The talk of this essay is not about warming, but of drastic cooling. According to wetter.info:

‘The year 2010 will be the coldest in ten years for Germany,’ says Thomas Globig of the Meteomedia weather service in a discussion with wetter.info.

Now it’s sure: temperatures in Germany this year have averaged 8.1 °C, or 0.2°C below the long-term measured average of 8.3°C.  ‘I’m afraid that by the end of the year, we are going to end up much lower,’ says Globig.”

Us sceptics know that climate goes in cycles. Back in the 60s and 70s Europe got a lot of snow. Then it got milder – due to man-made global warming! – all the government funded scientists opportunistically chimed in. But lo and behold, it’s getting colder again. People have been caught off guard says Globig.

The sun will be decreasing in activity over the coming decades.

Why is it getting cooler?

Globig attributes it to natural cycles: mainly the large-scale changes in the air flow over the Atlantic and fluctuating solar activity. There are Lows near the Azores and Highs in the North Atlantic, which means cold Arctic air is getting pumped down across Europe. “The weather situation has been turned up on its head,” says Globig.

Oh – but this is all due to man’s disruption of the weather, the alarmists will tell you. It’s actually abnormal! Not so, says Globig:

This change in the so-called North Atlantic Oscillation is completely normal - only that they are difficult to forecast in detail.’ With storm Kyrill in 2007, it was the peak of air mass flow from the warmer Atlantic into the European region.

Globig points out:

 Since then, the weather over the Atlantic has gotten calmer.”

Calmer weather over the Atlantic? Time for the climatologists to bring their crystal balls in for a major recalibration. Their crackpot models predicted just the opposite.

The NAO has switched. That means we ought to expect more cold winters in the years ahead. That’s right – forget warming. Ignore all the morons in the mainstream media.

These low temperatures could continue for a few years, maybe decades. Even icier winters can’t be ruled out. ‘This has occurred before in the past, and has to do with natural climate changes,’ says Globig. We could even be at the start of a little ice age, ‘the probability is there.’

It has to do with solar activity, according to wetter-t-online.de:

It has gone past its high point of its 200-year high-phase and will decrease over the coming decades. Around the year 2040/2050, scientists calculate there will be a new so-called solar minimum, that means much less feed-in of solar energy into the Earth’s atmosphere.

And when that happens, it means colder times ahead. And that means colder poles, which means expanding Arctic ice. Like Joe Bastardi, and probaly hundreds, if not thousands, of meteorologists, Globig thinks so too.

‘I find it quite plausible that Arctic ice will expand considerably over the next year,’ says Globig. ‘The influence of solar activity on climate has been criminally under-estimated.’

 ’We will really know what is in store for us in the next five to seven years,’ Globig believes. Indeed one thing appears to be very probable for meteorologists: ‘We will have to throw some climate forecasts into the dustbin.’

Today, I can practically tell who gets their longterm forecasts from whom. I went to a home & garden center today to buy a snow shovel – they were all sold out. The next shipment? At the end of January! How much worse can you get?

Tomorrow I will call the headquarters of this home & garden center to see if I can find out where they are getting their forecasts. I’ll bet you they are getting them from the warmist DWD German Weather Service.
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Update: Let’s throw this in, too! http://www.populartechnology.net/2010/12/1000-references-of-global-cooling.html (h/t Climate Scam)



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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
SunASK
41 posted on 12/15/2010 11:39:12 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge
Dropping this on here:

Borrowed from a poster at Watts Up With That?.

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Try this again
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Here are some websites
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GOES 14 Satellite of North America,tracking the
Storm at 22,000 miles up.

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/

Full Disc/East

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goeseast/overview2/color_lrg/latestfull.jpg
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Appalachians and Great Lakes Snow Conditions & Weather Map
(Change it to where you are!)

http://www.snow-forecast.com/maps/dynamic/appal
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Current Winds/Speeds/Direction
(Again,change it to your local)

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Wind/Current.aspx?location=USMI0545
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North American Radar Stations
U.S. NEXRAD and TDWR Radar Stations

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp

canopfor on December 12, 2010 at 7:50 PM

42 posted on 12/15/2010 11:42:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: FrankR

Thanks....Nice !


43 posted on 12/15/2010 11:42:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Don’t be too quick to guess that we’re entering a new ice age. Here’s the logic.

Think about a greenhouse. A greenhouse is a little warmer than the average temperature of the ambient air. However, temperature fluctuation is moderated. That is, when it is cold outside, a greenhouse will only get cool. When it is hot outside, the greenhouse will only be warm.

The opposite of a greenhouse effect is like what is observed on the surface of the Moon. With no atmosphere, there is no greenhouse effect at all. So when something is in the shade, it becomes intensely cold, but when illuminated by the Sun, it becomes intensely hot—and very quickly. There is no moderation.

The atmospheric blanket that surrounds the Earth is called the thermosphere. Most of our atmosphere is in the thermosphere, but the two are not identical. The thermosphere is the part of our atmosphere that traps, and *moderates* heat.

Just like a greenhouse.

Mysteriously, the size of the thermosphere reduced considerably.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/15/earths-thermosphere-collapses-film-at-11/

“The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009—a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.”

That is, we suddenly lost a LOT of the Earth’s greenhouse effect.

So think about the Moon. With a loss of greenhouse effect, what we notice is the loss of *moderation* in the weather.

In effect, hotter summers and colder winters. Higher highs and lower lows.

This means that it is unlikely that we will quickly move into a roasting or freezing world. Sure, summers will be unusually hot, but it will be balanced with winters that are unusually cold.

That is, of course, if the thermosphere would stay at its radically reduced size. So that is what matters. No guarantees for the thermosphere doing about anything.

Because we don’t really know how it works too well.


44 posted on 12/15/2010 11:43:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL. Seriously, even if all the lefty nutters did an about-face and decided that that we’re in for man-made global cooling instead of warming, some politician would just find a way to use it as another excuse for more regulation (and a money-making scam). Everything is an excuse to enact more regulation, for politicians (and that includes many on the “right”, these days). They wouldn’t have an excuse to get paid if they just did what they’re supposed to-defend the country and protect our borders-and not a single other thing. But oh how wonderful life could be if they just left us the heck ALONE.


45 posted on 12/15/2010 11:43:54 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: NormsRevenge
I think the Express is delivering to the Bay Area:

Click here for the GOES Sat movie

And it is moving south...Yikes!!

46 posted on 12/15/2010 11:47:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It would be hard to believe he (Graham) has not been made aware of the what the green movement wants to accomplish. This whole mess is just that. Has he waded through the issue carefully. Perhaps he has but wants to create jobs.


47 posted on 12/15/2010 11:52:21 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Perhaps it's time for Time to rerun an old article.


48 posted on 12/15/2010 11:53:04 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fractal Trader; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; ...
Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach & Fractal Trader !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

49 posted on 12/15/2010 11:58:18 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: All
Copy below for Full View of current GOES Satellite View.

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http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goeseast/overview2/color_lrg/latestfull.jpg

50 posted on 12/15/2010 12:10:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: meatloaf

Exactly


51 posted on 12/15/2010 12:17:44 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: UCANSEE2; All

If this forecast is accurate, we will need every barrel of oil we can get just to keep warm. Keep working on higher milage cars, PLEASE!!!


52 posted on 12/15/2010 12:20:51 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The cold now sweeping over Europe and other parts of the globe are due to natural cycles, says German meteorologist Thomas Globig

Globig Cooling

53 posted on 12/15/2010 12:30:32 PM PST by mikrofon (vs. Gorebull Smarming)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just remember (what I tell any warmists I encounter) that 110+ years ago there was a scientific consensus about an aether being the medium which makes electromagnetic radiation propagation possible. Many of the truly (at least otherwise) bright scientists of the time subscribed to the aether theory.

And then there was the Michelson-Morley experiment and later Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, and the cardhouse collapsed.

Only back then no one tried to extort hundreds of billions of dollars from the people on account of the aether theory... CONSENSUS IS NOT PROOF.

54 posted on 12/15/2010 12:30:58 PM PST by Moltke ('Tis very strange. - Hamlet)
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To: Charles Henrickson; martin_fierro
The cold now sweeping over Europe and other parts of the globe are due to natural cycles, says German meteorologist Thomas Globig

Ich bin ein Brrrliner

55 posted on 12/15/2010 12:36:19 PM PST by mikrofon (Alles Deutsches)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; SunkenCiv; All

Thank you for a complex and thoughtful comment. People who have not studied science have no idea how complex and intertwined various factors are.

For example I recall seeing several years ago something about East Anglia reporting a slowing(cooling?) of the Gulf Stream. I think this may have been the origin of some of the funny business that went on subsequently of trying to protect the Global Warming hypothesis. On the other hand it could have just as easly been argued that GW was melting the polar ice, causing a reduction in super salty water due to freezing of surface ice, and thus slowing down the North Atlantic Oscillation. Thus one could easily say that GW was causing Gulf Stream cooling.

At any rate, it is all very complex, it needs to be studied with an open mind. Scientists should stop having to justify their funding on the basis of whether their research supports one idea or another. Unfortunately, the need for basic research is seriously undervalued, including by a lot of people here at FR.


56 posted on 12/15/2010 12:36:45 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Ping

Ping


57 posted on 12/15/2010 12:38:13 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Of course, like models that predict global warming without having a full understanding of the effects of things like ocean thermal sinking, the study you cite also does not understand what is going on.

What we do know is that the global average temperature is not trending up at the same rate as the global average concentration of CO2. Which means to me that CO2 does not explain everything either. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

So why won’t scientists admit that they don’t know and that they are going to study things for a few more years before they decide to change the global economic engine?


58 posted on 12/15/2010 12:43:34 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and ex-teacher (ret))
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To: steelyourfaith
From joNova some Humor:

Global Warming — it’s just another joke

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Armstrong and Miller mock the Global Warming thought police as they tell us to ignore our lying eyes, and give us glossy printed pamphlets telling us what we are allowed to think.

The formerly fashionable theory of man-made catastrophe is becoming the regular butt of jokes. Bear in mind that half of the comedic team of Miller and Armstrong is known as an eco-activist (that would be Ben), and the skit isn’t necessarily poking fun at the science but at the militant marketing, and over-the-top dogma.

59 posted on 12/15/2010 1:02:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Funny thing is the news just said it was the warmest year on record in Germany. Right after they reported that they have been having quite the winter.


60 posted on 12/15/2010 1:34:20 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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